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[BehindTheBench 1,555]

That first Hoosier Hysteria, my god, I can’t imagine. Move it to Memorial. Keep the faith gents 

[coonhounds 10,559]

I knew we were going to get the brad thing ramped back up! Please let's not go back again! Let's not post about it so brad won't have to come back out and publicly shame us again!

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[Hoosier Guy 8,333]

It’s going to be Stevens.  Nothing has changed my mind.

[Truthhurts 367]

16 minutes ago, str8baller said:

This just ignores reality. 
 

1) IN high school coaches are some of the best in the country and can sniff out frauds like Davis and Crean. 
 

2) IN is still one of the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country. Alienating that is plain dumb. 
 

3) piggybacking off #2, when IN kids are winning titles or making national championship game runs at other programs while you’re spinning your wheels at IU with “national “ recruits even the little ol’ grandmas in the stands know it is over for you. 
 

I have said it before and will repeat it again hundred more times: the Indiana job is hard. Huge upside, but hard. There’s too many needles to thread. You can’t just be an ol coach off the Div 1 street and automatically win because it’s Indiana.

This is pre-NIL mindset. High school and AAU coaches have about 1% the impact and influence today as they had 5 years ago.  High school recruiting hardly  matters anymore, and for the few guys ready to make an impact in year one, it’s all about the money now - not relationships. 

[AZ Hoosier 11,018]

40 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Hate Brownwell all you want but maybe hiring a coach that respects the history of IU basketball and knows how important the state of Indiana can be to recruiting might not be a bad thing.   He isn’t going to be the first or even the 5th choice however there are plenty of other crappy routes IU could go.   Getting a sitting ACC coach wouldn’t be the end of the world.   Give me a lifer and grinder and I will give them a chance to prove me or anyone else wrong 

Sounds like Crean and his "It's Indiana" schtick... but he burned bridges with Indiana HS and AAU coaches... and recruited guys like Oladipo, Priller, Sheehey, Muniru, Cody, Hanner, Yogi, April, Anonuby, Gelon... he was all over the map... and for every really good recruit that he got, he managed to sign a bust or two...

Every coach misses on a recruit or two... but we need a guy who can do better than 50%... and then do the development

[IUHoosierJoe 2,155]

1 hour ago, Josh said:

I know this is true, but I hate it.  Indiana high school coaches should have no bearing on IU basketball coaching.  Indiana high school recruits decisions should have no bearing on IU basketball.

We want a national program not a regional program.

I couldn't care less if a recruit is from Indiana or Uranus.

Rant over.

I would question the athleticism of kids from Uranus.

[Hoosierfan1901 8,315]

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[coonhounds 10,559]

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Praying

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[AZ Hoosier 11,018]

37 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

So lets say, It is Brad and he's signed pen to paper.... How long until press release / We find out?

 

at least 5 more games... maybe a few more if the Wizard of Broad Ripple gets hot.

[Ponduke 52]

Has this guy been discussed yet? He's obviously never done it at the D1 level but still, his record is amazing. 

Jim Crutchfield 

https://nsusharks.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/jim-crutchfield/3230

532-85 career record (.862) - highest winning percentage among coaches at any level in NCAA history

[RoadRage 3,012]

19 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Yeah, sure, but how his recruiting?

It would be really impressive if Brownell was winning for a year in a mid-major without attracting a single two star or better recruit in his entire career. (snark)

Because we’ve got that option apparently.

Brownell is so much better prepared for IU than McCollum it boggles my mind that people would feel differently. Putting McCollum in charge of an enterprise the size of IUBB would be like naming a successful McDonald’s regional manager as CEO. It might work, but no one in their right mind would take that risk.

And the ceiling for McCollum, Brownell, Cronin, and others at IU is the same; national champion. It’s just that some have an extensive resume that already shows they can be successful as a P5 coach.

I posted that link to Ray Harper’s resume because he was seven time D2 national coach of the year with multiple d2 championships. Then he went to WKy and had a very good first few years. Then he slowly faded because he couldn’t run a program that was a larger enterprise. 

Bobby Knight had not even made the NCAA tournament once when he came to Indiana in 1971….I know it was tougher to make the tournament just saying he was not much better prepared than McCollum. His last year at Army he was 11-13……..

[DougJr74 276]

1 hour ago, HoosierTrav said:

Appreciate your optimism but I respectfully disagree. 

Why do you disagree? Who is it?

[AZ Hoosier 11,018]

6 minutes ago, Ponduke said:

Has this guy been discussed yet? He's obviously never done it at the D1 level but still, his record is amazing. 

Jim Crutchfield 

https://nsusharks.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/jim-crutchfield/3230

532-85 career record (.862) - highest winning percentage among coaches at any level in NCAA history

I thought Crutchfield sold car audio...

[Josh 13,249]

30 minutes ago, str8baller said:

This just ignores reality. 
 

1) IN high school coaches are some of the best in the country and can sniff out frauds like Davis and Crean. 
 

2) IN is still one of the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country. Alienating that is plain dumb. 
 

3) piggybacking off #2, when IN kids are winning titles or making national championship game runs at other programs while you’re spinning your wheels at IU with “national “ recruits even the little ol’ grandmas in the stands know it is over for you. 
 

I have said it before and will repeat it again hundred more times: the Indiana job is hard. Huge upside, but hard. There’s too many needles to thread. You can’t just be an ol coach off the Div 1 street and automatically win because it’s Indiana.

I respect you a lot as a poster.  A ton.

But this take is why we suck as a program.  Indiana has great recruits and coaches.  But not more than many other places in America.  Lately even, globally.  Thinking that we have some sort of superiority over other areas is why we hired Woodson and worship our high school system.  How's that worked for us?

[IUHAHN81 3,309]

Ashes to ashes.

Dust to dust.

Get Brad to sign the damn contract, so he can be with us! 

Get er' done Scott!!!!

[Stuhoo 89,914]

2 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

Bobby Knight had not even made the NCAA tournament once when he came to Indiana in 1971….I know it was tougher to make the tournament just saying he was not much better prepared than McCollum. His last year at Army he was 11-13……..

I’m going to quote myself: “Putting McCollum in charge of an enterprise the size of IUBB would be like naming a successful McDonald’s regional manager as CEO. It might work, but no one in their right mind would take that risk.”

RMK’s incredible success was the exception, not the rule. And RMK already had six full seasons as a D1 coach after playing on a National Champion that was also an B1G school.

And moreover, that was 1971. The business enterprise that is now IU Basketball did not exist. In 1971 RMK was a basketball practice and floor coach; an extraordinary one, and not much more. 

[Hoosier987 2,834]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

I’m going to quote myself: “Putting McCollum in charge of an enterprise the size of IUBB would be like naming a successful McDonald’s regional manager as CEO. It might work, but no one in their right mind would take that risk.”

RMK’s incredible success was the exception, not the rule. And RMK already had six full seasons as a D1 coach after playing on a National Champion that was also an B1G school.

And moreover, that was 1971. The business enterprise that is now IU Basketball did not exist. In 1971 RMK was a basketball practice and floor coach; an extraordinary one, and not much more. 

Excellent McDonald’s example. Very easy to understand.

[str8baller 7,640]

12 minutes ago, Truthhurts said:

This is pre-NIL mindset. High school and AAU coaches have about 1% the impact and influence today as they had 5 years ago.  High school recruiting hardly  matters anymore, and for the few guys ready to make an impact in year one, it’s all about the money now - not relationships. 

Sounds good, but I doubt that’s really true. It’s actually just copium for Woodson fans that has bled over to the normal fan base.

 

From what I can tell most of the best players are recruited to high majors and stay there. Karajan, Clinton, castle, etc.., all recruited to UConn. Eden, smith… same. The other top guys are mid major risers. Theres a reason p5  host schools let guys like rice, Ballo, and Carlyle go. 
 

I think IU, its next coach, and its fans are absolutely delusional if they’re going to win big by abandoning HS recruiting. 

[LamarCheeks 22,188]

1 hour ago, TTT said:

If not Stevens or May

Then:

Alford 

Schertz

(young tennis star, Interesting relationship with dad and mom, on his own at young age from a million dollar dad)…..Schertz NIL would get players that play for the school and him.  Community liked him because he wins. (AD from ISU could see it)  ISU had a president that was out of her league.  (In both basketball and baseball).  Schertz is smart.  Team plays 21st century and still is a no nonsense type coach.  Entertaining.  People would like this guy and is well spoken (interesting and fun to listen to).  High energy.  And less of a risk than many that are mentioned because he can coach and the IU NIL would allow him to put together the team chemistry that he would be successful with.

Spin the bottle and pick one….Let’s go.

 

Alford? 

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,574]

Sounds good, but I doubt that’s really true. It’s actually just copium for Woodson fans that has bled over to the normal fan base.
 
From what I can tell most of the best players are recruited to high majors and stay there. Karajan, Clinton, castle, etc.., all recruited to UConn. Eden, smith… same. The other top guys are mid major risers. Theres a reason p5  host schools let guys like rice, Ballo, and Carlyle go. 
 
I think IU, its next coach, and its fans are absolutely delusional if they’re going to win big by abandoning HS recruiting. 

The balance as with most things, lies in the middle. Portal can work if you have a system, know the system, and recruit goal oriented players that want to win basketball games. And can scout and evaluate talent better than the next guy.

Rice and especially Carlyle have been misses. Ballo has been mostly fine but hasn’t gelled well with Reneau. Gallo and Leal still can’t shoot.

I think the best programs and doing a mixture of both things.


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