General Coach Candidate News

[monskisprodigy 2,284]

For the first time in my life I am going to bet against the Hoosiers tonight...hedge my happiness. 

Win win either way....but feels so WRONG!

[LamarCheeks 22,025]

17 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

We're certainly a relatively small group as far as numbers go but I'll bet on the whole our collective views on candidates are a close match to the IU fanbase as a whole and Dolson would know that Alford would not be greeted with open arms by the masses despite his accomplishements as an IU player.

Four years ago with his "double-check plus" quote, Glass seemed to be calling out to Alford. I'm curious as to what happened? He said having IU ties, being from Indiana and having college head-coaching experience was what he was looking for. There's nobody else who fits that bill -- at least that I can think of. I wonder if he had in the back of his mind he was gonna pursue Alford, but got some backlash for myriad reasons -- namely, Alford's relatively average coaching record and his horrific handling of the Pierre Pierce situation?  

[rcbowla 8,214]

Mack, Beard, Drew are 3a, 3b, 3c to me.  I need to get in depth pros and cons to differentiate but I like them all.  

I'm not interested in Mack to be honest.

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[rcbowla 8,214]

I was interested initially not anymore

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[Unexpectedflash 1,664]

4 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

I was interested initially not anymore

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I feel the same way especially after looking up Louisville's stats for this year. Feels like going from one Archie to another if we go with Mack. 

[8bucks 7,498]

54 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said:

I am far from an insider, but my wife's family does know the Drew family quite well...although more Bryce and Homer than Scott.

I think I speak for everyone not named Treesh that we will take off the Purdue Jockstrap monicker if you get us good info on Drew. 

[rcbowla 8,214]

I feel the same way especially after looking up Louisville's stats for this year. Feels like going from one Archie to another if we go with Mack. 

Yep that's my thought. Maybe a better version but not sure that much better. I know this is probably an unpopular opinion.

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[Bowhunter 3,123]

I had no idea Irving was considering IU.

We were his number 2


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[Bowhunter 3,123]

It was well known that Crean almost had Kyrie. Our assistant coach McLeod when asked by Kyrie’s parents where would he send him. He told them he would go to Duke .

 

 

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[IUHAHN81 3,309]

Let's say we miraculously land Steven's. Whats our 1st 5 years look like with him as coach? Results wise im sayin'.

[Hovadipo 61,335]

Just now, IUHAHN81 said:

Let's say we miraculously land Steven's. Whats our 1st 5 years look like with him as coach? Results wise im sayin'.

Those 5 banners in the north end are going to have 5 brothers and sisters to hang with. 

[Unexpectedflash 1,664]

1. Stevens

2. Drew

3a/3b. Oats/Musselman

4. Beilein 

5. Mark Pope 

Just based off of style of play and personality I think these are my top 6. I've looked a lot at Kenpom efficiency numbers the last few weeks to try and judge who is a good candidate. Mark Pope is someone that really stood out the last two years when going through that. If we had done that with Archie and compared it with say Holtmann I would've given Holtmann the edge pretty easily. I'm tired of this grind it out basketball that we play. All of the guys on my list have shown the ability to coach modern offenses and are adaptable to the players they have. There's some projection with Oats but I really do think he'll be one of the best coaches in college basketball going forward. He's extremely smart and adaptable and he has the personality needed to succeed at this job. 

I don't think Beard is realistic because he already makes so much at Tech. I know Matta is on a lot of people's lists but it's just been so long since he's had a good team that he feels like a big risk. Mack is a better version of Archie but a lot of the things we complain about Archie's system are things that he also employs. Just look at a Louisville forum and it looks exactly like ours did in year 2 and 3 of Archie. 

[lillurk 5,024]

9 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said:

Let's say we miraculously land Steven's. Whats our 1st 5 years look like with him as coach? Results wise im sayin'.

I think realistically IU retains most of the candidates to return on this team except TJD and maybe another transfer. He would bring lots of excitement and probably recruiting success — easy to sell Heyward/Smart/Tatum/Kemba/Brown development and NBA experience. So I’d expect all that to mean IU would be a tough out next year and a solid tourney team — maybe a 7-10 seed.

After that it would be much less easy to be specific but he’s one of the guys who puts you in plenty of national recruits’ minds, is up against Juwan Howard on the trail for the Midwest’s best, and brings a willingness to learn with strong schemes on both sides of the ball. We’d shoot many more threes and expect even bigs to step out and hit when open.

He’s one of a small # of guys where I’d EXPECT IU to genuinely compete for a final 4 pretty quickly — compete for, not guarantee they’d make it.

[lillurk 5,024]

I’d add that to Stevens is GREAT at putting the ball in the hands of his best players regardless of position. Putting role players in spots they can succeed, too. Those have...not been strengths recently at IU.

[triple 450]

7 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

1. Stevens

2. Drew

3a/3b. Oats/Musselman

4. Beilein 

5. Mark Pope 

 

I concur with the first four in the same order.  I'd also concur that Oats may eventually prove to be the best of the bunch.  In a broad range of circumstances he's been very successful to date.  I have a sneaking suspicion that Beilein will retire in a few years, otherwise I'd be fine with him.  Pope is new to my radar.

[darB s'tI 1,819]

18 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

1. Stevens

2. Drew

3a/3b. Oats/Musselman

4. Beilein 

5. Mark Pope 

Just based off of style of play and personality I think these are my top 6. I've looked a lot at Kenpom efficiency numbers the last few weeks to try and judge who is a good candidate. Mark Pope is someone that really stood out the last two years when going through that. If we had done that with Archie and compared it with say Holtmann I would've given Holtmann the edge pretty easily. I'm tired of this grind it out basketball that we play. All of the guys on my list have shown the ability to coach modern offenses and are adaptable to the players they have. There's some projection with Oats but I really do think he'll be one of the best coaches in college basketball going forward. He's extremely smart and adaptable and he has the personality needed to succeed at this job. 

I don't think Beard is realistic because he already makes so much at Tech. I know Matta is on a lot of people's lists but it's just been so long since he's had a good team that he feels like a big risk. Mack is a better version of Archie but a lot of the things we complain about Archie's system are things that he also employs. Just look at a Louisville forum and it looks exactly like ours did in year 2 and 3 of Archie. 

I still like Matta as a quality option if healthy. His track record is very strong minus the very last year he was at OSU. Never even had a season under 20 wins.

[LamarCheeks 22,025]

43 minutes ago, Bowhunter said:

We were his number 2


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Security cam footage of that day (why the Irvings had a security camera in their bathroom is beyond me, though ...)

[Trish 14,463]

2 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Security cam footage of that day (why the Irvings had a security camera in their bathroom is beyond me, though ...)

Real life video or Archie if we lose tonight. 

[FritzIam4IU 366]

1 hour ago, 8bucks said:

I think I speak for everyone not named Treesh that we will take off the Purdue Jockstrap monicker if you get us good info on Drew. 

Last I heard...Drew would come to IU if they made a serious offer to him. I have not heard much the past week or so, however. My take is that if IU seriously wants Scott, they could most likely get him.

[Wavychips 17]

Wow no welcome post but that’s ok. Just happy to be somewhere where Alford, Wittman, and Fife are not seen as home run hires. Let’s lose tonight and start the fun 

@AKHoosier

Edited March 12, 2021 by Wavychips