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Can a mccolum come to Indiana and get 5 star players or recruit at a high level day 1? Cause that is what iu needs desperately. We could very easy do worse than we are now unlike so many on here believe imo

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5 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Can a mccolum come to Indiana and get 5 star players or recruit at a high level day 1? Cause that is what iu needs desperately. We could very easy do worse than we are now unlike so many on here believe imo

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Maybe not day 1 but once they see how he can coach and the NIL that IU can offer I don't think he will have any issue brining in top recruits.  Every coach has done it before.  How do you think Ballo, Rice, and Tucker wound up at IU?  It wasn't because of Woody's coaching.  They went to the highest bidder.

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5 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Can a mccolum come to Indiana and get 5 star players or recruit at a high level day 1? Cause that is what iu needs desperately. We could very easy do worse than we are now unlike so many on here believe imo

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I’m not his biggest fan but as I’ve said all over btown banners, every coach at IU has had dudes, and NIL makes that less of a concern to me.

Not to say that you just hire the best X&O guy, but that roster building, managing egos, philosophy, adaptability, etc. are more important, I think.

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6 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Can a mccolum come to Indiana and get 5 star players or recruit at a high level day 1? Cause that is what iu needs desperately. We could very easy do worse than we are now unlike so many on here believe imo

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We've gotten 5 stars in the Crean-Archie-Woodson eras and were still mediocre for the majority of that time, so I wouldn't be worried about a McCollum getting 5 star recruits right away.  If hired, I'd like him, or whomever is hired, to bring some high IQ basketball players with him.  Maybe a "dawg" or two

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18 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

paywall...summarize?

Zach Osterman describes these mid major coaches: Jerrod Calhoun (Utah St), Alan Huss (High Point), Ben McCollum (Drake), Bucky McMillan (Samford), Niko Medved (Col St), and Ryan Odom (VCU). I will say I was not terribly familiar with Medved but cool that he basically built three programs -- Furman from scratch, Drake was 7-24 the season before he arrived, and now basically from scratch at CSU. The crux of the article, though, is pretty basic -- there's some very good mid major coaches but the question mark for all is can you handle expectations, donors, alums, preferences for recruitment & style of play, big personalities, etc. 

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19 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

paywall...summarize?

Weird, it opened for me no problem.

Summary of the usual mid-major suspects: Calhoun, Huss, McCollum, McMillan, Medved and Odom. Nothing terribly enlightening but a nice primer for those who don’t live and breathe this stuff. Based purely on the inflection of it, Zach seems to like Medved a bit.

 

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1 minute ago, NVFalcons1990 said:

Have you guys seen the rumor on Reddit that says Will Sheehey is interviewing for a position with IU?


Post-playing career

Sheehey retired from playing in 2020. In September 2021 he joined the Golden State Warriors as a player development coach, and was part of the staff for the 2022 NBA Championship.[1]

Looks like the poster later deleted it, but it was up for 13 hours......

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13 minutes ago, hoosiersoxfan said:

Maybe not day 1 but once they see how he can coach and the NIL that IU can offer I don't think he will have any issue brining in top recruits.  Every coach has done it before.  How do you think Ballo, Rice, and Tucker wound up at IU?  It wasn't because of Woody's coaching.  They went to the highest bidder.

I think in this day to be successful you still have to look at fit and character.  Essentially normal basketball recruiting.  That's a big part to me of what Woodson lacked.  They still need to listen and a work ethic.  

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Just now, NVFalcons1990 said:

I do think a name that we aren't talking about is Alan Huss at High Point.....Now 57-14 at High Point, from Decatur Illinois, he's only 46 years old, played with Doug McDermott at Creighton 1997-2001 then worked under Dana Altman 6 years at Creighton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Huss

Sorry, he played with Kyle Korver......not the younger McDermott.  My bad on that one.

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IF IU is truly at the McCollum/Brownell level, I still think Chris Collins would be the better gamble.  Collins learned under Coach K at duke and has risen Northwestern from obscurity to respectable; which is really saying something give it is . . . well, Northwestern basketball.  When looking back at the most successful teams Collins has built there he certainly has not had the benefit of top recruits.  His best teams were exactly that, TEAMS that share the ball and run the offense Chris asks of them.  I think Chris is a very good X and O guy and given the NIL at IU I think he could do very well and perhaps even surprisingly well.
I agree I'd take collins over either if them.

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14 minutes ago, IUguy77 said:

You don’t need 5 stars to win ball games. 

Painter has proven that.

And there have been countless people over the years who have shown that the schools with the top recruiting classes don't necessarily win the national championship. There is a middle ground between getting a few elite recruits and finding guys who are glue guys in your system. 

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