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[coonhounds 10,543]

We did that four years ago and it didn’t work. Scott doing that again seems risky on his career and the future of IU basketball.  

There are no right young coaches out there. We thought we had one with Archie. It looked good and checked all the boxes. Unless it’s an IU young guy, I don’t see it. 

 

Just because archie failed miserably doesn't mean the next person will. His brother cheated to the absolute max we have found out at he couldn't win big. Maybe just maybe we need to realize archie is bad perhaps maybe really bad but at minimum worse than crean bad and move on.  

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[maharkn 1,945]

New to the board here .... but I know IU Athletics is tens of millions (40-60 million from what I've heard) in the hole this season with no butts in the seats.  They'll get some money from hosting the tourney but not sure it's going to be enough to make up for the massive loss.  
That being said, they did just upgrade Coach Allen, so, what do I know about finances? :)
 

For sure but every little bit helps. Everything in the consession stands $100,000 should do the trick

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[Trish 14,463]

2 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Just because archie failed to the miserably doesn't mean the next person will. His brother cheated to the absolute max we have found out at he couldn't win big. Maybe just maybe we need to realize archie is bad perhaps maybe really bad but at minimum worse than crean bad and move on.

 

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Trusting in another mid major guy would be a bad look on the program. The fans are lost at this point. Fans want a big name. They see the headlines with mid major and IU hire than the fans are going to continue to drop off. 

[coonhounds 10,543]

Trusting in another mid major guy would be a bad look on the program. The fans are lost at this point. Fans want a big name. They see the headlines with mid major and IU hire than the fans are going to continue to drop off. 

Screw us the fans especially the one's who proclaim mid major equals failure. Truth is if we are winning all those fans will be back plus bandwagon fans also. Just hire the right guy regardless where you find him and everything will be alright.

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[lillurk 5,024]

1 minute ago, Treesh said:

Trusting in another mid major guy would be a bad look on the program. The fans are lost at this point. Fans want a big name. They see the headlines with mid major and IU hire than the fans are going to continue to drop off. 

I’ve tried to make this point a lot, but there were signs before the hire that Archie’s reputation outpaced his actual prospects. I know he was the hottest young coach but the folks who make those lists like stories, and Arch was a good story: his time as a player, family of coaches, beat his mentor on a run to an Elite 8, so on.

This is one of the reasons I would value advanced metrics and discount tournament success a bit. His best offensive efficiency at Dayton was in his first two years; as offense got better across the country his diminished relatively. His best defense there was good, but his reputation far outpaced the performance of every season but 2015-16 on D.

Even the team that went to the E8 ended the year at 42 on Kenpom. It’s hard to get that far into the tournament without climbing quite a bit because you’re beating tournament-quality teams.

[Trish 14,463]

8 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Screw us the fans especially the one's who proclaim mid major equals failure. Truth is if we are winning all those fans will be back plus bandwagon fans also. Just hire the right guy regardless where you find him and everything will be alright.

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Right guy is results in 2 years or a big name out of the gate. It’s a tall task to ask IU fans to be patient with another mid major hire. 

[NashvilleHoosier 3,898]

1 hour ago, HoosierAloha said:

Is one of them BS? If so, he can stay.
 

If they're full of BS, they'll fit right in with the lot of us. Welcome, noobs. 

[FritzIam4IU 366]

Long time lurker and poster on HSN...I finally signed up for an account. I enjoyed reading your informative posts.

[coonhounds 10,543]

Right guy is results in 2 years or a big name out of the gate. It’s a tall task to ask IU fans to be patient with another mid major hire. 

Were not going to be patient with anyone at this point. Whoever the person is they better be ready to win or have a well layed out plan to succeed that the fans can see. Archie had the talk and a plan and most of us bought in it just never panned out

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[Class of '66 Old Fart 90,047]

2 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said:

Long time lurker and poster on HSN...I finally signed up for an account. I enjoyed reading your informative posts.

All these new posters  --  are we giving away free stuff?  Glad to have you join us Fritz and hope to see you as an active poster.

[FritzIam4IU 366]

Just to be transparent...I really wanted to believe in CAM and believed he could succeed here until about 2 weeks ago. I think the Rutgers game was the straw that broke the proverbial camels back for me. I saw IUs chances of making the NCAA tourney crashing down. I am now of the opinion that a change is needed. My top (somewhat) realistic candidates:

1. Brad Stevens ( I know...extreme long shot but hey, I can dream)

2. Chris Beard

3. Scott Drew

4. Chris Mack (if the rumors are true he has expressed interest...which I am doubtful he would jump ship from Louisville)

5. Musselman (more of a risk than I would prefer but I think he could be good)

I am a little leery of Matta's health and Beilen's age

Go Hoosiers!

[FritzIam4IU 366]

3 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

All these new posters  --  are we giving away free stuff?  Glad to have you join us Fritz and hope to see you as an active poster.

I like free swag.

[Stuhoo 88,842]

10 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said:

Long time lurker and poster on HSN...I finally signed up for an account. I enjoyed reading your informative posts.

 

WHOSE informative posts?

I'm guessing Stromboli.

 

[FritzIam4IU 366]

4 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

All these new posters  --  are we giving away free stuff?  Glad to have you join us Fritz and hope to see you as an active poster.

I'm not sure how I feel about being labeled "Purdue Jockstrap" ha, but thanks for the welcome. I have posted on last two HSN boards and have frequented this site as well as it is the only other board I feel has a good temperament and civil IU discussions. 

[Chris007 61,979]

5 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

All these new posters  --  are we giving away free stuff?  Glad to have you join us Fritz and hope to see you as an active poster.

Does any of them know Brad Stevens? Heck does any of them know Scott Dolson? Does any of them know me?

[FritzIam4IU 366]

Just now, Chris007 said:

Does any of them know Brad Stevens? Heck does any of them know Scott Dolson? Does any of them know me?

I am far from an insider, but my wife's family does know the Drew family quite well...although more Bryce and Homer than Scott.

[Chris007 61,979]

4 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said:

Just to be transparent...I really wanted to believe in CAM and believed he could succeed here until about 2 weeks ago. I think the Rutgers game was the straw that broke the proverbial camels back for me. I saw IUs chances of making the NCAA tourney crashing down. I am now of the opinion that a change is needed. My top (somewhat) realistic candidates:

1. Brad Stevens ( I know...extreme long shot but hey, I can dream)

2. Chris Beard

3. Scott Drew

4. Chris Mack (if the rumors are true he has expressed interest...which I am doubtful he would jump ship from Louisville)

5. Musselman (more of a risk than I would prefer but I think he could be good)

I am a little leery of Matta's health and Beilen's age

Go Hoosiers!

I think there are multiple people out of the seven you name that would talk to and listen to what IU had to say. 

[FritzIam4IU 366]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I think there are multiple people out of the seven you name that would talk to and listen to what IU had to say. 

I would be very happy with Scott, although I wonder if Dolson would reach out to him since the Hanner Perea incident. Thanks for the warm welcomes!

[Unexpectedflash 1,664]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think there are multiple people out of the seven you name that would talk to and listen to what IU had to say. 

I think most would be happy if we actually got one of those seven. I'm still a little leery on Mack after reading more about him and his system. I can't handle more Archie ball. I'd add Oats to it even if his extension makes it less likely. I really hope whoever is our next coach plays a more exciting brand of basketball. 

[Trish 14,463]

6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

WHOSE informative posts?

I'm guessing Stromboli.

 

Mine. He likes my positive attitude towards Archie! ;)