General Coach Candidate News

[Dave from Dayton 4,064]

1 minute ago, LamarCheeks said:

Would a college coaching hire normally have to pass a physical -- or was it in this case a condition of his employment? Or would that even be legal? Not trying to dispute your info, I just have no idea how this works? 

And if he was offered, I would assume that means he was interested? 

If the ability to perform certain physical acts are part of the job description then a physical is legal.  For instance, ability to climb a tower to maintain or install equipment.  Or the ability to show players how to shoot/defend or perform physical acts.  Also there may be pre-existing conditions that would make the coach ineligible for a specific health insurance coverage which would be required.

[Hardwood83 5,077]

1 hour ago, Treesh said:

It's more than that however. Arkansas is very much a basketball school. They love their basketball down there. Have you been to their arena down there? It's super nice! 

The boosters have money. As AZ mentioned, they have Walmart money. Arkansas hasn't seen this amount of success in a while. They're not going to let Mussleman walk away. Frankly, Mussleman loves it there. The idea of coaches coming to Indiana because it's "Indiana" is blown out of proportion. We never would've hired CTC or Archie if "Indiana" is indeed a name you can't refuse. 

If that is all true- and I agree it mostly is- why doesn't Brad Stevens coach in Fayetteville? Why isn't Musselman getting $6mil already?

Also the Walton money hasn't impacted the floundering football program the last 10yrs. Arkansas is a solid program, but it's not top-tier. No idea if Mussleman is interested, but I don't buy Arkansas is paradise either. 

[Chris007 62,605]

4 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Would a college coaching hire normally have to pass a physical -- or was it in this case a condition of his employment? Or would that even be legal? Not trying to dispute your info, I just have no idea how this works? 

And if he was offered, I would assume that means he was interested? 

I didn't get that info. But I did get my info from someone who interviewed yesterday. But didn't feel like it was a real interview

[akinnaird24 518]

It will be very interesting if Woodson gets the job because a friend of mine was actually told by Woodson at the start of the search that Stevens was the next coach lol


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[bigrod 3,202]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I didn't get that info. But I did get my info from someone who interviewed yesterday. But didn't feel like it was a real interview

This would be a person (and his wife) that we didn't think would be interested?

[Trish 14,482]

1 minute ago, Hardwood83 said:

If that is all true- and I agree it mostly is- why doesn't Brad Stevens coach in Fayetteville? Why isn't Musselman getting $6mil already?

Also the Walton money hasn't impacted the floundering football program the last 10yrs. Arkansas is a solid program, but it's not top-tier. No idea if Mussleman is interested, but I don't buy Arkansas is paradise either. 

Fayetteville is quite beautiful, very similar to Bloomington as most small college towns are of course. I highly recommend checking it out if you're in the area. 

[kottke 919]

11 minutes ago, Josh said:

100%

I'm warming up to Coach Woody

Me too. My only gripe is his age, which isn't a huge deal. I just love the idea (which I thought we'd have with Archie) of someone being here for 20-25 years. We're looking at around maybe 10 with Woodson, then searching all over again.

[Kentuckysucks 4,332]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I didn't get that info. But I did get my info from someone who interviewed yesterday. But didn't feel like it was a real interview

Dolson will "interview" some IU guys.  He wants to appease the Dakich side of the base who were irate that Fred didn't even give them an interview 4 years ago.  It's just a publicity stunt.  Nothing more.

[Stuhoo 89,858]

1 minute ago, Treesh said:

Oh please, a percentage is a percentage.

If you can explain what the heck that means you are a savant. 

Do we want a guy who had a winning percentage of 43% in his first three years as a power five coach? Heck no!, because "a percentage is a percentage." lol  (Coach K)

 

 

[Chris007 62,605]

1 minute ago, bigrod said:

This would be a person (and his wife) that we didn't think would be interested?

And I was wrong, after getting the call he was really disappointed it didn't feel like a real interview. Just a check the box type. Not sure what his wife thinks anymore, that was years ago

[Zachetology 282]

7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I like parts of your post a lot.

See if I can modify it a little:

Local connections and dedication to the university are relevant, but most definitely not nearly enough to overcome mediocrity as a leader of young men or as a coach.

Alford? My last choice of all the names I've heard.

Woodson? Bingo.

I think Woodson does play bingo, probably after he takes his pills. 

[bigrod 3,202]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

And I was wrong, after getting the call he was really disappointed it didn't feel like a real interview. Just a check the box type. Not sure what his wife thinks anymore, that was years ago

That's unfortunate...

[iu eyedoc 4,504]

7 minutes ago, brandct said:

He is in his 60s. He has never coached in the NCAA. He has never recruited. We do not know how his coaching would translate to college because in the NBA you are dealing with the top 1% not trying to find the top 1%. Kids today would have no clue who he was when he played in college or the NBA. I just think he would be very underwhelming.

I would counter that, being 63 only matters if he is good, and if so, I take 10 years of a good coach at IU any day of the week. Beyond J Howard, what successful coach right now recruits, at all, by his player past? And other than a few pie in the sky candidates, translation to the current NCAA athlete is a complete unknown. 

Recruiting is his biggest unknown and 2 time NBA HC and 25 yrs of NBA coaching is never a negative and a recruits biggest advisers, mom and dad likely do know who Woodson is.

If you are waiting on Stevens, Few, Bennett,Beard, you are likely going to be standing at the alter alone for a very long time.

 

[HoosierFan1994 5,351]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

And I was wrong, after getting the call he was really disappointed it didn't feel like a real interview. Just a check the box type. Not sure what his wife thinks anymore, that was years ago

I know it's reported that Woodson interviewed for the job, but do you think that was a check the box type? I just don't see how Dolson hires someone who has never coached in college before. He has to get that hire right. It's a gamble. I'll give him a chance, but just seems odds. I still feel his guy is either coaching in the tournament or just finished the tournament. 

[Stuhoo 89,858]

If we hired Coach Woody and he "only" gave us eight or ten years, that would mean that it went extremely well.

63 means multiple recruiting cycles, 68/69 means one or two at most.

[Chris007 62,605]

Just now, HoosierFan1994 said:

I know it's reported that Woodson interviewed for the job, but do you think that was a check the box type? I just don't see how Dolson hires someone who has never coached in college before. I'll give him a chance, but just seems odds. I still feel his guy is either coaching in the tournament or just finished the tournament. 

I know Woodson really pushed for the job the last two times. Asking rich people in Bloomington to call on his behalf to help sway Glass. This could be all smoke and mirrors

[Stuhoo 89,858]

Just now, Chris007 said:

I know Woodson really pushed for the job the last two times. Asking rich people in Bloomington to call on his behalf to help sway Glass. This could be all smoke and mirrors

Damn if we'd only listened to him five and 13 years ago.

[AZ Hoosier 10,997]

30 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I was told the first story on Matta was the correct one

There has been so much chatter about so many potential coaches... who remembers what "the first story" on any one (except BS) was? Can you refresh an old guy's memory? Please and thanks.

Surely you aren't confirming the agreement and failed physical, are you? (And I won't call your "Shirley" again) :D

[HoosierFan1994 5,351]

Just now, Chris007 said:

I know Woodson really pushed for the job the last two times. Asking rich people in Bloomington to call on his behalf to help sway Glass. This could be all smoke and mirrors

I just feel if it's him or Beilein, they would've been hired by now. I said last night but if we get to the weekend with no coach I think our guy is Beard, Musselman, or someone still coaching. Those things take awhile, a week or two. 

[Chris007 62,605]

Just now, AZ Hoosier said:

There has been so much chatter about so many potential coaches... who remembers what "the first story" on any one (except BS) was? Can you refresh an old guy's memory? Please and thanks.

Answered above, was his job but didn't pass the physical