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15 hours ago, HoosierTrav said:

I’m really hoping to see Tamar Bates in the starting lineup over Miler Kopp. Bates showed flashes of a higher ceiling than Kopp when he got more than spot minutes. Kopp just doesn’t move the needle for me at all. I see a lot of what we saw last season from him. 

Maybe by the Big Ten season but not for the first half. Woody loves him some veteran guys and Kopp has been around. 

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42 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Maybe by the Big Ten season but not for the first half. Woody loves him some veteran guys and Kopp has been around. 

True, and there wasn't much wing depth last season. What we have in actual wing depth (and by that I'm including starting-level talent) this season remains to be seen -- but, Bates seems to me like the most likely candidate to play more heavy minutes on the wing. Man, though, I hope to see lineups with JG and Bates and/or JG and Gallo and/or JG and Ren (the latter is, to me, straight up scary on potential).

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Hey MK. If you read all the posts hoping you don’t start, or hoping you play limited minutes, I’ll come at it from a different angle. It seems obvious that Woody is going to start you so I hope your defense continues to get better, you blend in well with JHS and that you hit shots at a rate that will make it hard to take you off the court. Drill the kick-outs,  stretch the D and 40%+ from the three baybee!!!

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By the end of the year Kopp was one of IU’s better defenders.  Kopp is going to get a ton of minutes in my opinion.   Bates time on the floor will depend on how much he has improved defensively.  If his minutes are limited it will be because of the defensive side of the ball 

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22 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

By the end of the year Kopp was one of IU’s better defenders.  Kopp is going to get a ton of minutes in my opinion.   Bates time on the floor will depend on how much he has improved defensively.  If his minutes are limited it will be because of the defensive side of the ball 

You may be right re ton of minutes, he was playing basically 21-22 min a game to close out the season with some 30-plus minute game (mostly bc of player injuries iirc correctly). But he was shooting like 1-3 shots a game and our perimeter game was almost non-existent. Agree guys like Bates have to show improved D (tend to think Woodson's continuing high praise wouldn't be there if it wasn't but we'll see). Woodson's comments do show he's a D-first guy, but we need a perimeter game to run deep. Hopefully Kopp shoots more with the anticipated ball movement from JHS/X.

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2 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

You may be right re ton of minutes, he was playing basically 21-22 min a game to close out the season with some 30-plus minute game (mostly bc of player injuries iirc correctly). But he was shooting like 1-3 shots a game and our perimeter game was almost non-existent. Agree guys like Bates have to show improved D (tend to think Woodson's continuing high praise wouldn't be there if it wasn't but we'll see). Woodson's comments do show he's a D-first guy, but we need a perimeter game to run deep. Hopefully Kopp shoots more with the anticipated ball movement from JHS/X.

I’m with you here. I’m less concerned with the defense out of Kopp’s position than I am the scoring. Kopp was an absolute liability on both ends during the tournaments. At this stage in his career, he’s a known commodity. Bates, IMHO needs Kopp’s minutes for us to really reach our potential. 

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4 hours ago, HoosierTrav said:

I’m with you here. I’m less concerned with the defense out of Kopp’s position than I am the scoring. Kopp was an absolute liability on both ends during the tournaments. At this stage in his career, he’s a known commodity. Bates, IMHO needs Kopp’s minutes for us to really reach our potential. 

Yeah I don’t mean to dis Kopp, his positional D is solid, and he can shoot, but Woodson didn’t bring him to IU for his defense, he was brought here to add to / build our nonexistent perimeter game from what CAM left us with, and he barely shoots, his role was to add shooting, and where was it? He scored at the bottom of the team, we shot, and he shot, at the bottom of the B1G.

So if Woodson continues to play him in the area of 20 minutes, I hope it’s bc he’s doing what he was brought here to do, shooting and forcing defenses to extend, he has the shooting ability to do that, maybe now with JHS and X we’ll see it. But regardless we’ll be a more dangerous team come March if Bates is playing with that Soph jump and showing the level of talent we know he has, he’s an attacking 3 level scorer, we need that to run deep (and JG’s growth as well)

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6 minutes ago, southsidehoosier said:

TJD’s jacket is :92:

The muted shade of red makes it not totally goofy like it usually is. It’s an non-ironic great look imo. 
 

Disclaimer: that is, for anyone with even a semblance of swagger, so…..none of us.

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