Ooooook who’s your # 2?

[Stuhoo]

3 minutes ago, Treesh said:

This is Indiana. We fired Crean because he couldn't get us a to a final four or banner. We fired Archie because he couldn't win. Matta hasn't coached a big time game since I was a freshman in college.

We're looking for a coach in 2025 because he won't lead us to a final four or banner. If we're going to hire a coach to just win and get us to a first round each year then.. wow. The media is indeed right. Indiana is not Indiana.

Give it up Treesh.

Do you really think waiting one year, five years, or 25 years will all of the sudden make Brad Stevens or Billy Donovan want to coach at IU? If you do, tell me what will be different next March.

We need a coach...now.

[Hoosierfan2017]

5 minutes ago, Treesh said:

This is Indiana. We fired Crean because he couldn't get us a to a final four or banner. We fired Archie because he couldn't win. Matta hasn't coached a big time game since I was a freshman in college.

We're looking for a coach in 2025 because he won't lead us to a final four or banner. If we're going to hire a coach to just win and get us to a first round each year then.. wow. The media is indeed right. Indiana is not Indiana.

 I know you have your reservations about Matta but I fully expect whoever we pick to be a worse hire than Matta would’ve been. 

[RaceToTheTop]

45 minutes ago, MemphisHoosier said:

Same, just checked my bank account as well - still broke ; )

I was broke and got a $1400 stimulus check.  Now I’m broke but with $1400 worth of  “It’s Steven’s Time!” crimson and cream t-shirts to unload.

[darB s'tI]

Don't know who my #2 is, but give me any guy that can get his team to play as hard as Loyola Chicago and I'm ALL in. Out size, out talented, out everything versus IL....except determination and heart.

[RaceToTheTop]

52 minutes ago, NVFalcons1990 said:

Really would not be shocked if Texas moves off Shaka Smart and goes all in on Beard since it is his supposed 'dream job'.

I really thought Shaka would do well at Texas.  I think that Texas won’t be his last major job.

[NVFalcons1990]

To me you go all out on our dream coaches then go down a tier:

Tier 1: Brad Stevens, Billy Donovan, Jay Wright, Tony Bennett, Mark Few, Bill Self

Tier 2: Chris Beard, Nate Oates, Scott Drew, Eric Musselman, Mike White, Andy Enfield, Mick Cronin, Mike Boynton, Porter Moser, Chris Mack 

Tier 3: Thad Matta, John Beilein, Rick Pitino, Steve Alford, Steve Lavin, Mark Pope, Dane Fife, Calbert Cheaney, Scott Skikes, Mike Woodson

[Banksyrules]

1 minute ago, NVFalcons1990 said:

To me you go all out on our dream coaches then go down a tier:

Tier 1: Brad Stevens, Billy Donovan, Jay Wright, Tony Bennett, Mark Few, Bill Self

Tier 2: Chris Beard, Nate Oates, Scott Drew, Eric Musselman, Mike White, Andy Enfield, Mick Cronin, Mike Boynton, Porter Moser, Chris Mack 

Tier 3: Thad Matta, John Beilein, Rick Pitino, Steve Alford, Steve Lavin, Mark Pope, Dane Fife, Calbert Cheaney, Scott Skikes, Mike Woodson

My proposal is that if you can’t get anything from Tier 2, we have a year where we have an interim manager. This is a hire that we should be comfortable with.

[NVFalcons1990]

1 minute ago, NVFalcons1990 said:

To me you go all out on our dream coaches then go down a tier:

Tier 1: Brad Stevens, Billy Donovan, Jay Wright, Tony Bennett, Mark Few, Bill Self

Tier 2: Chris Beard, Nate Oates, Scott Drew, Eric Musselman, Mike White, Andy Enfield, Mick Cronin, Mike Boynton, Porter Moser, Chris Mack 

Tier 3: Thad Matta, John Beilein, Rick Pitino, Steve Alford, Steve Lavin, Mark Pope, Dane Fife, Calbert Cheaney, Scott Skikes, Mike Woodson

Steve Lavin, I was shocked over some of his success.....

226-133 (.630), 4 sweet 16's and an Elite 8, also thought he was older, but only 56.

[Trish]

11 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Give it up Treesh.

Do you really think waiting one year, five years, or 25 years will all of the sudden make Brad Stevens or Billy Donovan want to coach at IU? If you do, tell me what will be different next March.

We need a coach...now.

Ask me a year from now when Tatum is not on the Celtics!

[ElectricBoogaloo]

43 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Not for nothing, but Anthony Leal would be a freaking superstar playing for Porter Moser.

And Braden Smith. 

[NVFalcons1990]

I would love to see what Mark Few could do in a real conference.

  His worst season ever:    23-11........just WOW

[Hoosierfan2017]

No mid-major coaches. No assistant coaches. Here’s a list. I tried to avoid any home runs that are basically impossible gets (Bennett/Wright, for example).

Scott Drew

Eric Musselman

Chris Beard

Nate Oats

Chris Mack

Thad Matta

John Beilein

Seven coaches. None of them are impossible gets. Some would be tougher than others, but all are in the realm of possibility. Open up the check book and land one of them. If we can’t do that then we’re in big trouble and it won’t really matter who we get. 

[coonhounds]

Give it up Treesh.
Do you really think waiting one year, five years, or 25 years will all of the sudden make Brad Stevens or Billy Donovan want to coach at IU? If you do, tell me what will be different next March.
We need a coach...now.

Yes and one more year of archie would have been a disaster for indiana basketball.

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[darB s'tI]

5 minutes ago, NVFalcons1990 said:

To me you go all out on our dream coaches then go down a tier:

Tier 1: Brad Stevens, Billy Donovan, Jay Wright, Tony Bennett, Mark Few, Bill Self

Tier 2: Chris Beard, Nate Oates, Scott Drew, Eric Musselman, Mike White, Andy Enfield, Mick Cronin, Mike Boynton, Porter Moser, Chris Mack 

Tier 3: Thad Matta, John Beilein, Rick Pitino, Steve Alford, Steve Lavin, Mark Pope, Dane Fife, Calbert Cheaney, Scott Skikes, Mike Woodson

I like this list but feel like Matta's a proven 2 and is still young. His track record is very strong. Do you think Self could get away with the same crap he does at Kansas in Bloomington? The wind blows wrong and we're in trouble. His kids show up in Lambo/Ferrari/whatever luxury sportscar it was and nada.

[NVFalcons1990]

Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

No mid-major coaches. No assistant coaches. Here’s a list.

Scott Drew

Eric Musselman

Chris Beard

Nate Oats

Chris Mack

Thad Matta

John Beilein

Seven coaches. None of them are impossible gets. Some would be tougher than others, but all are in the realm of possibility. Open up the check book and land one of them. If we can’t do that then we’re in big trouble and it won’t really matter who we get. 

For me, take away Chris Mack and replace with Mike White from Florida

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I would love to see what Mark Few could do in a real conference.
  His worst season ever:    23-11........just WOW

He was my #1 when we hired Crean. Man, I would have loved to see that.


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[Trish]

Just now, coonhounds said:

Yes and one more year of archie would have been a disaster for indiana basketball.

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Could’ve fired Archie after the third game and name an interim. 
 

Research and back channel for an entire season. Boom! Maybe Scott did that this time but some coaches would probably not like that with a head coach already in place..

[Trish]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

No mid-major coaches. No assistant coaches. Here’s a list.

Scott Drew

Eric Musselman

Chris Beard

Nate Oats

Chris Mack

Thad Matta

John Beilein

Seven coaches. None of them are impossible gets. Some would be tougher than others, but all are in the realm of possibility. Open up the check book and land one of them. If we can’t do that then we’re in big trouble and it won’t really matter who we get. 

I think one of those names is legit possible. The others? Not so much. 

[Stuhoo]

Just now, Treesh said:

I think one of those names is legit possible. The others? Not so much. 

That’s not much, eh?

[NVFalcons1990]

Just now, IU-DL said:

I like this list but feel like Matta's a proven 2 and is still young. His track record is very strong. Do you think Self could get away with the same crap he does at Kansas in Bloomington? The wind blows wrong and we're in trouble. His kids show up in Lambo/Ferrari/whatever luxury sportscar it was and nada.

I agree with you.....I think hiring Matta makes sense, but was just trying to take the "feel of this room".  No one has a better winning percentage than Matta (.740) except for Mark Few (.834), hell even Pitino is only (.702), Musselman (.705), Tony Bennett (.728), Chris Beard (.711), Matt Painter as a companion is (.661)