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4 minutes ago, IUrocker said:

So if it is said that once we lose Archie will be done, is it safe to say at this point Dolson has his replacement lined up? Or will he still be working on it? 

I'd guess he's still working on it unless their is something surprising going on behind the scenes. 

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5 minutes ago, IUrocker said:

So if it is said that once we lose Archie will be done, is it safe to say at this point Dolson has his replacement lined up? Or will he still be working on it? 

If Scott is going to fire Archie without a good idea of who the next coach is then we're screwed. 

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8 minutes ago, VO5 said:

Candidates aside, Dolson has to see how much of a dumpster fire it would be to retain Archie. I’ve never seen the fanbase more done with a coach because of results. This is one of, if not the, worst 4 year stretches in our entire history. To retain him would tell me Dolson has no pulse on this program and that he’s just another yes man. It would get soooo ugly. I just don’t see how he stays. 

I don’t know anyone who’s still riding with Archie at this point. I had friends who still wanted Crean at the end of the 2017 season. Most wanted him gone but he still had a solid contingent supporting him. Archie, though, has no one. No results to point to. He just has his buyout. 

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2 minutes ago, Treesh said:

If Scott is going to fire Archie without a good idea of who the next coach is then we're screwed. 

There's no way CAM is getting canned with no solid replacement lined up. That would only be the case, in my opinion, if CAM had a violation and they had to get rid of him immediately. Succession planning probably started 4 weeks ago if Dolson is doing his job.

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Just now, Stuhoo said:

 

Strongly disagree. It'd be better if he had a great candidate lined up, but no one is a guarantee and if it's time, it's time.

 

yeah I would say this rarely happens where a candidate is lined up. Now I think Dolson needs to have an idea of interest level from potential candidates. But nobody is going to be a guarantee until there is an actual opening and real discussions happen. 

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5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Strongly disagree. It'd be better if he had a great candidate lined up, but no one is a guarantee and if it's time, it's time.

 

Agreed, and the clock is well past midnight. I’m beginning to agree with Treesh that you may see a “mutual agreement to part ways” with a reduced buyout instead of an outright “firing”. It would be better optics for all parties involved. 

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9 minutes ago, Treesh said:

If Scott is going to fire Archie without a good idea of who the next coach is then we're screwed. 

Nah, fire him right now.  We'd be more competitive next year if we picked a new coach out of the stands for each game

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Only reason I asked if Dolson already has someone lined up is because if it was a matter of Archie coming out saying himself he wanted out, Dolson could have not had someone lineup up yet when those discussions were made...so if Archie walks, I would wonder if Dolson had to then start talking to candidates. I just figured that’d be different than Dolson knowing he’s firing him and has already lined up who he wants. I guess that would all depend on if Chris007 thinks he’s getting fired or mutually agreeing to walk, based off him thinking his next loss will be his last game. 

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4 minutes ago, IU-DL said:

There's no way CAM is getting canned with no solid replacement lined up. That would only be the case, in my opinion, if CAM had a violation and they had to get rid of him immediately. Succession planning probably started 4 weeks ago if Dolson is doing his job.

False. Very few cases does a school have someone lined up. They could be in talks but nothing will be finalized. Especially if their targets are still coaching in conference tournaments or the NCAA tournament. If they are hiring someone in the NBA or not coaching that makes things easier in the sense that those guys would be more likely to openly negotiate. 

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8 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Strongly disagree. It'd be better if he had a great candidate lined up, but no one is a guarantee and if it's time, it's time.

 

I meant it as he needs to have a good idea of who is actually possible. Speaking to people and agents. If we're firing Archie and hiring a mid-major coach no one has mentioned here then why are we firing Archie?

Homework before the Test. 

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Not sure if it's been discussed, but how would you all feel about CAM getting fired, and one of the assistants being named interim (either for next season, or just until we get our guy)?  Not advocating for or against, just trying to add a variable to the discussion. 

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1 minute ago, mamasa said:

Not sure if it's been discussed, but how would you all feel about CAM getting fired, and one of the assistants being named interim (either for next season, or just until we get our guy)?  Not advocating for or against, just trying to add a variable to the discussion. 

It wouldn't bother me

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2 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Not sure if it's been discussed, but how would you all feel about CAM getting fired, and one of the assistants being named interim (either for next season, or just until we get our guy)?  Not advocating for or against, just trying to add a variable to the discussion. 

I’d be pretty against it. I don’t think anyone on our bench has head coaching chops for a Mid major, let alone IU. Would just be another lost year 

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1 minute ago, mamasa said:

Not sure if it's been discussed, but how would you all feel about CAM getting fired, and one of the assistants being named interim (either for next season, or just until we get our guy)?  Not advocating for or against, just trying to add a variable to the discussion. 

I think this could make the fan base angrier.

We can have people say anyone is better than Archie but firing Archie and not hiring at least a name people can Wikipedia. oh boy. 

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3 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Not sure if it's been discussed, but how would you all feel about CAM getting fired, and one of the assistants being named interim (either for next season, or just until we get our guy)?  Not advocating for or against, just trying to add a variable to the discussion. 

I have actually thought that is an option but then which assistant?  I think Ostrom is too close to Archie and therefore rules him out so IMO it's either Hunter or Roberts if that's a path Dolson would choose to follow.

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Not sure if it's been discussed, but how would you all feel about CAM getting fired, and one of the assistants being named interim (either for next season, or just until we get our guy)?  Not advocating for or against, just trying to add a variable to the discussion. 

I’m not sure it makes sense. We would be better off giving Archie approval to give it another year so we can keep recruiting and stay in the hunt. If the right guy is still in the wing for next season, we might as well let the buyout drop significantly. It’s not like Archie can’t coach, we just expected better results.


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