General Coach Candidate News

[hoosiersoxfan]

1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

Archie couldn't handle the pressure. Sounds like ever may didn't want it. There are so many more things to this job then just getting it cause you won at division two. And this isn't a take your time rebuilt. He would need to win right away. Has he dealt with high level agents?

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I want to win right away, but I won't mind if we hire a good coach that builds the program up the right way and it takes 2 or 3 seasons to do that.

[Pagoda]

2 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Nobody gave a crap about football til now. The stadium was half full most games.

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You’re missing the point.  It’s the only college sport that really matters and IU needs to be decent at it or else our athletic dept will struggle to compete financially with the rest of the conference.

There is more to IU athletics than just winning bball games.

[Hoosier987]

4 minutes ago, HoosierHuddle said:

Losing the majority of his players? 

-MO Valley player of the year Bennett Stirtz - JR

-2nd and 3rd leading scorers will both be gone

-4th leading scorer Tavion Banks - JR

-5th leading scorer Cam Manyawu - SO

-6th leading scorer Isaia Howard - FR

-7th leading scorer Kael Combs - SO

So, of the top 7 scorers...two will be out of eligibility. Your questions are good ones but it's not accurate to say the majority of his players will be done.

OK. Let me be more specific. 3/5 or 60% of their starting lineup will be gone next year. That's a lot of production and minutes to replace. At this time... He would be a bad hire when we have so many other viable candidates. 

[IUGRAD06]

1 minute ago, ib4iu said:

We’re trying to find the next Billy Gillespie??? 

If you hire Beard, yes.  Pressure sucks.  Gillespie crumbled under it due to his dependencies on alcohol.  Indiana and Kentucky jobs are hard on people.  Not worth the risk.  That’s all I meant.  

[Hornsby]

You’re missing the point.  It’s the only college sport that really matters and IU needs to be decent at it or else our athletic dept will struggle to compete financially with the rest of the conference.
There is more to IU athletics than just winning bball games.

Point is the bbal program is in no position anymore to be taking a risk on an unproven first year d1 coach. Sure it's possible he works out but he could also flame out in a major way. There are plenty of names with proven track records who will most likely work out.

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[Stuhoo]

3 minutes ago, HoosierHuddle said:

Losing the majority of his players? 

-MO Valley player of the year Bennett Stirtz - JR

-2nd and 3rd leading scorers will both be gone

-4th leading scorer Tavion Banks - JR

-5th leading scorer Cam Manyawu - SO

-6th leading scorer Isaia Howard - FR

-7th leading scorer Kael Combs - SO

So, of the top 7 scorers...two will be out of eligibility. Your questions are good ones but it's not accurate to say the majority of his players will be done.

That's kind of deceptive; the 6th and 7th leading scorers for Drake are backup guards that average less than 4 ppg and less than 15 minutes per game.

Drake has four players that average over 20 minutes per game. Three of them will be out of eligibility.

[JHoosier914]

23 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

If McCollum ends up the coach at IU  anyone in the stands that wears a white dress shirt and red tie to match him  should get tossed automatically.   It was dumb when Maryland fans did it a couple years back and the Drake fans look dumb doing it now 

People did this with Sampson didn't they?  Blue shirt red tie?

[Ryno6284]

53 minutes ago, IUBtown said:

The things people make assumptions on without any evidence is mind blowing. 

Like @TheDMV being Ant Wright! Lol

Sorry Ant, couldn’t help myself!

[Hornsby]

If you hire Beard, yes.  Pressure sucks.  Gillespie crumbled under it due to his dependencies on alcohol.  Indiana and Kentucky jobs are hard on people.  Not worth the risk.  That’s all I meant.  

So let's hire a first year d1 guy because he is nice. I am sure he would have zero issues at all with the pressure one of the most pressure filled jobs in america. Plus are you sure he doesn't drink?

 

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[Hovadipo]

Just now, Hornsby said:

So let's hire a first year d1 guy because he is nice. I am sure he would have zero issues at all with the pressure of too jobnin America. You kill me.

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One of these times someone will change their mind when you say this. Keep truckin'.

[Crazy about IU]

20 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Again...to hire someone like this over a Chris Beard (who wants the job) or a Scott Drew, makes little sense. If Stevens fall through...fork in the road...which way are we going to choose. Time will tell. I trust Dolson to make the right decision. 

He has done better than any previous coach there. They never get out played very difficult place to recruit. I remember very few players who were five stars like zero. I have little doubt he would be very successful at IU. His coaching passes the eye test for me.

[JHoosier914]

17 minutes ago, P92 said:

Okay, I know nothing, but I’m going out on a limb here. Just read Bozich’s most recent column. I’ve been reading Bozich since he was with the Louisville Courier Journal way back in the 80s. I’ve found him to be discreet, trustworthy, and an IU guy—which means he is kind of a company guy like Don Fischer who has been able to cover IU through the years and not tick administration or Bobby Knight off back in the day. In said column,  He goes through all the names we’ve been discussing lately—(with no mention of BS). He gives all the positive and negatives of each—all well and good. Then he says he believes SD is gonna hire someone else, no one is talking about—not on the list he just gave. Okay, fine, some unknown guy? No—- he then describes this guy as a veteran coach looking for a new challenge to rebuild IU. Kent Sterling does a video and says the exact same thing. I know to take Bozich seriously and also know he is connected and values access and won’t cross the athletic department. In my mind, BS just went from a 1-2% likely to better than even odds. Here’s what I think. Reporters trusted by the AD know who the hire is—a small select number. And they’ve been asked to hold the story and just discuss other candidates until a set time—probably once senior day is done and the lights turned out in the Hall on Saturday. No more home games, no need to protect Woodson’s ego after that point. With the terrible risk of sounding like isaacTor, I guess—based on nothing but reading between the lines— that around 8 Saturday night Bozich and a handful of guys that are trusted in the AD will simultaneously start breaking stories about rumors of who this “veteran” coach is. I might be totally wrong, but I think “we got him.” Who else could this veteran guy be? 

I enjoy the narrative and seemed to be a well thought out opinion.  Hope you're right!

[IUGRAD06]

Just now, Hornsby said:

So let's hire a first year d1 guy because he is nice. I am sure he would have zero issues at all with the pressure of too jobnin America. You kill me.

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Are you brain dead? I literally said the biggest concern with him is recruiting at this level.  He is a great X and O guy.  Recruiting would be a concern.  I would hire him over Beard.  Lawsuits suck.  I wouldn’t want to get fired for the crap he is capable of.  

[Silat Player]

10 minutes ago, hoosiersoxfan said:

I want to win right away, but I won't mind if we hire a good coach that builds the program up the right way and it takes 2 or 3 seasons to do that.

I think everyone feels that way. The criticism that the fanbase receives about being irrationally impatient is completely unfounded. 

If the new coach doesn't succeed at a high level initially but shows progress and builds a solid programmtic base is being formed and demonstrates solid coaching chops, the fanbase will show patience. 

 

[TrueHoosier62]

All I know is that if Brad Stevens IS named the next basketball coach at IU, this site will explode like the last 30 seconds of a bukkake film.

[#1fanofafrin]

[Papacap]

3 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

I think everyone feels that way. The criticism that the fanbase receives about being irrationally impatient is completely unfounded. 

If the new coach doesn't succeed at a high level initially but shows progressand builds a solid programmtic base is being formed and demonstrates solid coaching chops, the fanbase will show patience. 

 

It depends on what you mean by build up. I don’t care who the coach is, missing the tournament next year would be a fail. I’m not saying we should be top 10 next year (it’d be nice) but in todays age with the portal and NIL, the time for years of building up a program are gone for top schools.

[HoosierHoopster]

22 minutes ago, P92 said:

Okay, I know nothing, but I’m going out on a limb here. Just read Bozich’s most recent column. I’ve been reading Bozich since he was with the Louisville Courier Journal way back in the 80s. I’ve found him to be discreet, trustworthy, and an IU guy—which means he is kind of a company guy like Don Fischer who has been able to cover IU through the years and not tick administration or Bobby Knight off back in the day. In said column,  He goes through all the names we’ve been discussing lately—(with no mention of BS). He gives all the positive and negatives of each—all well and good. Then he says he believes SD is gonna hire someone else, no one is talking about—not on the list he just gave. Okay, fine, some unknown guy? No—- he then describes this guy as a veteran coach looking for a new challenge to rebuild IU. Kent Sterling does a video and says the exact same thing. I know to take Bozich seriously and also know he is connected and values access and won’t cross the athletic department. In my mind, BS just went from a 1-2% likely to better than even odds. Here’s what I think. Reporters trusted by the AD know who the hire is—a small select number. And they’ve been asked to hold the story and just discuss other candidates until a set time—probably once senior day is done and the lights turned out in the Hall on Saturday. No more home games, no need to protect Woodson’s ego after that point. With the terrible risk of sounding like isaacTor, I guess—based on nothing but reading between the lines— that around 8 Saturday night Bozich and a handful of guys that are trusted in the AD will simultaneously start breaking stories about rumors of who this “veteran” coach is. I might be totally wrong, but I think “we got him.” Who else could this veteran guy be? 

Yeah I've been saying (also w/no info) I think it's just as likely as not that it's someone no one is talking about. Fwiw also read Bozich back when he was with the Courier Journal, he's always been a balanced bball reporter and pretty well sourced over the years. However, IU is not letting any reporter know who Dolson's guy is, not happening, and God help us if we're still encouraging the BS talk, lol

[go iu bb]

1 hour ago, JimmerNoe said:

Well, the Hysterics officially sabotaged our Friday Funday. This thread is a headache for about 7 different reasons today. Hopefully logging back in tonight will bring pages on pages of peaceful, non-criminal, non-faith based, rational discussion.

jk but everyone make sure you go take some deep breaths outside today 

It's raining outside.

 

[Ryno6284]

21 minutes ago, P92 said:

Okay, I know nothing, but I’m going out on a limb here. Just read Bozich’s most recent column. I’ve been reading Bozich since he was with the Louisville Courier Journal way back in the 80s. I’ve found him to be discreet, trustworthy, and an IU guy—which means he is kind of a company guy like Don Fischer who has been able to cover IU through the years and not tick administration or Bobby Knight off back in the day. In said column,  He goes through all the names we’ve been discussing lately—(with no mention of BS). He gives all the positive and negatives of each—all well and good. Then he says he believes SD is gonna hire someone else, no one is talking about—not on the list he just gave. Okay, fine, some unknown guy? No—- he then describes this guy as a veteran coach looking for a new challenge to rebuild IU. Kent Sterling does a video and says the exact same thing. I know to take Bozich seriously and also know he is connected and values access and won’t cross the athletic department. In my mind, BS just went from a 1-2% likely to better than even odds. Here’s what I think. Reporters trusted by the AD know who the hire is—a small select number. And they’ve been asked to hold the story and just discuss other candidates until a set time—probably once senior day is done and the lights turned out in the Hall on Saturday. No more home games, no need to protect Woodson’s ego after that point. With the terrible risk of sounding like isaacTor, I guess—based on nothing but reading between the lines— that around 8 Saturday night Bozich and a handful of guys that are trusted in the AD will simultaneously start breaking stories about rumors of who this “veteran” coach is. I might be totally wrong, but I think “we got him.” Who else could this veteran guy be? 

OMG, Ant was “Wright”! It is going to be The Turge!