*RANT HERE*

[JSHoosier 19,741]

1 minute ago, Josh said:

Wait, this team can't shoot the ball and it's because of the fans?  They don't hustle and it's because of the fans?  They can't rebound, defend the three, play with a high iq...and it's because of the fans?

Interesting take.

You didn't see some IU fans holding Ware back while PU's ogre got on the ground after the ball? I could of swore I saw fans guarding the FTs, has to be why we miss so many.

Kind of like the staff didn't get any guards in the portal, and left a scholarship open to boot, because fans didn’t know who to get.

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16 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

Sure, now he breaks out.  
 

But seriously, how long do you stick with a guy?  Do we stick with Gunn because he might breakout as a junior?

If quite a few shooters break out after they leave, then it could very well be the system they were in and not the player.  At this point it's really only Bates that has broken out after leaving -- Phinissee continued to be bad, Jerome Hunter went to Xavier and they stopped allowing him to shoot from the perimeter, Khristain Lander is an okay shooter against mid level competition.

[Cd71 176]

I think Chris Beard would absolutely kill it here.  He would be loved by the old guard fans and I believe he could bring the recruits as well.  Texas was about to be a monster before his demise there in my opinion.  The guy can coach.  I have no faith though if things go south even more for Woody that the admin would make a hire like that.  

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Just now, Cd71 said:

I think Chris Beard would absolutely kill it here.  He would be loved by the old guard fans and I believe he could bring the recruits as well.  Texas was about to be a monster before his demise there in my opinion.  The guy can coach.  I have no faith though if things go south even more for Woody that the admin would make a hire like that.  

With Beard's off court issues, no chance IU even considers him.

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6 hours ago, Hoosier987 said:

Agreed. It’s part of the system as well…forget Tamar Bates look at Miller Kopp as well. He’s lighting it up in the G league too. 

Huh?  Kopp is shooting 33% from three in the G-league.

[raorIU 306]

54 minutes ago, IU_FanClub said:

Not really sure where else to put this, but am I missing something about the Penn state game on 2/3 that is making it more special than every other home game this year? Group of 5 of us from my fraternity are going down for the game, already got a hotel, but for whatever reason these tickets are not being listed on any site. There are hundreds of tickets listed for like every game except this one that only has 25. Anyone know if there’s something going on that day?

Isn't that the game Assembly Call is doing their live show?

[Golfman25 4,957]

47 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

You keep doing it until you finally get it right.  There is no curse against the program.  The fact is the Indiana administration keeps making abysmal hires.  Mike Davis wasn't even remotely qualified.  Got fired then went to UAB where he was horrible and got fired there too.  Been at tiny D1 schools ever since.  Sampson was a great coach and didn't get fired because of his performance.  Crean got fired then went to Georgia, a huge school with enormous resources and top notch in state recruiting.  Was completely awful and got fired again.  Archie got fired and is now at RI and while it's only been 2 years he's winning 36% of his games.  Will likely get fired in the next couple years there too.

It's 100% the administration.

Sure but when hired both crean and Miller had been “successful.”  Just couldn’t get it done at IU (or elsewhere apparently).  

[Hoosierfan2017 20,671]

20 minutes ago, Josh said:

Wait, this team can't shoot the ball and it's because of the fans?  They don't hustle and it's because of the fans?  They can't rebound, defend the three, play with a high iq...and it's because of the fans?

Interesting take.

Time to look in the mirror. 

[IU_FanClub 1,643]

6 minutes ago, raorIU said:

Isn't that the game Assembly Call is doing their live show?

Yeah but I can’t imagine they have that big of a draw haha

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,754]

I think Chris Beard would absolutely kill it here.  He would be loved by the old guard fans and I believe he could bring the recruits as well.  Texas was about to be a monster before his demise there in my opinion.  The guy can coach.  I have no faith though if things go south even more for Woody that the admin would make a hire like that.  

Agreed. Someone is gonna take that chance and be rewarded for it.

 

Is IU an easy job? No

Is any B1G job easy? No

Does Indiana NOW have the resources to compete at the top of the conference? Yes.

Are the fans the reason we aren’t good? NO

Were the same fans the reason we had a decent year just last year? Indifference

 

Once the excuse making happens it’s over.

 

Is Woody a bad coach? No

 

Is Woody’s approach to coaching College basketball in 2024 less than ideal? Yes

 

 

Has Woody absolutely crapped the bed this year? Yep

 

Does Woody deserve another year? Probably.

 

Can Woody get a Indiana to a second weekend? Sure, maybe. But he didn’t do it with 2 NBA guys, and his evaluation in the portal so far leaves a lot to be desired.

 

I’m over it all, but I realize we probably have to roll the dice next year and pray.

 

 

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Just now, IU_FanClub said:

Yeah but I can’t imagine they have that big of a draw haha

I dunno, they routinely get 1k+ watching their post game live stream on YouTube. I agree though, gotta be another reason for the lack of tickets.

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10 minutes ago, Cd71 said:

I think Chris Beard would absolutely kill it here.  He would be loved by the old guard fans and I believe he could bring the recruits as well.  Texas was about to be a monster before his demise there in my opinion.  The guy can coach.  I have no faith though if things go south even more for Woody that the admin would make a hire like that.  

So what makes a guy who has the world by the nuts get drunk and beat his fiancé? 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 83,479]

PLEASE.  Talk about Beard as a coach and his coaching abilities all you want but let's not start going down the road of his personal life and problems he's had.  We've been there and done that.  Thanks everyone.

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5 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Agreed. Someone is gonna take that chance and be rewarded for it.

 

Is IU an easy job? No

Is any B1G job easy? No

Does Indiana NOW have the resources to compete at the top of the conference? Yes.

Are the fans the reason we aren’t good? NO

Were the same fans the reason we had a decent year just last year? Indifference

 

Once the excuse making happens it’s over.

 

Is Woody a bad coach? No

 

Is Woody’s approach to coaching College basketball in 2024 less than ideal? Yes

 

 

Has Woody absolutely crapped the bed this year? Yep

 

Does Woody deserve another year? Probably.

 

Can Woody get a Indiana to a second weekend? Sure, maybe. But he didn’t do it with 2 NBA guys, and his evaluation in the portal so far leaves a lot to be desired.

 

I’m over it all, but I realize we probably have to roll the dice next year and pray.

 

 

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One of the things Cig talks about is the process.  Do x, do y, do z and the wins follow from there.  What is Woodson’s process?  It just seems helter skelter  to me.  That is my biggest concern currently.  

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1 minute ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

PLEASE.  Talk about Beard as a coach and his coaching abilities all you want but let's not start going down the road of his personal life and problems he's had.  We've been there and done that.  Thanks everyone.

Kind of related, no.  Nobody coaches in a vacuum.  And a lot of coaches have “issues.”  Might it be a distinguishing characteristic of “good” coaches?  

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4 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

That attitude got us in this mess when the program blew up under Sampson.  We can have it all.  Just need to find the right coach which to date has been a complete cluster fk.  Crean was close but fell short.  Archie, wtf was that.  Woodson looking more and more like a bust.  Gotta find that hungry guy with a complete plan.  

But the mess was our doing.  That’s not even a violation anymore.  

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1 minute ago, IUFAN1976 said:

But the mess was our doing.  That’s not even a violation anymore.  

The phone calls aren't but lying to the NCAA still is. That is what we really got in trouble for. That and "lack of institutional control."

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,754]

One of the things Cig talks about is the process.  Do x, do y, do z and the wins follow from there.  What is Woodson’s process?  It just seems helter skelter  to me.  That is my biggest concern currently.  

I’m sure he has a system. I could tell who the projected starters were and each backup all off season. I had the depth chart nailed without ever stepping on Assembly Hall Court.

The staff grossly misread the talent they have and especially the intangibles they have. We have a lot of likeable kids on this roster off the court. But we sure don’t have enough winners or shooters.




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5 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Kind of related, no.  Nobody coaches in a vacuum.  And a lot of coaches have “issues.”  Might it be a distinguishing characteristic of “good” coaches?  

Agreed most coaches probably have an issue of some kind just like all of us do.  Specifically with Beard we've just beat that horse to death and doesn't seem worthwhile to keep regurgitating the same pros and cons of his personal life.   His coaching abilities, recruiting strategies are great for discussion.  Now, if some less than savory issues in Dusty May's life surface, by all means they're worthy of being brought to the board for discussion.

And I've taken us more into the Candidate thread than the rant thread.  My bad.

[IUFAN1976 2,746]

8 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

The phone calls aren't but lying to the NCAA still is. That is what we really got in trouble for. That and "lack of institutional control."

It was but now that is not an NCAA violation, lying is never good.  Wasn’t lack of institutional control our own violation, not an NCAA violation?