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4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

If you are going to go by elite 8 appearances as a guideline for your next coach and upset with 2 Elite 8 appearances in that timeframe as a bad thing then that would be pretty high expectations.   I’m guessing only Hall of Fame coaches would have more in that time frame.   Mark Few is a decent coach and I think he only has 2 elite 8 appearances in his time at Gonzaga 

I'm not a Drew guy, but two elite eights at Baylor University is good regardless of time frame.  They had been to 1 NCAA tournament in 42 seasons before Drew and have been there 7 times under his tenure.  Factually, prior to Drew coming to Baylor, Nebraska's Big 12 history was better than Baylor's.

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1 hour ago, brumdog45 said:

I'm not a Drew guy, but two elite eights at Baylor University is good regardless of time frame.  They had been to 1 NCAA tournament in 42 seasons before Drew and have been there 7 times under his tenure.  Factually, prior to Drew coming to Baylor, Nebraska's Big 12 history was better than Baylor's.

All true and he inherited a dumpster fire program that was not only never good but was decimated. So it’s really more about the growth story to me. They’ve gotten better and more consistent over time to the point they are a real threat to win it all

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12 hours ago, CrimsonV said:

It’s hard to compare Crean who’s been a HC for 21 years to Archie who’s been one for 10. That being said one doesn’t stand out from the other.

I disagree. Crean has 3 Sweet 16s and a final four. Archie had one good run in 13/14. 

Crean, after rebuilding the first three years at IU, went to the sweet 16, 3 of 6 years, and won the conference twice. Archie has yet to place top 5 in the Big10, and hasn't made the dance. 

That said, I wasn't a big fan of Crean, but he was noticeably better than Archie.

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Watching this Cleveland St. team and Dennis Gates is going to be a good one. Impressive only in his second year and had only 4 players stay his first year. Too early for the IU gig but could be outstanding in the years to come. 

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Just now, Hoosier1984 said:

Watching this Cleveland St. team and Dennis Gates is going to be a good one. Impressive only in his second year and had only 4 players stay his first year. Too early for the IU gig but could be outstanding in the years to come. 

Maybe we should create a thread for coaching candidates in 2026. We seem to be good at not finding the right guy. Might be good to start discussing our next, next coach. 

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Just now, Hoosier1984 said:

Watching this Cleveland St. team and Dennis Gates is going to be a good one. Impressive only in his second year and had only 4 players stay his first year. NOT Too early for the IU gig AND could be outstanding FOR years to come. 


Fixed it for you.

 

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Maybe we should create a thread for coaching candidates in 2026. We seem to be good at not finding the right guy. Might be good to start discussing our next, next coach. 

I was going to say the exact same thing but didn’t want to jinx us haha

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1 minute ago, Hoosier1984 said:

Watching this Cleveland St. team and Dennis Gates is going to be a good one. Impressive only in his second year and had only 4 players stay his first year. Too early for the IU gig but could be outstanding in the years to come. 

Not advocating for Gates as I don’t know that much about him or his teams but if he gets it get gets it. Not saying he does but if you see that a guy just relates well to players, coaches, the game comes easy to him, that’s a guy you go get
 

if IU likes him but is worried he doesn’t have enough experience, don’t worry, UNC or Duke or someone will have no problem recognizing his talent if it’s there

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5 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

if IU likes him but is worried he doesn’t have enough experience, don’t worry, UNC or Duke or someone will have no problem recognizing his talent if it’s there

 

EXACTLY 

 

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2 minutes ago, Hoosier1984 said:

Watching this Cleveland St. team and Dennis Gates is going to be a good one. Impressive only in his second year and had only 4 players stay his first year. Too early for the IU gig but could be outstanding in the years to come. 

Compelling guy. Fascinating to watch  on the sideline. With the ball in play, I can’t think of a coach I’ve ever seen who interacts less with his bench. Stands 15’ up towards halfcourt with his hands on his hips or in his pockets and doesn’t talk to anyone. Never seen anything like it. I like what he’s done tonight better than last night. Last night they played several minutes of this wildly elastic matchup zone. They gave Milwaukee way too many gaps and really struggled with block out assignments because they were so aggressively stretching. Tonight’s they’ve been way more solid.

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3 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Not advocating for Gates as I don’t know that much about him or his teams but if he gets it get gets it. Not saying he does but if you see that a guy just relates well to players, coaches, the game comes easy to him, that’s a guy you go get
 

if IU likes him but is worried he doesn’t have enough experience, don’t worry, UNC or Duke or someone will have no problem recognizing his talent if it’s there

This is Gates' salary package at Cleveland St. https://www.crainscleveland.com/kevin-kleps-blog/new-cleveland-state-mens-basketball-coach-dennis-gates-gets-five-year-deal-max#:~:text=Cleveland State will give Gates,a student-athlete development coordinator.

Curious if Gates would be interested in a $500-750K associate HC position under a Beilein-ish elder statesmen and then take the reigns. This idea will all go to waste when CSU makes the tourney, gets the annual 13 over 4 upset and takes a $2 mn/yr gig at BC or another small Power 5/Multi Bid Conference(A10/Big East/AAC) job.

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Compelling guy. Fascinating to watch  on the sideline. With the ball in play, I can’t think of a coach I’ve ever seen who interacts less with his bench. Stands 15’ up towards halfcourt with his hands on his hips or in his pockets and doesn’t talk to anyone. Never seen anything like it. I like what he’s done tonight better than last night. Last night they played several minutes of this wildly elastic matchup zone. They gave Milwaukee way too many gaps and really struggled with block out assignments because they were so aggressively stretching. Tonight’s they’ve been way more solid.

He’s been quoted as saying that making adjustments is paramount to success.

 

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1 minute ago, LIHoosier said:

This is Gates' salary package at Cleveland St. https://www.crainscleveland.com/kevin-kleps-blog/new-cleveland-state-mens-basketball-coach-dennis-gates-gets-five-year-deal-max#:~:text=Cleveland State will give Gates,a student-athlete development coordinator.

Curious if Gates would be interested in a $500-750K associate HC position under a Beilein-ish elder statesmen and then take the reigns. This idea will all go to waste when CSU makes the tourney, gets the annual 13 over 4 upset and takes a $2 mn/yr gig at BC or another small Power 5/Multi Bid Conference(A10/Big East/AAC) job.

Nope. He was FSU’s top assistant already.

Someone is gonna pop for him. Someone who will make him a P5 head coach.

 

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