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[Trish 11,548]

1 minute ago, Hardwood83 said:

If that is all true- and I agree it mostly is- why doesn't Brad Stevens coach in Fayetteville? Why isn't Musselman getting $6mil already?

Also the Walton money hasn't impacted the floundering football program the last 10yrs. Arkansas is a solid program, but it's not top-tier. No idea if Mussleman is interested, but I don't buy Arkansas is paradise either. 

Fayetteville is quite beautiful, very similar to Bloomington as most small college towns are of course. I highly recommend checking it out if you're in the area. 

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11 minutes ago, Josh said:

100%

I'm warming up to Coach Woody

Me too. My only gripe is his age, which isn't a huge deal. I just love the idea (which I thought we'd have with Archie) of someone being here for 20-25 years. We're looking at around maybe 10 with Woodson, then searching all over again.

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1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I didn't get that info. But I did get my info from someone who interviewed yesterday. But didn't feel like it was a real interview

Dolson will "interview" some IU guys.  He wants to appease the Dakich side of the base who were irate that Fred didn't even give them an interview 4 years ago.  It's just a publicity stunt.  Nothing more.

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1 minute ago, Treesh said:

Oh please, a percentage is a percentage.

If you can explain what the heck that means you are a savant. 

Do we want a guy who had a winning percentage of 43% in his first three years as a power five coach? Heck no!, because "a percentage is a percentage." lol  (Coach K)

 

 

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1 minute ago, bigrod said:

This would be a person (and his wife) that we didn't think would be interested?

And I was wrong, after getting the call he was really disappointed it didn't feel like a real interview. Just a check the box type. Not sure what his wife thinks anymore, that was years ago

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7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I like parts of your post a lot.

See if I can modify it a little:

Local connections and dedication to the university are relevant, but most definitely not nearly enough to overcome mediocrity as a leader of young men or as a coach.

Alford? My last choice of all the names I've heard.

Woodson? Bingo.

I think Woodson does play bingo, probably after he takes his pills. 

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1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

And I was wrong, after getting the call he was really disappointed it didn't feel like a real interview. Just a check the box type. Not sure what his wife thinks anymore, that was years ago

That's unfortunate...

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7 minutes ago, brandct said:

He is in his 60s. He has never coached in the NCAA. He has never recruited. We do not know how his coaching would translate to college because in the NBA you are dealing with the top 1% not trying to find the top 1%. Kids today would have no clue who he was when he played in college or the NBA. I just think he would be very underwhelming.

I would counter that, being 63 only matters if he is good, and if so, I take 10 years of a good coach at IU any day of the week. Beyond J Howard, what successful coach right now recruits, at all, by his player past? And other than a few pie in the sky candidates, translation to the current NCAA athlete is a complete unknown. 

Recruiting is his biggest unknown and 2 time NBA HC and 25 yrs of NBA coaching is never a negative and a recruits biggest advisers, mom and dad likely do know who Woodson is.

If you are waiting on Stevens, Few, Bennett,Beard, you are likely going to be standing at the alter alone for a very long time.

 

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3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

And I was wrong, after getting the call he was really disappointed it didn't feel like a real interview. Just a check the box type. Not sure what his wife thinks anymore, that was years ago

I know it's reported that Woodson interviewed for the job, but do you think that was a check the box type? I just don't see how Dolson hires someone who has never coached in college before. He has to get that hire right. It's a gamble. I'll give him a chance, but just seems odds. I still feel his guy is either coaching in the tournament or just finished the tournament. 

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If we hired Coach Woody and he "only" gave us eight or ten years, that would mean that it went extremely well.

63 means multiple recruiting cycles, 68/69 means one or two at most.

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Just now, HoosierFan1994 said:

I know it's reported that Woodson interviewed for the job, but do you think that was a check the box type? I just don't see how Dolson hires someone who has never coached in college before. I'll give him a chance, but just seems odds. I still feel his guy is either coaching in the tournament or just finished the tournament. 

I know Woodson really pushed for the job the last two times. Asking rich people in Bloomington to call on his behalf to help sway Glass. This could be all smoke and mirrors

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Just now, Chris007 said:

I know Woodson really pushed for the job the last two times. Asking rich people in Bloomington to call on his behalf to help sway Glass. This could be all smoke and mirrors

Damn if we'd only listened to him five and 13 years ago.

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30 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I was told the first story on Matta was the correct one

There has been so much chatter about so many potential coaches... who remembers what "the first story" on any one (except BS) was? Can you refresh an old guy's memory? Please and thanks.

Surely you aren't confirming the agreement and failed physical, are you? (And I won't call your "Shirley" again) :D

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Just now, Chris007 said:

I know Woodson really pushed for the job the last two times. Asking rich people in Bloomington to call on his behalf to help sway Glass. This could be all smoke and mirrors

I just feel if it's him or Beilein, they would've been hired by now. I said last night but if we get to the weekend with no coach I think our guy is Beard, Musselman, or someone still coaching. Those things take awhile, a week or two. 

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Just now, AZ Hoosier said:

There has been so much chatter about so many potential coaches... who remembers what "the first story" on any one (except BS) was? Can you refresh an old guy's memory? Please and thanks.

Answered above, was his job but didn't pass the physical

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1 minute ago, iu eyedoc said:

I would counter that, being 63 only matters if he is good, and if so, I take 10 years of a good coach at IU any day of the week. Beyond J Howard, what successful coach right now recruits, at all, by his player past? And other than a few pie in the sky candidates, translation to the current NCAA athlete is a complete unknown. 

Recruiting is his biggest unknown and 2 time NBA HC and 25 yrs of NBA coaching is never a negative and a recruits biggest advisers, mom and dad likely do know who Woodson is.

If you are waiting on Stevens, Few, Bennett,Beard, you are likely going to be standing at the alter alone for a very long time.

 

I never said I was waiting on any of them. Do I think any of them are a better hire then Mike Woodson. Yes. If it takes him 3 years to right the ship he does not right the ship until he is 66. So at that point you might get 2 years from him you might get 7 who knows what you are going to get at that age. Then we are right back here to doing this again. Can his health hold up to the recruiting grind? A recruits mom and dad if in there 40's or 50's was at best a teenager when he was in the NBA. So I would not take it as a granted that they know who he is. 

[Trish 11,548]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

If you can explain what the heck that means you are a savant. 

Do we want a guy who had a winning percentage of 43% in his first three years as a power five coach? Heck no!, because "a percentage is a percentage." lol  (Coach K)

 

 

Well to be fair, that was on the college level, which Woodson has never coached on. I should note Coach K was probably pretty young when he took that job correct? After leaving IU under Bob Knight of course if I remember correctly. 

Woodson is an old fart. It looks like he got his first NBA head job at 43? Okay that's pretty good solid for the NBA even back in 2004. 

I think the majority of folks who are supportive of Woodson and maybe even IU players in general are old enough to remember them playing. That's fine and all but I really don't think there's a single Indiana "guy" who has the resume to take over the program today and win. The closes person would be Steve Alford. 

If we're hiring Steve Alford to bring a 6th banner here then Indiana as indeed fallen off. 

Mike Woodson doesn't have a resume. He has a connection to Indiana, that's sadly it. 

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5 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

There has been so much chatter about so many potential coaches... who remembers what "the first story" on any one (except BS) was? Can you refresh an old guy's memory? Please and thanks.

Surely you aren't confirming the agreement and failed physical, are you? (And I won't call your "Shirley" again) :D

apparently, I missed the "shirley" exchange, but that is one of my favorite movie lines ever.. I love literal humor!!

[Trish 11,548]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Answered above, was his job but didn't pass the physical

If we did indeed offer it to Matta, we're far down on the list I assume.

Thad is mostly around 4-7 on here. If it indeed true, then Beard, Drew, Mussleman have turned Indiana down. 

If all this is true, then we're hiring an Indiana guy. 

I'm going to throw up. 

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12 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Oh please, a percentage is a percentage.

His name is constantly brought up in the NBA head coaching searches but he can never land a job. There has to be a reason for that and I truly believe it's because he hasn't impressed as a HEAD coach. Current NBA teams are not hiring him to be the head coach and yet Indiana should hire him because he played at Indiana? He barely won with the best players in the world and now we're expecting him to win with generally worse players? YIKES! 

His resume doesn't stick out at all.

Tom Allen is 24-25 as a HC, he can't even produce a winning percentage with the top 5% of high school football players in the world and has never won a B1G championship or a bowl game, why did he get an extension?

His resume doesn't stick out at all.

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