HoosierTrav Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 29 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said: Iowa is gonna be a very trendy Final Four pick. They won’t make it to the sweet 16. Calling it now. thebigweave, GoIU8 and IUCrazy2 3 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said: This is why I hate just using metrics to determine the selections. If you just watch the teams there is no way Iowa St. is better than IU. They were 7-11 in conference and lost their first conference tournament game. I get you have to use some metrics but give me people who knows basketball and pick the best teams. We listen to some computer geeks who never played sports in their life. Rant over. Chris Reynolds is on the committee although I’m guessing when IU was being discussed he had to leave the room lillurk 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 IU v Wyoming: KenPom: IU by 1 (67-66) (52% chance) Sagarin: IU by 5 Tarvik: IU 68=64; IU 67% chance to beat Wyoming theriverpilot and WayneFleekHoosier 2 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 One positive.....IF we win, we feed into the 5/12 and 4/13 bracket. That bracket I believe has traditionally been the easiest for a higher seeded team to advance. Five Prime, BGVille Hoosierfan and lillurk 3 Quote
IU Scott Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 I just hope the winner of our game at least gets a night game on Thursday. That team will end late Tuesday and then have to fly all the way to Portland. lillurk and WayneFleekHoosier 2 Quote
LamarCheeks Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said: They won’t make it to the sweet 16. Calling it now. Al Durham will have a say in whether they do! Quote
GoIU8 Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said: They won’t make it to the sweet 16. Calling it now. Iowa has quite the storied history of flaming out early, so this is my pick. southsidehoosier 1 Quote
LIHoosier Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 app. 9:10 pm TruTV Tuesday for Wyoming game, 7:20 TBS Thursday if we win vs St Marys WayneFleekHoosier, lillurk and RoadRage 3 Quote
lillurk Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 22 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Chris Reynolds is on the committee although I’m guessing when IU was being discussed he had to leave the room My concern with the selection committee is that despite having an established criteria, it’s selectively applied case-by-case. This is an old saw but to use IU as an example this year: if you look at the S-curve, I can’t really fathom a blend of résumé and predictive metrics that have IU lower than 40th (I’d drop Miami below IU and move Loyola up). And yet somehow the committee finds a way. BtownStrength, Josh, Uspshoosier and 1 other 4 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, GoIU8 said: Iowa has quite the storied history of flaming out early, so this is my pick. They are definitely peaking right now. But we put up 77 on them and didn't hit shots. They are going to run into teams that are going run into teams that get stops. That said, IMO they have a favorable draw. Richmond more than anything got in because Davidson handed it to them today. Richmond is not a high ceiling team. Opposite them, I am expecting that South Dakota State will beat Providence. South Dakota State really pushes temp (averaged 87 ppg) and I think Providence which is not Providence's strong point. I think we know that more than anything Providence had a lot of things break their way this year, but that doesn't really predict future success. And if South Dakota State gets by Providence, they are playing the of ball that Iowa WANTS to play. lillurk 1 Quote
HoosierTrav Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 The only argument I’m hearing, in regard to Michigan getting a bye, is that they get a participation award for playing a tough schedule. Didn’t do **** with that tough non con schedule… just getting rewarded for scheduling. Bunk. **** Michigan! thebigweave, Josh, Joe_hoopsier and 1 other 4 Quote
Ryno6284 Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, IUFAN1976 said: So why play the conference tournaments if they are irrelevant. This is why RMK hated the idea of a B1G tournament! RoadRage, BtownStrength and southsidehoosier 3 Quote
Ryno6284 Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 29 minutes ago, brumdog45 said: IU v Wyoming: KenPom: IU by 1 (67-66) (52% chance) Sagarin: IU by 5 Tarvik: IU 68=64; IU 67% chance to beat Wyoming I like Tarvik! Quote
Hoosier Guy Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, HoosierTrav said: The only argument I’m hearing, in regard to Michigan getting a bye, is that they get a participation award for playing a tough schedule. Didn’t do **** with that tough non con schedule… just getting rewarded for scheduling. Bunk. **** Michigan! Yeah a tough schedule shouldn’t mean anything if a team doesn’t win a lot of those games. Ridiculous. Davidson and San Francisco still confuse the **** out of me as well yogisballin 1 Quote
IUc2016 Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 29 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I just hope the winner of our game at least gets a night game on Thursday. That team will end late Tuesday and then have to fly all the way to Portland. Would be a 7:20 tip. But that’s 4:20 pacific time so not close to 48 hours from a 9:10 eastern tip on Tuesday Quote
LIHoosier Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, IUc2016 said: Would be a 7:20 tip. But that’s pacific time so not close to 48 hours from a 9:10 eastern tip on Tuesday Nope that's eastern so its a 4:20 local tip on Thursday. Destiny. Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, lillurk said: My concern with the selection committee is that despite having an established criteria, it’s selectively applied case-by-case. This is an old saw but to use IU as an example this year: if you look at the S-curve, I can’t really fathom a blend of résumé and predictive metrics that have IU lower than 40th (I’d drop Miami below IU and move Loyola up). And yet somehow the committee finds a way. They were 42 on my S curve. I did have them just a couple of spots above the play ins. I can even understand Michigan being above IU -- their SOS was unreal. That said, the resume of Michigan and Oklahoma are almost identical and Oklahoma was at least the second team not in the tournament which means the committee had at least 7 teams between the two. I don't understand Rutgers at all.....they really have one positive (quad 1 wins) but everything else screams "not a tournament team". Overall record? Not a tournament team. Non-conference SOS? Not a tournament team. Bad losses? Not a tournament team. Efficiency? Not a tournament team. NET? Not a tournament team. But here is the thing: even if the committee put IU ahead of both Rutgers and Michigan, IU is STILL in the play in since they had IU as the next to last team in. That also says to me that if IU had beaten Purdue in the last regular season game and then lost to Michigan to open the BTT, IU would not have made the tournament despite being 10-10 in conference and 19-12 overall. lillurk 1 Quote
IUc2016 Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, LIHoosier said: Nope that's eastern so its a 4:20 local tip on Thursday. Destiny. Yeah that’s what I was meaning. I edited it to make sense. Quote
rcbowla Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 Laramie, Wyoming has a population as big as Muncie, IndianaDrove by it once. Looked much bigger than Muncie but I'll take your word for itSent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said: The only argument I’m hearing, in regard to Michigan getting a bye, is that they get a participation award for playing a tough schedule. Didn’t do **** with that tough non con schedule… just getting rewarded for scheduling. Bunk. **** Michigan! Take a look at Rutgers: their non-conference schedule was as bad as ours. And they SUCKED in non-conference anyway. Think they lost four games including a Q3 and Q4 (at home). As you said, it's like they didn't even look at the actual results of the non-conference games, just who they were against. The fact that Dayton was their first team out (LOL) backs that up. lillurk 1 Quote
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