General Coach Candidate News

[LamarCheeks 21,036]

7 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I’m not here for likes, then again I don’t pretend to be some self-important person on an anonymous message board, I’m perfectly comfortable in my own skin.

 

[OKHOOSIER 5,164]

6 minutes ago, jimsorgi said:

Sure, if that's what he gives you. But competing for Pac 12 titles isn't as good as it sounds - that league was so weak. In the last four years, he had two really good years and two years pretty similar to IU's last couple years under Woodson (and yes - I realize that one of those years he was a bubble teams that snuck in and went on a tournament run, but I'm not big on hiring based off one-off tournament runs).  His success at UCLA is a lot more like Crean at IU. 

 

There's an awful lot of projected improvement to get him to competing for Big 10 titles nearly every year. 

That’s not entirely fair to Cronin. The guy has made the tournament like 75% of seasons as a head coach, Crean was like 33%. They’re gonna make it this year and would have Covid season. That’s 14/15. Now an argument can definitely be made being essentially .500 in the tournament with 4 SS and 1 FF is underachieving I guess, but he’s been far more consistent as a head coach than Crean. 

[wirenuts 1,279]

 Does this mean that Ann Margaret is not coming?

[PartyintheVillas 568]

1 minute ago, OKHOOSIER said:

That’s not entirely fair to Cronin. The guy has made the tournament like 75% of seasons as a head coach, Crean was like 33%. They’re gonna make it this year and would have Covid season. That’s 14/15. Now an argument can definitely be made being essentially .500 in the tournament with 4 SS and 1 FF is underachieving I guess, but he’s been far more consistent as a head coach than Crean. 

Cronin always finishes in the top half of the conference and mostly top 4 as well. I wouldn't hate a Cronin hire, but I wouldn't be busting out my "We're Back" shirt yet either.

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10 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I’m not here for likes, then again I don’t pretend to be some self-important person on an anonymous message board…I’m perfectly comfortable in my own skin.

You don't say...

[AH1971 2,151]

11 minutes ago, jimsorgi said:

Sure, if that's what he gives you. But competing for Pac 12 titles isn't as good as it sounds - that league was so weak. In the last four years, he had two really good years and two years pretty similar to IU's last couple years under Woodson (and yes - I realize that one of those years he was a bubble teams that snuck in and went on a tournament run, but I'm not big on hiring based off one-off tournament runs).  His success at UCLA is a lot more like Crean at IU. 

 

There's an awful lot of projected improvement to get him to competing for Big 10 titles nearly every year. 

Not even close. Crean’s average B10 finish even if you exclude his first 3 years was something like 8th or 9th. Cronin hasn’t finished worse than 5th in any conference he’s coached in since 2012.

[rcbowla 7,696]

1 hour ago, HoosierKix said:

What is your proof though? Stevens is as real of a candidate as Beard, Huss, Brownell, Cronin, etc etc etc. Half of the guys we discuss aren't even real candidates that Scott is even thinking about, but we still discuss them. Why is it that you dictate that Stevens is so far from a real candidate we can't discuss him? Heck I heard Phill Jackson was a candidate let's talk about him? People can discuss any candidate they want weather they are real candidates or not. Don't need you just crapping on the conversation because you don't like it. 

Well.....except Turgeon apparently 

[Uspshoosier 51,092]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I think Cronin would take the IU job if offered for the two above mentioned reasons…that weren’t issues 4 years ago.

If he feels the same about it as he did 4 years ago then I don’t see any way he takes the IU job.   Last cycle I told the people that started the candidates thread they could leave off Cronin.   I deliver mail in Martinsville and know someone with a really close connection to him.   They showed me some interesting texts from him on his thoughts on the IU situation.  However that was 4 years ago and maybe some things have changed.   I guess I could go across town and ask about this year but since I switched routes I’m not on that side of town 

[Stuhoo 85,841]

14 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

1) I’m not here for likes, then again

2)I don’t pretend to be some self-important person on an anonymous message board…

3) I’m perfectly comfortable in my own skin.

1. Very True!!
2. False
3. Not sure

imo lol

[Stuhoo 85,841]

14 minutes ago, BA47591 said:

Anyone have insider scoop on the next Pope? 

The next Mark Pope?

[8bucks 7,064]

1 hour ago, westgym said:

Greg McDermott would kill it at IU.  I watch alot of Big East games (follow Butler also) and he’s the real deal.  Great demeanor, gets the most from his players, could handle the spotlight.  Also, my 2 cents on Brad based on my observations as someone who knows him and also those who know him better.  He’s very, very  unlikely to come back to the college game—even to IU.

Curious.  I flew down to a FF once with one of his former professors at Depauw who still kept in contact with BS.  This was many years ago and she said some things that always made me doubt if he would ever come back to coach.  But the stories from 4 years ago also seem to make some sense so I am curious if you think things got far enough last time that we discussed money and term?  Did we extend an offer? Did they take the family vote?

[OKHOOSIER 5,164]

1 minute ago, PartyintheVillas said:

Cronin always finishes in the top half of the conference and mostly top 4 as well. I wouldn't hate a Cronin hire, but I wouldn't be busting out my "We're Back" shirt yet either.

That’s exactly how I’d feel. At this point finishing above .500 in the B1G and making the tournament every season comfortably would feel like night and day to the last decade. Yea Cronin is meh from an excitement perspective, but maybe he takes everything he’s done and learned, combines it with our resources and takes another step as a coach. We could do way worse than Cronin. 

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That’s exactly how I’d feel. At this point finishing above .500 in the B1G and making the tournament every season comfortably would feel like night and day to the last decade. Yea Cronin is meh from an excitement perspective, but maybe he takes everything he’s done and learned, combines it with our resources and takes another step as a coach. We could do way worse than Cronin. 

I'd take him in a heartbeat over three or four other names that have been mentioned on here.

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[Hoosierfan1901 7,323]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

The next Mark Pope?

Mark Pope’s Brother, Mack Pope

[AH1971 2,151]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

If he feels the same about it as he did 4 years ago then I don’t see any way he takes the IU job.   Last cycle I told the people that started the candidates thread they could leave off Cronin.   I deliver mail in Martinsville and know someone with a really close connection to him.   They showed me some interesting texts from him on his thoughts on the IU situation.  However that was 4 years ago and maybe some things have changed.   I guess I could go across town and ask about this year but since I switched routes I’m not on that side of town 

I understand his feeling from 4 years ago lol. You don’t need to keep saying the same thing, read you loud and clear the first time.

4 years ago, UCLA wasn’t 2000 miles away from home every other week for a week at a time nor was UCLA every thought to be second fiddle in any hypothetical realm where it came to paying players.

[TrueHoosier62 1,665]

I've never read so many posts that suggested the ugly side effects of menstruation were incorrectly assigned to women. 

[IU Prof 1,638]

I wouldn't be opposed to Cronin as about 8th or so on the list. But his buyout is $16 million. Unless UCLA is desperate enough to lower that by 70-80%, that simply isn't happening. 

[jimsorgi 562]

4 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Not even close. Crean’s average B10 finish even if you exclude his first 3 years was something like 8th or 9th. Cronin hasn’t finished worse than 5th in any conference he’s coached in since 2012.

Crean:

4 seed

1 seed

Missed tournament 

10 seed

5 seed

Missed tournament/bubble out

Cronin:

11 seed (out then won conference tourney in a bad conference)

11 seed

4 seed

2 seed

Missed tournament (worse year than any Woodson has had at IU or Crean had at IU after his first few)

Then probably about a 6 seed this year

I don't really care about conference standings when comparing to a 3-bid Pac 12. 

[Stuhoo 85,841]

4 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I understand his feeling from 4 years ago lol. You don’t need to keep saying the same thing, read you loud and clear the first time.

4 years ago, UCLA wasn’t 2000 miles away from home every other week for a week at a time nor was UCLA every thought to be second fiddle in any hypothetical realm where it came to paying players.

Gawd I always look forward to when someone responds to @Uspshoosier with passive-aggressive condescension. 

Cause what happens next could be interesting!

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1 minute ago, IU Prof said:

I wouldn't be opposed to Cronin as about 8th or so on the list. But his buyout is $16 million. Unless UCLA is desperate enough to lower that by 70-80%, that simply isn't happening. 

Apparently, it drops to $10M at the end of the month. Still very high. I don't buy the whole possible loophole thing.