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[Hoosierinbham 183]

9 hours ago, HoosierTrav said:

We have to at least call Oats and see if there is any interest. I’m telling you. He’s the best fit for IU. Pearl would win. May could possibly win. I’m 50/50… Oats would be a legend here immediately. 

I was told last night by someone very connected to the Bama program there is a decent chance Oates moves north after this season. They were thinking more Michigan or Ohio State, but sounds like he's open to a change of scenery. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Guess we'll see.

[Stuhoo 82,766]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierinbham said:

I was told last night by someone very connected to the Bama program there is a decent chance Oates moves north after this season. They were thinking more Michigan or Ohio State, but sounds like he's open to a change of scenery. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Guess we'll see.

Hey; I’ll give you a coaching style comp for Nate Oats:

Oats = Branch McCracken with a three ball

[Hoosierinbham 183]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Hey; I’ll give you a coaching style comp for Nate Oats:

Oats = Branch McCracken with a three ball

Outstanding comparison!  I attended the McCracken basketball camp on Lake James multiple years.  His son was great. Bring back the "Hurryin Hoosiers"!

[Free Jurkin! 1,507]

I am only talking about the college game. The NBA offense today is amazing 

This gets back to my point about talent though. The problem is not with the offensive philosophy, it's with the talent. College talent is significantly diluted since guys started leaving early regularly. I think even if you moved the best coaching from the 80s to today it wouldn't be nearly as effective, both because the offensive skill level is lower, and the defensive athleticism is much greater.

 

You can't compare teams from the 80s and 90s to today. None of those teams would exist today because almost all of the players would have already been in the NBA for 2 years.

 

 

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[IUFAN1976 3,968]

17 minutes ago, Hoosierinbham said:

Outstanding comparison!  I attended the McCracken basketball camp on Lake James multiple years.  His son was great. Bring back the "Hurryin Hoosiers"!

How freaking old are you?

[IUHoosierJoe 1,389]

8 hours ago, Scotty R said:

Well to me the ppg is the most important thing. I couldn't care less about some of these made up advanced metrics crap.

Even if you use straight ppg, you'd still have to adjust that number for the strength of offenses they have faced to make it relevant.  

[Hoosierinbham 183]

3 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

How freaking old are you?

48. Attended camp in the 80s. His son David was older at that point, but still VERY energetic. Wokes us up loudly singing, "Roll out the barrels...

[IUFAN1976 3,968]

1 minute ago, Hoosierinbham said:

48. Attended camp in the 80s. His son David was older at that point, but still VERY energetic. Wokes us up loudly singing, "Roll out the barrels...

Sorry, I just think anything with McCraken or his son’s would make you much older.  I guess I’ve got you beat, lol

[Hoosierinbham 183]

1 minute ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Sorry, I just think anything with McCraken or his son’s would make you much older.  I guess I’ve got you beat, lol

Trust me, I feel like it some days!

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,052]

Oats would nearly be my #1 option. Hope he isn’t in the B1G unless it’s Indiana. If Michigan or Ohio State get him I see near-future success.


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[AZ Hoosier 8,241]

1 hour ago, Hoosierinbham said:

I was told last night by someone very connected to the Bama program there is a decent chance Oates moves north after this season. They were thinking more Michigan or Ohio State, but sounds like he's open to a change of scenery. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Guess we'll see.

 

[Stuhoo 82,766]

4 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

 

That guy wearing the sweatshirt has a $10,000,000 buyout through March, 2025.

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,052]

That guy wearing the sweatshirt has a $10,000,000 buyout through March, 2025.

You know, “shoot for the moon, land in the stars” and such.


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[IndyHoops 461]

8 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

That guy wearing the sweatshirt has a $10,000,000 buyout through March, 2025.

And Woodson’s is $12,000,000….we are gonna need more donors….  :)

[Artie86 2,349]

I honestly think if/when this actually becomes official and IU is in the market for a new bb coach, it will finally be proven, quality coach. Dolson and Co. are going to want to really make this right. We totally have the funds to pay for an Oats, Pearl type coach ….JMO

[Kentuckysucks 2,622]

So is Trilly really reporting that Dolson supports a change but Buckner is a hard no?  That's what I read on another site.

[94Bulldog 611]

I’m sure some won’t agree but I’ll just say this, I want a consistent top 20 winning program.   Is that too much to ask?  I don’t care anymore about perception and sparkling clean image.  College athletics are so far past those days.  I’m past the days of caring if a coach had prior sanctions, charges dropped, or found innocent.  If it wasn’t for age I’d take Sampson back in a heartbeat.  Pearl’s past?  Doesn’t bother me in the least.  Should have went after him 8 years ago.  Beard’s issues?  Charges dropped, move on.  Winning makes a lot of things better.  Just my grumpy Monday morning take as I stare at another March and the best time of the college sports year and once again, I don’t care about it because my team will be just like me, sitting on the couch watching.  

[str8baller 5,877]

12 hours ago, AH1971 said:

I have no clue what you’re talking about or how that pertains to analytics? Analytics is nothing more than data. It’s a mathematical fact that a 3 point shot is a more efficient shot (over an entire setting) than a 15 foot jump shot. You’re literally arguing against data and math.

Most efficient shot is still an open shot, especially in the hands of your best shooter. An open 15 footer for a guy like Alford is more efficient than a contested 3 pointer.
 

I think that is what Scotty R is getting at. And I agree with him that it has become a bit of a lost art in today’s game to work your best shooters into an open space that isn’t a 3.  
 

I think a lot of coaches gravitate towards getting all their shooters on the 3pt line not only because it gives you a statistically strong shot, but imo, it is easier to teach to a guy in 6 mos time than something like a motion offense. Tony Bennett still teaches a version of the latter and you can see how his team has really had its ups and downs on offense this year trying to integrate 4 new players. If those players stay though, I bet they’ll be incredibly efficient on offense next year and the following

[Chris007 47,773]

11 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Hey; I’ll give you a coaching style comp for Nate Oats:

Oats = Branch McCracken with a three ball

Is it true you were at IU during those McCraken days? Oldfart told me you were and I believe everything he says

[AH1971 1,883]

1 minute ago, str8baller said:

Most efficient shot is still an open shot, especially in the hands of your best shooter. An open 15 footer for a guy like Alford is more efficient than a contested 3 pointer.

Open and if it goes in*

If you shoot 35% as a team from 3, you have to shoot at least 53% from the mid-range to make it a more efficient shot. Very few people in the world shot 53% from the mid-range whether they're open or not, let alone an entire team. That's literally why teams are willing to give up that shot possession after possession....it's not a high probability shot regardless if it goes in or not.