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[IUc2016]

1 minute ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

So, stay with me on this, and yeah I’m probably gonna get roasted. But I personally am of the opinion that you don’t punish your team for some individual mistakes. You bench five guys in a winnable game when you don’t have many winnable games left. Unless it was serious and police were involved or something, couldn’t you run their butts at practice? Maybe stagger the suspensions over two games? To me, I can see where basically forefitting a game that could impact your programs chances at a tourney birth, etc. might be unfair to the team. It better win him some parents on the recruiting trail or something, because not making the tourney AGAIN, could be deflating to the program, like it or not.  

I guess I am a bit torn on the decision. But you either have to go all in on the punishment or do nothing at all. Otherwise it’s just lip service and doesn’t mean much imo.

this certainly meant something, guess we will just see how ends up playing out because yes it’s a big risk given the state of the program 

[yogisballin]

Cool, people are 'done with TJD'.
You should be done with Lander.  Finally was getting a chance to get minutes and ****ed it up.
Be done with X, who finally has a chance to be in the NCAA tournament and might have ****ed it up for everyone involved.
Be done with Parker Stewart who hasn't shown that he even really wants to be on the court.

There’s lots of players that I’m done with. Gutty performance by the kids that played tonight. However, super unfortunate that TJD didn’t dominate this game.


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[str8baller]

2 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

So, stay with me on this, and yeah I’m probably gonna get roasted. But I personally am of the opinion that you don’t punish your team for some individual mistakes. You bench five guys in a winnable game when you don’t have many winnable games left. Unless it was serious and police were involved or something, couldn’t you run their butts at practice? Maybe stagger the suspensions over two games? To me, I can see where basically forefitting a game that could impact your programs chances at a tourney birth, etc. might be unfair to the team. It better win him some parents on the recruiting trail or something, because not making the tourney AGAIN, could be deflating to the program, like it or not.  

Nah…first year. Set the tone. Even if it means missing the tourney. If you don’t do it now you have no chance later. 

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, FightFor6 said:

The fact that you measure the validity of opinions based on time spent on a message board says all anyone needs to know about you. Step outside and get some fresh air.

Not what I said.  But you keep on trucking along you keep on being wrong. And people can continue to correct you 

[TheWatShot]

4 minutes ago, FightFor6 said:

These clowns come out of the woodwork every time the team doesn't put out an A performance. The fact they're doing it on a night where only 6 scholarship players played shows their true colors. Must be a very sad existence.

The fact that we only had 6 scholarship players is what people are angry about. This program just can't get out of its own way and we're all really f*cking tired of it. 

[HoosierAloha]

2 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

So, stay with me on this, and yeah I’m probably gonna get roasted. But I personally am of the opinion that you don’t punish your team for some individual mistakes. You bench five guys in a winnable game when you don’t have many winnable games left. Unless it was serious and police were involved or something, couldn’t you run their butts at practice? Maybe stagger the suspensions over two games? To me, I can see where basically forefitting a game that could impact your programs chances at a tourney birth, etc. might be unfair to the team. It better win him some parents on the recruiting trail or something, because not making the tourney AGAIN, could be deflating to the program, like it or not.  

We're still comfortably in today. The talent level took a dive with 5 players being selfish but the problems that have cost us games all year were still there. Free throws, rebounding, leaving shooters wide open, etc.

Kind of wish we would have gone full Wiscy mode crawl up the court mode to save some legs but it was a throwaway game, plenty of built in excuses either way.

[Trish]

51 points tonight. 
 

Was that Archie over there on the sideline? ;)

[coonhounds]

These clowns come out of the woodwork every time the team doesn't put out an A performance. The fact they're doing it on a night where only 6 scholarship players played shows their true colors. Must be a very sad existence.

Lord all mighty. Most these posters are solid fans. I hope I speak for everyone when I say suspended players just points out how pathetic this program is. Reality is we will never know the outcome with those guys but have enough evidence to suggest we may have lost regardless. Nobody is coming out of any woodwork we suck and have for years. Know body wants that to change more than every dang poster on this board and all over Hoosier nation I would think!

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[Brass Cannon]

7 minutes ago, Trish said:

It’s a very weak draft class this year. He needs to go if he wants a shot at the second round. 

He’s not getting drafted in the second round even in this weak draft class 

[cthomas]

Bigger question. Can we have the type of program with integrity that we want in today's college game? Will the kids that we need to compete at the highest level play for a coach who holds then accountable? As much as I want a clean and respectable program, I'm not sure that is possible at the top of college basketball. I want to believe that it is but given what we see I'm not so sure. I don't want to see IU become just another cess pool just to compete. But, maybe that's the only way. If so, I might have to find something else to do.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

You think we are more likely to go 1-5 than 3-4?

That is so very not true

Uh yes. Because our last stretch here is..

At Michigan State

Wisconsin

At Ohio State

Maryland

At Minnesota

Rutgers

At Purdue

This team sucks on the road. Period. They are horrid. So that's 4 losses likely. Probably lose to Wisconsin. Then it's down to Maryland and Rutgers. And well... We stink against Rutgers for whatever reason. 

[cleeter]

Totally off topic, but Jesus, what is the B1G budget when hiring analysts. Good god there is anyone worth a damn on their payroll


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[RaceToTheTop]

1 minute ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

So, stay with me on this, and yeah I’m probably gonna get roasted. But I personally am of the opinion that you don’t punish your team for some individual mistakes. You bench five guys in a winnable game when you don’t have many winnable games left. Unless it was serious and police were involved or something, couldn’t you run their butts at practice? Maybe stagger the suspensions over two games? To me, I can see where basically forefitting a game that could impact your programs chances at a tourney birth, etc. might be unfair to the team. It better win him some parents on the recruiting trail or something, because not making the tourney AGAIN, could be deflating to the program, like it or not.  

No.  If's a suspendable offense, it doesn't become less suspendable because more guys did it.

[str8baller]

3 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Cool, people are 'done with TJD'.

You should be done with Lander.  Finally was getting a chance to get minutes and ****ed it up.

Be done with X, who finally has a chance to be in the NCAA tournament and might have ****ed it up for everyone involved.

Be done with Parker Stewart who hasn't shown that he even really wants to be on the court.

Nobody is done with him. I just think one of the IU greats would’ve stepped up. It’s NW. He’s bullied lesser teams all year. Nobody is asking him to outplay Cockburn tonight. Just disappointing he’s not progressed to that level. I felt the same way about zeller, and he was much better than TJD.   
 

You need those players to be a big time program. 

[IUc2016]

1 minute ago, TheWatShot said:

The fact that we only had 6 scholarship players is what people are angry about. This program just can't get out of its own way and we're all really f*cking tired of it. 

If you have been reading this thread, quite a few of the posters are complaining about the game, not the other stuff. So I completely agree with him 

[cleeter]

He’s not getting drafted in the second round even in this weak draft class 

Looked at three mock drafts. 2 didn’t have him drafted and other had him very last pick.

 

 

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[Brass Cannon]

1 minute ago, Trish said:

51 points tonight. 
 

Was that Archie over there on the sideline? ;)

It’s fine. Everything is fine 

[FightFor6]

Just now, TheWatShot said:

The fact that we only had 6 scholarship players is what people are angry about. This program just can't get out of its own way and we're all really f*cking tired of it. 

I completely agree with this point. The 5 guys out tonight cannot put their team in this position and deserve all the criticism for tonight's result. To pretend tonight was somehow on the 6 guys on the floor "no show'ing" is my primary point of contention. That's a completely unfair assessment.

[RaceToTheTop]

1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Uh yes. Because our last stretch here is..

At Michigan State

Wisconsin

At Ohio State

Maryland

At Minnesota

Rutgers

At Purdue

This team sucks on the road. Period. They are horrid. So that's 4 losses likely. Probably lose to Wisconsin. Then it's down to Maryland and Rutgers. And well... We stink against Rutgers for whatever reason. 

Cool.  You take 0 or 1 wins, I'll take 3 or more.  2 is a push.  Who should hold the money for the bet?

[Trish]

Would be a shame to miss this years dance because this roster next year could be looking rough, with some talent however.