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I think the May extension sheds some light on the search imo. I don’t think May signs his “low ball” extension if IU was after him. I think he would have got a lot more money if he could leverage an IU offer. 
Which tells me that Dolson either has his guy or he is still in discussions with guys he rates above May. Who those coaches are, I’m unsure. But there are many coaches I’d rather have before going to May, if the money was available for buyouts. Sounds like we have money to spend so….
May also took a $1 mil raise, still less than Archie at IU 8 years ago. And the buyout is still low at $7.5 mil. So he says he is staying at Michigan because he doesn’t have an IU offer. He also couldn’t leverage IU interest bc Dolson isn’t there yet and possibly won’t be. But if plans fall through May has a manageable buyout for IU to get him if their top options do not pan out. 
 
I don’t believe all the top tier options have been exhausted yet. In Dolson I trust and I think IU will be in good hands moving forward with whoever they hire because it will not be someone like Brownell or McCollom. It will be with someone who has a track record of success. 

I have posted this already and got destroyed for it but will try again. Dusty would be a huge gamble for both parties and I believe that is a much bigger factor than posters on here give credit. He has a good thing going at michigan. To think if he left that after 1 year and came to a conference rival the pressure to succeed would be insane. If iu stole may and he struggled here everyone would have open eyes as to why that would be. Imo neither party would wa t to take that risk imo. I doubt we pursued may very hard if at all behind the scenes.

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33 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Nope.   do people that hate Tom Brady know him personally?   It’s not that deep.   I don’t like him therefore I don’t want him coaching the team I’m invested in 

YEP, The same way I've felt about Calipari and a few others just like him.While it seems in today's game anything is legal character should still be a thing.

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1 hour ago, RoadRage said:

Cronin is the popular choice of “a lot” of people on this forum. Just read through past pages and you will find them. Even Indy Star’s Doyle is pushing Cronin, the other names you may be right about, but there are people on this forum that have shown support for guys like Brownell and Pitino. I am still hoping for an elite proven coach, but the Cronin talk is very real and I would be very disappointed if that is the direction we go.

He finished 12th in the coaching Sweet 16 poll(13th if you add in Brad Stevens), so he is far from a "popular choice by a lot of people." He is being discussed at length due to the inordinate amount of dislike he gets compared to his coaching record. He is at best 7th on my list but would be the best coach by leaps and bounds since Kelvin Sampson, if IU were to hire him.

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5 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I have posted this already and got destroyed for it but will try again. Dusty would be a huge gamble for both parties and I believe that is a much bigger factor than posters on here give credit. He has a good thing going at michigan. To think if he left that after 1 year and came to a conference rival the pressure to succeed would be insane. If iu stole may and he struggled here everyone would have open eyes as to why that would be. Imo neither party would wa t to take that risk imo. I doubt we pursued may very hard if at all behind the scenes.

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If pressure is keeping him from coming to IU then no one should want him. We need a coach that wants to be here. We need a coach with the passion and love for IU basketball that Crean had, just with better coaching abilities. If Dusty would rather stay at the football school where basketball will always be the lil brother purely bc it's more comfortable, safer, and gives him a warm, fuzzy feeling - then I don't want him here. We need someone with some damn balls.

That's why some love Beard. That's why some love Bruce Pearl. That's why some can get on board with Buzz Williams. No more nice guy attitude and you know what they say about nice guys... 

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1 minute ago, iu eyedoc said:

He finished 12th in the coaching Sweet 16 poll(13th if you add in Brad Stevens), so he is far from a "popular choice by a lot of people." He is being discussed at length due to the inordinate amount of dislike he gets compared to his coaching record. He would be the best coach by leaps and bounds since Kelvin Sampson, if IU were to hire him.

And Sampson only had an elite 8 and final four before coming to IU with a lot of first weekend exits.  

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3 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

If pressure is keeping him from coming to IU then no one should want him. We need a coach that wants to be here. We need a coach with the passion and love for IU basketball that Crean had, just with better coaching abilities. If Dusty would rather stay at the football school where basketball will always be the lil brother purely bc it's more comfortable and safer, then I don't want him here. We need someone with some damn balls. 

This.  If he's worried about the pressure, or what if he fails, he doesn't belong from the get go.  

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4 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

He finished 12th in the coaching Sweet 16 poll(13th if you add in Brad Stevens), so he is far from a "popular choice by a lot of people." He is being discussed at length due to the inordinate amount of dislike he gets compared to his coaching record. He is at best 7th on my list but would be the best coach by leaps and bounds since Kelvin Sampson, if IU were to hire him.

Every time someone says this and I breathe a sigh of relief, 5 more posts show up saying he would be a good choice. I hope and pray he isn’t our next coach, but if he is I will support him!

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If pressure is keeping him from coming to IU then no one should want him. We need a coach that wants to be here. We need a coach with the passion and love for IU basketball that Crean had, just with better coaching abilities. If Dusty would rather stay at the football school where basketball will always be the lil brother purely bc it's more comfortable and safer, then I don't want him here. We need someone with some damn balls. 

I agree but this wouldn't be normal pressure of just the iu job. This is because we waited a year and he is having success at michigan. That makes this situation way worse. The fans and national media would be all over it imo and I doubt either party wanted to deal with it. Just imagine the michigan game next season. No reason to for either party to go through that. Dusty is probably thrilled to be at a school like michigan and looking like the future is bright. Iu can hopefully find a better coach than Dusty? Hopefully lol

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Cronin would get IU back to a place it really hasn’t been in my 30 year lifetime. Hes not my top choice, but we can (and likely will, imo) do a whole lot worse. 

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Cronin would get IU back to a place it really hasn’t been in my 30 year lifetime. Hes not my top choice, but we can (and likely will, imo) do a whole lot worse. 

Steven's will not be worse! I have to trust the insiders!

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2 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I agree but this wouldn't be normal pressure of just the iu job. This is because we waited a year and he is having success at michigan. That makes this situation way worse. The fans and national media would be all over it imo and I doubt either party wanted to deal with it. Just imagine the michigan game next season. No reason to for either party to go through that. Dusty is probably thrilled to be at a school like michigan and looking like the future is bright. Iu can hopefully find a better coach than Dusty? Hopefully lol

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If Dolson thought Dusty was the answer he would have fired Woody at the end of last season….

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2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Cronin would get IU back to a place it really hasn’t been in my 30 year lifetime. Hes not my top choice, but we can (and likely will, imo) do a whole lot worse. 

Just curious, who are your top 3 if you don’t mind sharing?

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2 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

If Dolson thought Dusty was the answer he would have fired Woody at the end of last season….

Sure.

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3 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

If Dolson thought Dusty was the answer he would have fired Woody at the end of last season….

I choose to believe he wanted to...

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3 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

Just curious, who are your top 3 if you don’t mind sharing?

Drew, McCasland, Pearl 

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1 hour ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

I think, assuming IU and Stevens are talking, that it's more than likely there are attempts to stop leaks and throw off the scent.  Every time we have an opening, Stevens' name pops up early at the top of everybody's hot board.  I'm sure people can understand why neither our current team nor current coach need that distraction, especially when they are still fighting for an NCAA Tournament bid.  And I'm sure Stevens doesn't want it either.    

I agree.  Although we hate it, keeping things quiet is important until this deal is signed and delivered. There’s an interesting story along these lines regarding when Bob Knight was hired.

Some of you are aware of Rogers Group Crushed Stone in Bloomington. In the mid seventies Rick Rechter, the grandson of the founder Ralph Rogers, was the president of the Bloomington division of the company. There were two other brothers, also presidents in their respective divisions in Nashville Tn., and Louisville where I worked.  All three were big supporters of their respective universities, ie., IU, UL, and Vandy.

The story goes: Bob Knight was under consideration for the Wisconsin HC job a couple of years before he was hired by IU. It seems like he became angry when his name was mentioned in connection with the job and he withdrew.  So, when Knight was negotiating with IU his absolute requirement was he would not sign the deal until he was present at IU when it was announced. Rogers Group has a fleet of planes they use to get around to all their facilities.  So, ole Rick, supporter, donor and friend of Knight flew out to get him and brought him back for the announcement, and the rest is history.

I heard this when I was working there in the mid eighties. I do know several folks on my team caught a ride with Knight on their planes when we were moving around the divisions a lot.

However, whether the story is true or not, I do believe they are concerned with leaks messing up the deal which is why the word is getting out to quiet down.

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Maybe since we have a football team now we can stop being a fishbowl

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2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Drew, McCasland, Pearl 

Something we can agree on, Drew is my first choice too, unless Stevens is really in play. I also like Otzelberger.