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[dreachon 97]

I think we can make some reasonable assumptions about who the next coach will be at this point through some process of elimination. 

Coaches that are off the board bc they are available and we would have hired them already if we wanted them:

Cheaney

Woodson

Belein

Matta

Beard

Fife

Coaches that are off the board bc they're not interested

Stevens

Oats (most likely)

Holtmann (LOL)

Now let's remember the prevailing thought when Archie was fired. Many people thought Dolson "had his guy in mind" and that boosters paid the buyout because they liked Dolson's plan on where the coaching search would go. That takes Moser off the list. Archie was fired before the tournament and prior to Loyola going on another run, I doubt Moser would have been on the list. The same could maybe be said for Mike Cronin and Michael Lewis...

That leaves Musselman. Musselman is the guy and your next head coach of IU basketball. It makes sense in other ways as well if you believe we were able to inquire about his character and coaching style through Justin Smith. This is, what I believe to be, the best guess based on all the available information to us. 

[southernindianahoosier2 1,056]

I think we can make some reasonable assumptions about who the next coach will be at this point through some process of elimination. 

Coaches that are off the board bc they are available and we would have hired them already if we wanted them:

Cheaney

Woodson

Belein

Matta

Beard

Fife

Coaches that are off the board bc they're not interested

Stevens

Oats (most likely)

Holtmann (LOL)

Now let's remember the prevailing thought when Archie was fired. Many people thought Dolson "had his guy in mind" and that boosters paid the buyout because they liked Dolson's plan on where the coaching search would go. That takes Moser off the list. Archie was fired before the tournament and prior to Loyola going on another run, I doubt Moser would have been on the list. The same could maybe be said for Mike Cronin and Michael Lewis...

That leaves Musselman. Musselman is the guy and your next head coach of IU basketball. It makes sense in other ways as well if you believe we were able to inquire about his character and coaching style through Justin Smith. This is, what I believe to be, the best guess based on all the available information to us. 

So that leaves Musselman?
Who else ?


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[Nonymouse 115]

4 minutes ago, dreachon said:

I think we can make some reasonable assumptions about who the next coach will be at this point through some process of elimination. 

Coaches that are off the board bc they are available and we would have hired them already if we wanted them:

Cheaney

Woodson

Belein

Matta

Beard

Fife

Coaches that are off the board bc they're not interested

Stevens

Oats (most likely)

Holtmann (LOL)

Now let's remember the prevailing thought when Archie was fired. Many people thought Dolson "had his guy in mind" and that boosters paid the buyout because they liked Dolson's plan on where the coaching search would go. That takes Moser off the list. Archie was fired before the tournament and prior to Loyola going on another run, I doubt Moser would have been on the list. The same could maybe be said for Mike Cronin and Michael Lewis...

That leaves Musselman. Musselman is the guy and your next head coach of IU basketball. It makes sense in other ways as well if you believe we were able to inquire about his character and coaching style through Justin Smith. This is, what I believe to be, the best guess based on all the available information to us. 

Given that IU gave Holtmann a look (12M buyout and 3.2 salary), buyout/raise for Mussel (who makes 2.5 and has a 5M buyout) should be a non issue. 
 

I feel pretty strongly now that the wait is because they want to talk to Musselman. If he isn’t the coach, it probably won’t be because of money or that IU didn’t try. 

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6 minutes ago, bird4par said:

Why is everyone so infatuated with “coach in the waiting?”  I don’t understand. 

I think it's because they want an "IU guy" who isn't Alford but also realize none of them have the resume right now to get excited about hiring them. That or they want Beilein butt realize he's old and don't want another search in a few years.

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5 minutes ago, dreachon said:

It makes sense in other ways as well if you believe we were able to inquire about his character and coaching style through Justin Smith.

I can almost guarantee you that the AD isn’t vetting coaching through disgruntled transferred players.  
 

I have no idea if it’s Musselman, but Justin Smith won’t have a thing to do with the search. 

[Papacap 1,890]

I can see why people are saying coaches who are available now are out because we’d already have hired them. And that’s likely true. Except for two scenarios:

1) Stevens is still an option (long shot, I know but someone wins the billion dollar lottery at some point.)

2) We are still negotiating with a coach in the tourney and it falls through.

But there are coaches available now I’d be happy with. Woody or Beilein. I get Beilein’s age and thug comment.

In the end, I think our new coach is still coaching but I don’t think it’s an absolute.

[ap2345 11,254]

Utah is hiring Utah States Craig Smith 

[ap2345 11,254]

1 hour ago, bird4par said:

Why is everyone so infatuated with “coach in the waiting?”  I don’t understand. 

I agree. It’s not realistic 

[ap2345 11,254]

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Utah is hiring Utah States Craig Smith 

Good move for them. I like him

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[ISP 953]

I've seen a number of posters and tweeters mention that they are pretty certain it is Oats. I would personally love that. But I have seen /heard zero evidence that Dolson is "zeroing" or back channeling in on him. Did I miss something substantial?

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,887]

I've seen a number of posters and tweeters mention that they are pretty certain it is Oats. I would personally love that. But I have seen /heard zero evidence that Dolson is "zeroing" or back channeling in on him. Did I miss something substantial?

I’d love that. If we are getting an Up and Comer, he’s #1 in my book.


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2 minutes ago, ISP said:

I've seen a number of posters and tweeters mention that they are pretty certain it is Oats. I would personally love that. But I have seen /heard zero evidence that Dolson is "zeroing" or back channeling in on him. Did I miss something substantial?

No. You did not.

There are a LOT of wishful thinking posts with no evidence whatsoever.

Oats is locked in to a place for which price is no object.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,887]

No. You did not.
There are a LOT of wishful thinking posts with no evidence whatsoever.
Oats is locked in to a place for which price is no object.
 

Seems likely


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[Hoosier_Hatchet 83]

11 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

What would cause him the most grief on Twitter?  If we (IU twitter fanbase) collectively worked together, we would really trouble him.  Block him?  Unfollow him?  Any other ideas?  

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9 minutes ago, ISP said:

I've seen a number of posters and tweeters mention that they are pretty certain it is Oats. I would personally love that. But I have seen /heard zero evidence that Dolson is "zeroing" or back channeling in on him. Did I miss something substantial?

Other than IU guys (Woodson, Cheaney), any credible info is almost certainly not coming from IU, but sources outside the program. And any guys that would be legitimately talking to IU and also still in the tournament are most definitely going to be quiet so as not to distract their players.

[ISP 953]

1 minute ago, Hoosier_Hatchet said:

What would cause him the most grief on Twitter?  If we (IU twitter fanbase) collectively worked together, we would really trouble him.  Block him?  Unfollow him?  Any other ideas?  

Hire a home run

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1 hour ago, bird4par said:

Why is everyone so infatuated with “coach in the waiting?”  I don’t understand. 

The only scenario it makes sense is if Dolson hires Beilein... but I suspect that if he was going that direction, we'd be done with the search... since he's not done, it's not happening, and the coach in waiting thing is a non-starter.

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1 minute ago, Hoosier_Hatchet said:

What would cause him the most grief on Twitter?  If we (IU twitter fanbase) collectively worked together, we would really trouble him.  Block him?  Unfollow him?  Any other ideas?  

Ignore him. He wants a rise out of IU (or any other fan base) so not feeding the trolls works best, IMO.

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1 minute ago, Hoosier_Hatchet said:

What would cause him the most grief on Twitter?  If we (IU twitter fanbase) collectively worked together, we would really trouble him.  Block him?  Unfollow him?  Any other ideas?  

1) Get a huge win in the coaching search then continuously mock him. 
 

2) Find evidence he was complicit in helping CH spread false rumors that we zeroed in on him