Ooooook who’s your # 2?

[Feathery]

10 minutes ago, BayernFan said:

I’m thinking it would be Smart before Alford  

 

Maybe. I’m not a Alford fan. If it’s Smart, then get him some college coaches as assistants to help with that transition. 

[IU Prof]

12 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

It's mainly the fact that he's a sleezebag, looks like a used car salesman, and allowed (and kept on staff) an assistant who threatened to deport a recruit. Other than that - bring him on. Dude can coach. 

Not sure Dolson can go from a clean-cut guy like Brad Stevens to Scott Drew.

I get the recruit deportation thing, not a great look. But aside from that, what has he done? There haven't been any major sanctions against the program under his watch. 

Edited March 20, 2021 by IU Prof

[mdiu28]

2 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

I get the recruit deportation thing, not a great look. But aside from that, what has he done? There haven't been any major sanctions against the program under his watch. 

He hasn't done anything wrong. I was mainly joking. 

I'd love Drew. There have been conflicting reports in the media (I know, I know). Some say he'd be heavily interested, others say he wouldn't even talk to us. If the boosters are running the show, I think it's a long shot and that's part of the problem at IU right now. 

[Trish]

I’m losing hope. We won’t get any news this weekend but still. 

[JSHoosier]

We could take a shot in the dark (with a hope and a prayer) and throw the alleged Stevens offer toward Wright, pipe dream though.

My second is Beard.  After Stevens though there's not really someone I'm sold on as a 20 year guy or would give 7 mil to.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Catching up on overnight posts and saw a string related to Jay Wright.  Great coach and a sharp dresser.  In all of his years in coaching, he's only spent 2 years west of  the Appalachians and at age 60, I don't see him leaving the east coast for the midwest.  I'm not implying his age is a hindrance to coaching merely that at that age, I think he's less likely to want to start over in a completely different culture, i.e., east coast vs. midwest.  And he's already got a pretty good gig at 'Nova.

[tomallenfan1]

I believe we need to offer Few, Wright, and Bennett the $7 mil deal and make them say no. Obviously, this would have to be back-channeled from Dolson so that word isn’t getting out that we actually “are” that desperate.

The Hail Mary often doesn’t work out, but Dolson may be our Aaron Rodgers.

If/When they say no then we move to Beard/Beilein/Oats/Drew crowd (whichever Dolson has on his short list).

[Banksyrules]

9 minutes ago, tomallenfan1 said:

I believe we need to offer Few, Wright, and Bennett the $7 mil deal and make them say no. Obviously, this would have to be back-channeled from Dolson so that word isn’t getting out that we actually “are” that desperate.

The Hail Mary often doesn’t work out, but Dolson may be our Aaron Rodgers.

If/When they say no then we move to Beard/Beilein/Oats/Drew crowd (whichever Dolson has on his short list).

It doesn’t hurt to try

[HoosierTrav]

56 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

This board is really sleeping on Scott Drew. The rebuild he undertook at Baylor was beyond anything anyone has ever taken on before. And he built it into a national power. 

I get people think he's sleezy, but the NCAA has been all over that program and never found anything meaningful that he's done wrong.

Plus he's an Indiana guy to boot.

If Drew wants the job, give it to him. I’m a little concerned that our options aren’t what we originally thought they’d be. I personally like Beard the most. I think he absolutely murders it at Indiana. 

[HoosierFan1994]

1) Beard

2) Drew

3) Musselman

4) Beilein 

[IUc2016]

1) Beard
2) Drew
3) Musselman
4) Beilein 

If we get one of those, I’ll be fine. Each has their flaws but so does every coach.

C’mon Scott, there is still a lot of opportunity to get this done. Go Hoosiers.


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[HoosierFan1994]

Just now, IUc2016 said:

If we get one of those, I’ll be fine. Each has their flaws but so does every coach.

C’mon Scott, there is still a lot of opportunity to get this done. Go Hoosiers.


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I'm not going to address what happened yesterday, but I find it hard to believe that the IU brass doesn't have a plan B or C or even D. I think it's one of these four. 

[ziggyiu]

For @Chris007 and @ISP and @IUwins0708 and all of the other insiders, I'm curious to learn if Dolson and the bag men are still fighting for Brad, or, if they've moved on, who they've moved on to. Are the decision makers bound and determined to make IU great and spend the same money on another coach? For example, are they willing to approach Billy D. and throw all the money at him -- despite his new gig with the Bulls -- to exhaust every option? 

[rayl456]

48 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Catching up on overnight posts and saw a string related to Jay Wright.  Great coach and a sharp dresser.  In all of his years in coaching, he's only spent 2 years west of  the Appalachians and at age 60, I don't see him leaving the east coast for the midwest.  I'm not implying his age is a hindrance to coaching merely that at that age, I think he's less likely to want to start over in a completely different culture, i.e., east coast vs. midwest.  And he's already got a pretty good gig at 'Nova.

Yeah...2 NCAA titles... and you have to imagine that he's been approached and turned down offers.  As you say, he's got a good thing going at Villanova.

[darB s'tI]

Just now, ziggyiu said:

For @Chris007 and @ISP and @IUwins0708 and all of the other insiders, I'm curious to learn if Dolson and the bag men are still fighting for Brad, or, if they've moved on, who they've moved on to. Are the decision makers bound and determined to make IU great and spend the same money on another coach? For example, are they willing to approach Billy D. and throw all the money at him -- despite his new gig with the Bulls -- to exhaust every option? 

Great question. I still have hope but don't know why. I don't understand Boston paying Brad all that money with the situation Boston is in. I also don't understand IU meeting the back-and-forth demands of a professional and then having said professional go back on his reported word to get a raise at his current job. Tacky if true. If you know a donor/donors stepped up for you specificall, and you gave your word, you keep your word. If....

[mdiu28]

28 minutes ago, ziggyiu said:

For @Chris007 and @ISP and @IUwins0708 and all of the other insiders, I'm curious to learn if Dolson and the bag men are still fighting for Brad, or, if they've moved on, who they've moved on to. Are the decision makers bound and determined to make IU great and spend the same money on another coach? For example, are they willing to approach Billy D. and throw all the money at him -- despite his new gig with the Bulls -- to exhaust every option? 

If Brad indeed said no, I hope Dolson moves on and shuts the door. As a man who's been rejected by the fairer sex plenty of times in my lifetime, I can tell you people want what they can't have. Continually throwing ourselves at someone who has said no shows what little respect we have for ourselves and IU. In short - we'd look pathetic. Get it out there that we've moved on and plenty of other out there want the job and will take it and maybe he thinks twice. 

If his season continues this way, the noise in Boston will get louder and louder and he may have a change of heart pretty quickly.

[Bankshot]

Context…2 weeks ago we were just hoping that Miller would be fired so we could seek a better coach to move the program forward. I think we would, at that point, have been very happy with several of the guys below as significant improvements. If Dolson has big money available and is willing to go big, why not march down a list similar to this one?

In terms of desirability, being ’proven’, and fit; not perceived availability...

1) Donovan, 2 NCAA titles, NBA experience, conference titles

2) Wright, 2 NCAA titles, conference titles

3) Bennett, 1 NCAA title, ACC titles

4) Beard, 1 NCAA title game, conference titles, learned directly from the best (Knight)

5) Musselman, NBA experience, conference titles

6) Oats, conference titles, style of play, up and comer

7) Matta, if healthy, 2 final fours, conference titles

8) Beilein, 2 final fours, conference titles

Others are purposefully not included as likely not being good fits (Pitino, Pearl, Calipari, Sampson, etc.)

Even if you ended up with Beard, Mussleman, Oats, or Matta, for example, it seems like a clear improvement over where we were two weeks ago.

[LamarCheeks]

52 minutes ago, ziggyiu said:

For @Chris007 and @ISP and @IUwins0708 and all of the other insiders, I'm curious to learn if Dolson and the bag men are still fighting for Brad, or, if they've moved on, who they've moved on to. Are the decision makers bound and determined to make IU great and spend the same money on another coach? For example, are they willing to approach Billy D. and throw all the money at him -- despite his new gig with the Bulls -- to exhaust every option? 

I'm not an insider, but I figure the ship has sailed on Billy the kid. When he and OKC parted ways last year, the Bulls snatched him up pretty quickly. If he had any interest in a return to college, he could have taken some time off to evaluate things and weigh any possible openings. But he dived right back into the NBA waters almost immediately. I think his days of college basketball are over. 

[Jam]

So disappointed that Brad appeared to use us to sweeten his Boston deal. I felt like he was the only transformational candidate that could make say a Hunter Solis, 5 star uncommitted guard that Kenya Hunter has a relationship with, Chet Holmgren, or transfer Dawson Garcia immediately take notice. Of course, there are other great coaches out there, but I am having trouble getting excited about them. I’m afraid Beard will leverage us for a sweeter deal and others may also. I threw out the name Eric Spoelstra. He makes about 3m and is possibly more highly regarded in the NBA than Brad. He would certainly fit the “modern basketball ‘’ criterion that Dolson mentioned. He just doesn’t have the Indiana connection that Brad had. I agree Archie had to go. He was a lame duck with no recruiting momentum. I hope we are not set up for a series of public courtships to end up with an up and comer that takes us 4 years to assess.

[jmsgws]

38 minutes ago, IU-DL said:

 I don't understand Boston paying Brad all that money with the situation Boston is in. I also don't understand IU meeting the back-and-forth demands of a professional and then having said professional go back on his reported word to get a raise at his current job. 

Everything you are saying is a wild @$$ guess.  Stevens just negotiated a contract extension in August.  There is no proof that we proposed doubling his salary, and that he went back to the Celtics and they doubled it, or there was a lot of back and forth and he kept asking for more.

I believe IU talked with his agent.  I believe IU agreed to everything he asked for.  Then I think Brad decided he liked the NBA more.  Maybe something will come out and convince me that Stevens played IU, but that is NOT the way the man has done anything before.  He has always seemed to be a strait shooter.  People don't usually go from being straightforward and honest to playing people off others.