2022-2023 IUBB Roster Projection

[Silat Player]

If IU gets both Reneau and Dennis, I'm not sure that I see JG staying. I obviously have no inside knowledge, but you've just added a 4/5 and a 3 to the roster. I would see Dennis especially being an issue if JG was given any promises about being given opportunities to play the 3.

Obviously, who knows. But if any of the rumors about JG considering moving closer to home the last 2 years have been true, you've got to wonder if he is considering pulling the trigger this year before May 1st if Dennis commits. Certainly something to look for. 

[IU Scott]

Just say Leal pays his own way and nobody leaves that could cause problems with playing time. Will Kopp be happy from being a starter to maybe being the 12th guy in the rotation.

[HoosierFan1994]

43 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Since we are speculating, if all the chips fell into place a rotation of:

• TJD
• Race
• JHS
• Bates
• X
• Dennis
• Jordan G
• Malik Reneau
• Gallo

Sounds pretty freaking incredible to me. Like, "sky's the limit" incredible.

 

Same...if one of them can really develop into a shooter...

[Chris007]

14 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Just say Leal pays his own way and nobody leaves that could cause problems with playing time. Will Kopp be happy from being a starter to maybe being the 12th guy in the rotation.

Or would JG be happy if he can't play the 3, due to many reasons that have been stated here? Then you have to move him to the 4 where you have Race & Malik. Then you also have Dennis, Kopp, Leal all at the 3.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

45 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Thank you. It seems from talking to some, that this has been already discussed with Leal and his family. I don't know that for sure but some boosters are telling me that. He won't be made to leave, he just might have to use NIL money to pay for school. 

And if that scenario would happen to play out, Leal's NIL money might take a sudden jump.  Just thinkin' out loud.

 

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, Chris007 said:

Or would JG be happy if he can't play the 3, due to many reasons that have been stated here? Then you have to move him to the 4 where you have Race & Malik. Then you also have Dennis, Kopp, Leal all at the 3.

I think JG has to accept that if he’s going to transform into a 3. He might have to lose PT for a year 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

With each day we draw closer to the May 1, deadline, seems less likely any of our players are going to go portal jumping.   I'll reiterate my earlier statement that I think there's a plan in place and everyone has bought into that plan.

[PB1230]

34 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

If IU gets both Reneau and Dennis, I'm not sure that I see JG staying. I obviously have no inside knowledge, but you've just added a 4/5 and a 3 to the roster. I would see Dennis especially being an issue if JG was given any promises about being given opportunities to play the 3.

Obviously, who knows. But if any of the rumors about JG considering moving closer to home the last 2 years have been true, you've got to wonder if he is considering pulling the trigger this year before May 1st if Dennis commits. Certainly something to look for. 

Although, JG has 3 years of eligibility remaining, and Kopp/Dennis/Race would all be gone after next year. Assuming TJD is only back one more year, Reneau is likely to get most of his minutes at the 5 after that. Worst case is JG gets stuck in a minutes log jam this year, but is still a likely front runner for a starting spot at least one of the 3/4 spots his last 2 years.

[JimmerNoe]

If we are hoping:

- X and JHS eat up almost all of the guard minutes along with hopefully Tamar
- Dennis and JG play the three
- Race/Malik/JG getting 4 minutes
- TJD getting almost all the five minutes

Where the heck do Kopp/Galloway’s minutes go? I know this is a good problem to have but I am having a hard time seeing more than spot minutes for two guys that got starter minutes most of the year. I don’t think they both drop down to playing scrub minutes but if we are upgrading all these spots maybe it just has to happen that way?

[Hippopotamo]

Would there be a scenario if TJD returns for him to pay his own way? He’s about to make a ton of money on NIL deals if he sticks around. 

[CSP]

1 minute ago, Hippopotamo said:

Would there be a scenario if TJD returns for him to pay his own way? He’s about to make a ton of money on NIL deals if he sticks around. 

Honestly... out of these scenarios... I believe that one is the most likely knowing RTZ is saying ppl are ponying up for his NIL deal.  

[str8baller]

19 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I'll reiterate my earlier statement that I think there's a plan in place and everyone has bought into that plan.

I wouldn’t even know what to do with myself if we entered an era of IU basketball where the staff or administration  had ambitious plans and actually executed them without creating a giant embarrassing spectacle. Pinch myself, I guess? 
 

If Woody accomplishes that he gets an A for the off-season. We’d be entering the summer with as much optimism as any year since  the summer of ‘12. Any more excitement and you’d have to go back to Knight’s heyday and the early 90’s. 
 

 

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

Thank you. It seems from talking to some, that this has been already discussed with Leal and his family. I don't know that for sure but some boosters are telling me that. He won't be made to leave, he just might have to use NIL money to pay for school. 

So can we assume that IU's Student Athlete Bill of Rights is dead as a policy?  It would seem so since the second point in it is a four-year scholarship commitment regardless of injury, illness, or perforance.

[JimmerNoe]

I think whats wild is if this rotation shortens to 8 at the end of the year (which I think it needs to if you look at the teams winning titles), you will probably have 2-3 guys not playing that could reasonably be getting starter minutes. Trey, Miller, JG, Tamar?

[RaceToTheTop]

18 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

I sure hope so. Big time college ball is competitive and no one 'deserves' anything they don't earn, so I'm fine with honestly telling players "this is what we see (or don't see) in your future." I do hate the idea of anyone getting cut unless there is a good reason though. Frankly XJ is the most "deserving" of getting the boot, but I don't expect (or want) that to happen, either.

IMO....Kopp would be at the top of the list as he has already had four guaranteed years of scholarship (three at Northwestern and one at IU).  After four years my opinion is the school has live up to their part of deal in providing four years of scholarship.  I don't think the NCAA granting everyone an extra year should be held against a school if the player doesn't fit.  X, Race, and Kopp have all played four years (Race five if you count the redshirt).  At that, I think a school should look at performance as to whether they should hold the spot.

Back in the day, Matt Roth was famously not given a fifth year.  I didn't have a problem with that....just a problem with how Crean handled it in not being forthcoming with Roth.

[BGleas]

27 minutes ago, JimmerNoe said:

If we are hoping:

- X and JHS eat up almost all of the guard minutes along with hopefully Tamar
- Dennis and JG play the three
- Race/Malik/JG getting 4 minutes
- TJD getting almost all the five minutes

Where the heck do Kopp/Galloway’s minutes go? I know this is a good problem to have but I am having a hard time seeing more than spot minutes for two guys that got starter minutes most of the year. I don’t think they both drop down to playing scrub minutes but if we are upgrading all these spots maybe it just has to happen that way?

Well documented that I don't believe JG is a wing, but I'm done with that debate, can't take an entire offseason of that. 

With that said, JG is not getting wing minutes over Galloway. I'm not saying Kopp is what we need either, I just wouldn't think Kopp would stay if Bates, Galloway and JG are all hoping him in the lineup. 

[Chris007]

5 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

So can we assume that IU's Student Athlete Bill of Rights is dead as a policy?  It would seem so since the second point in it is a four-year scholarship commitment regardless of injury, illness, or perforance.

I have no idea about that. That was Fred's baby

[RaceToTheTop]

1 minute ago, JimmerNoe said:

I think whats wild is if this rotation shortens to 8 at the end of the year (which I think it needs to if you look at the teams winning titles), you will probably have 2-3 guys not playing that could reasonably be getting starter minutes. Trey, Miller, JG, Tamar?

Still a long ways away and if Woodson plays like he did last year, you can expect 10 to see some time.  Also have to consider that injuries can increase playing time for some.

[JimmerNoe]

With the addition of Malik and Dexter, along with Race and hopefully Trayce coming back, our 7 man rotation could consist of:
1. Preseason national AA (TJD)
2. Big Ten Honorable Mention (X)
3. Big Ten Honorable Mention (Race)
4. Conference DPOY (Dexter)
5. 5-star guard (JHS)
6. 5-star guard (Tamar)
7. 5-star big (Malik)

That leaves:
Miller (former starter)
Trey (starter minutes, energy/impact guy)
JG (who we all hope makes a huge leap)

Wow that’s a good problem to have.


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[RaceToTheTop]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I have no idea about that. That was Fred's baby

I know.  But I haven't heard anyone in the athletic department state that it's went away.  If it has gone away, fine......but the AD should at least own that.

Edit:  Let's also face the fact that a huge reason it came about in the first place was the spring Creaning that went on.