They Fired Tom Allen!

[TTT]

Big winners in the IU football mess

Tom Allen the biggest winner given unqualified.

Womack great stair stepper

DeBeor great staircase 

Penix great for him 

(miscellaneous winners are all those who got to work in a field they like and were paid well)

 

[Hoosier987]

Mitchell Paige bringing up some good points on his tweets. Clearly not happy…and how could you.

[AZ Hoosier]

24 minutes ago, TTT said:

Is Indiana State on the schedule?

Let's hope Akron is not.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

[TTT]

As usual just a total program talent disparity.

[IUFootballHappyHappyJoyJoy]

At this point, I just know he's gone sooner or later; it's up to Indiana to decide if he's worth one more year of this nonsense.

My concern is that Indiana will cheap out on the next hire, as always.

[TTT]

Listening to DeBoer on short interview is a difference of night and day compared to T.A.

DeBoer class, confident and POISED.

[Hoosierfan2017]

27 minutes ago, TTT said:

Listening to DeBoer on short interview is a difference of night and day compared to T.A.

DeBoer class, confident and POISED.

You mean Tom frantically pacing the sidelines, frothing at the mouth, and celebrating like a cheerleader doesn’t project poise? 

[MemphisHoosier]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

You mean Tom frantically pacing the sidelines, frothing at the mouth, and celebrating like a cheerleader doesn’t project poise? 

And how could we forget his love of kicking trash cans on the field?!

[coonhounds]

Swear this dude is tom crean 2.0. Act like a clown on the side line and when things go bad start throwing people under the bus.

 

Which if true means we may be 2 head coaching hires away from a decent one!

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[TTT]

IU sold out when after that game where the players interrupted post game tv interview happily telling everyone how great of coach T.A. is/was. A win/s in a starved program makes for undisciplined craziness sometimes.

 T.A. Owes them.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

32 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Swear this dude is tom crean 2.0. Act like a clown on the side line and when things go bad start throwing people under the bus.

 

Which if true means we may be 2 head coaching hires away from a decent one!

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Except Cream was able to win 2 B1G titles and 6 post season games.

[cbp4iu]

Curious to see what gigs Tom Allen would get after he gets let go. Will he want to coach again?

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

24 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

Curious to see what gigs Tom Allen would get after he gets let go. Will he want to coach again?

Nothing mor likely. He's not even that good of a DC. Kane Wommack made him look like he was still a HS coach.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

[Alford Bailey]

If the team has given up and lays an egg against Rutgers I say fire him at that point.

[LamarCheeks]

The reality of the matter is Allen isn't going anywhere -- unless he has some sort of epiphany, realizes he's in way over his head and resigns. 

Dolson has proven quite adept at fundraising (witness getting alumni to pony up $10M to fire Archie), but I have a difficult time believing he'd be able to get nearly $21M to fire the football coach. And if CTA is let go before the end of next season, that's what he's owed. 

Heck, even if we tried to make a move after next season, it'd still cost almost $8M.

Perhaps -- and this would be a big if -- the sides could agree that this isn't working and negotiate a lesser buyout? Not sure how, or if, that would work. But that seems to be the only hope at this point. 

[Stuhoo]

2 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

The reality of the matter is Allen isn't going anywhere -- unless he has some sort of epiphany, realizes he's in way over his head and resigns. 

Dolson has proven quite adept at fundraising (witness getting alumni to pony up $10M to fire Archie), but I have a difficult time believing he'd be able to get nearly $21M to fire the football coach. And if CTA is let go before the end of next season, that's what he's owed. 

Heck, even if we tried to make a move after next season, it'd still cost almost $8M.

Perhaps -- and this would be a big if -- the sides could agree that this isn't working and negotiate a lesser buyout? Not sure how, or if, that would work. But that seems to be the only hope at this point. 

But there’s a lot more than the raw number that goes into the actuarial equation.

It’s not a lump sum; it’s offset by his future income; there’s significantly less revenue if he stays; etc.

I think he’s gone at the end of the season.

[Hovadipo]

25 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

LOL

The handling of this year’s QB situation would get most coaches fired on its own merit. Let alone all the other dumb crap he’s done. 

[LIHoosier]

11 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

But there’s a lot more than the raw number that goes into the actuarial equation.

It’s not a lump sum; it’s offset by his future income; there’s significantly less revenue if he stays; etc.

I think he’s gone at the end of the season.

Chryst last year got fired mid season and took an $11 mn buyout compared to the $16 mn or so he was contractually obligated to. Doing some reading, he got that money in a lump sum rather than over several years like most buyout or owed monies are. There's always room for negotiation.