They Fired Tom Allen!

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

8 hours ago, KingPG21 said:

Do you really think Deion would ever consider coming here. Cause he wouldn't 

You'd at least have to try. I know people are scared c of being a stepping stone job, but that just means we are winning. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

1 hour ago, maharkn said:

I'm just saying we need to pay a big name to come in

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Don't mean to be snarky why on earth would a big name want to come to IU football?

[maharkn]

Don't mean to be snarky why on earth would a big name want to come to IU football?

Money talks.

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[kreigh8]

28 minutes ago, maharkn said:

Money talks.

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What money is available? IU had to beg donors to just fire the OC last season, replace him with a runoff at Umass. IU really have money to buy out Allen then pry Deion away?

Something to envision in the new college football video game which looks more likely for 2024

[JSHoosier]

43 minutes ago, maharkn said:

Money talks.

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Would IU donors really want to pay as much as needed to make Allen go away, then follow it up with the money it'd take to get Sanders to listen to a program that's historically pathetic?  That's just the HC spot too, there'd still need to be money for coordinators.

IUFB is in a very tough spot.

[J34]

49 minutes ago, maharkn said:

Money talks.

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Not if it leads to a dead end.

[Hoosierfan2017]

We won’t be able to land a big name but we can land someone better than Tom Allen (which wouldn’t be very hard). The rest of the league is loading up. Nebraska a couple days ago. Wisconsin now. We’re going to cement our spot at the bottom of the conference if we don’t make a move. Dolson needs to do something. 

 

[J34]

20 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

We won’t be able to land a big name but we can land someone better than Tom Allen (which wouldn’t be very hard). The rest of the league is loading up. Nebraska a couple days ago. Wisconsin now. We’re going to cement our spot at the bottom of the conference if we don’t make a move. Dolson needs to do something. 

 

We cemented our spot at the bottom a long time ago!

[KingPG21]

4 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

You'd at least have to try. I know people are scared c of being a stepping stone job, but that just means we are winning. 

Don't put words in my mouth. There is zero chance Deion would come here. They can try. He;d laugh and hang up

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

12 minutes ago, KingPG21 said:

Don't put words in my mouth. There is zero chance Deion would come here. They can try. He;d laugh and hang up

I'd take that over nothing. I would take even acting like you're making a call. That's still more than what Cool Dad did before hitting Allen. 

[KingPG21]

4 hours ago, maharkn said:

Money talks.

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1) IU is not gonna buy out CTA then go out and give a big pay day to a big name coach

 

2) IU commits money to the basketball program, they seemingly don't have the interest to dedicate the same to the football program. Look at how schools like Alabama, OSU, Michigan, USC, Texas A&M,  etc treat game day. They are events, At IU its just a game, there are no theatrics. Kids like that stuff. You are literally competing at a disadvantage at every level with IU football.

 

3) Unless something changes with the AD and more importantly where the money is coming/where they want the money going to this is a deeper issue than the head coach. I do not want CTA here anymore. But, people act like just throwing money at a coach is gonna fix it. This university isn't dedicated to having a competitive football program cause it is so easy for them to make a profit. The difference of their dedication to the basketball program and football is immense 

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I lost my ability to type when typing my last sentence

[Demo]

Putting aside the obvious fact that an established top guy is never, ever coming to IU, here’s the going rate for top guys.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

8 minutes ago, Demo said:

Putting aside the obvious fact that an established top guy is never, ever coming to IU, here’s the going rate for top guys.

Lol. Mel Tucker. 

[JSHoosier]

15 minutes ago, Demo said:

Putting aside the obvious fact that an established top guy is never, ever coming to IU, here’s the going rate for top guys.

Yeah, IU would never pay that for a FB coach.  Especially not if we had to pay double that just to make a bad one go away.

[Golfman25]

56 minutes ago, KingPG21 said:

 

 

2) IU commits money to the basketball program, they seemingly don't have the interest to dedicate the same to the football program. Look at how schools like Alabama, OSU, Michigan, USC, Texas A&M,  etc treat game day. They are events, At IU its just a game, there are no theatrics. Kids like that stuff. You are literally competing at a disadvantage at every level with IU football.

 

 

Next you’re going to tell me it’s because the cheerleaders wear turtlenecks.  Come on man. 

[LIHoosier]

1 hour ago, KingPG21 said:

3) Unless something changes with the AD and more importantly where the money is coming/where they want the money going to this is a deeper issue than the head coach. I do not want CTA here anymore. But, people act like just throwing money at a coach is gonna fix it. This university isn't dedicated to having a competitive football program cause it is so easy for them to make a profit. The dufferebce ub tgeur deducatuib ti the basketball program and football is immense 

I'm not debating any of your points, I just want to know if Tom Pritchard dunked during that last sentence.

[Golfman25]

On 11/19/2022 at 3:33 PM, IUFootballEndlessMisery said:

Indiana will forever be stuck in the "Chicken and Egg" cycle; people will complain about how they need X, Y, and Z in order to compete, but they have to start competing before they have the right to be given X, Y, and Z.  It's the argument that they have to earn their way to success in order to have the basic amenities other programs in the league are granted to show they are serious about the sport.

But in Allen's case, I wish he wouldn't compare Indiana to the top programs in the Big Ten.  We need to associate ourselves with the middle of the pack, as in order for us to have success, we need to be able to compete and regularly defeat those teams if we are to build a resume to justify the kind of investments to take on the elite schools.  It isn't glamorous to say "we should beat Rutgers every year" cause you want to assume you already are able to do that.  We're Indiana!  But, that kind of malaise can allow Rutgers to beat us 6, if not 7, times a decade if we played them 10 times if we stay pat with this current attitude.

Allen needs to reflect on the season and change.  He needs to change before any coaches, players, facilities, etc.  He’s got nowhere else to go, so if he wants his big job he must change.  First get off the QB carousel.  No reason to bring that Blazack kid in when you had his twin Tuttle.  All you did was piss him off and loose a bunch of games.  Stop chasing the shinny thing — Figure out what type of QB you want and recruit them in.  Then work on your team identity.  The NIL money will come with a good plan to sell and some success. 

[KingPG21]

1 hour ago, LIHoosier said:

I'm not debating any of your points, I just want to know if Tom Pritchard dunked during that last sentence.

Yup

 

No idea what happened when I was typing

[KingPG21]

2 hours ago, Demo said:

Putting aside the obvious fact that an established top guy is never, ever coming to IU, here’s the going rate for top guys.

* Top guys, and Mel Tucker is there too

[KingPG21]

1 hour ago, Golfman25 said:

Next you’re going to tell me it’s because the cheerleaders wear turtlenecks.  Come on man. 

Some of you are out of touch if you think the spectacle these big schools make of game day doesn't matter to high school kids. It absolutely does.