woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 Cal has proven he can win differently than he has now. He did it at UMass and he did it at Memphis. And he was still in charge of 2 programs that got in trouble. People can argue all they want that it was others in his program. Ultimately he is the man in charge. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk mamasa, Class of '66 Old Fart and Stuhoo 3
Popular Post mamasa Posted January 21, 2021 Popular Post Posted January 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: I couldn’t care less about his postgame comments if he delivers the results he’s delivered at UK. After making just four tournaments since 2008, it would be a welcome change. My main reason for not wanting Beard is that he was IUGradman was his #1 fan, lol Hoosierfan2017, ALASKA HOOSIER, 8bucks and 6 others 3 6
8bucks Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Stuhoo said: Just saying...Archie at Dayton had proven himself infinitely more than Oats at Buffalo/Bama. And Oats would cost more than Archie to hire. That's not me saying 'no' to Oats--I think he's an up and comer and would have a chance of being that 25 year star coach. I will challenge the "infinitely" part. Oats achieved 3 NCAAs with the round of 32 twice and round of 64 once. Archie achieved 1 elite 8, 1 round of 32 and 2 rounds of 64. So Archie's elite 8 is a biggie but I think Oats is closer than how you described it.
Stuhoo Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, 8bucks said: I will challenge the "infinitely" part. Oats achieved 3 NCAAs with the round of 32 twice and round of 64 once. Archie achieved 1 elite 8, 1 round of 32 and 2 rounds of 64. So Archie's elite 8 is a biggie but I think Oats is closer than how you described it. In a better (though not Power 5) conference. And, as Brass said, things are going very well at Bama for him this year. So, maybe not infinitely, but better.
Unexpectedflash Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 Alabama also has a top 15 adjusted offense and defense on kenpom this year which are both championship level caliber. I remember one of the biggest things with Archie was that he had never proven to be able to coach a championship level offense at Dayton. MemphisHoosier, lillurk and Stuhoo 3
HoosierAloha Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 How much of Bama dominating the $EC is the conference being “down” this season? pUKe’s GM didn’t come through with the right off season free agent acquisitions, UF lost their best player, UT swimming in COVID, L$U being down, etc. I’d like to see more out of Oats, which might align more with when Archie is looking for new employment. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 Kentucky fans are delusional Stevens and Donavon would leave the NBA too.https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/jay-wright-nate-oats-mark-few-brad-stevens-billy-donovan-which-of-these-coaches-would-you-want-if-calipari-left-at-the-end-of-this-season.336904/Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk
coonhounds Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 Kentucky fans are delusional Stevens and Donavon would leave the NBA too.https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/jay-wright-nate-oats-mark-few-brad-stevens-billy-donovan-which-of-these-coaches-would-you-want-if-calipari-left-at-the-end-of-this-season.336904/Sent from my SM-G975U using TapatalkI would make fun but undoubtedly the way our luck is going the past 34 years they would just causeSent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk mamasa 1
lillurk Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 1. SEC may be down but Kenpom etc. are adjusted for opponent, home vs. road, so on. 2. If they’re to be believed, Archie never had a team nearly as good as Oats’ last Buffalo team or this Alabama team. That’s especially true on offense. 3. You hire coaches for what they will do, not what they’ve done. Of course the past is prologue, but “Oats hasn’t won anything” is a weird measuring stick. He clearly has a scheme, finds talent, turns a program quickly. If he’s good at those things, the milestones will come. I just hope they come at IU.
CrossboneIU22 Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 I haven’t had a chance to get caught up on this thread so I apologize if this has already been said but here is what I would look for in a new coach when one is needed: 1. A coach who develops players and finds ways to get the most out of his players. 2. A coach who really understands X’s and O’s on both ends of the court but especially Offense. 3. A coach that wins with lesser talent. (The talent will be easier to get at a school like IU, but you cannot just rely on that talent) 4. A coach who adapts to the teams strength from year to year, team to team. 5. A coach that has shown he can build a program You find someone who meets these requirements and I really think you will have a coach who is successful and brings IU back to the big stage consistently. Everything else will fall in place. lillurk and HoosierAloha 2
NashvilleHoosier Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 Shut this thread down. Just like we’ve been telling you fools. Archie is our guy, just be patient b/c we will knock off a top 5 team on the road this season. Exactly what we’ve been saying all along. #pumper mamasa, RatpigHoosier, ALASKA HOOSIER and 1 other 2 1 1
8bucks Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 Guys I can’t believe you have been thinking about such a thing as a coaching change. Ha ha 1 stop at a time back on the Archie train. Str8Hoosiers, mamasa, NashvilleHoosier and 2 others 4 1
LIHoosier Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, 8bucks said: Guys I can’t believe you have been thinking about such a thing as a coaching change. Ha ha 1 stop at a time back on the Archie train. How about Archie beats the other black and gold team once and then we can start the choo-choo.
Hoosierfan2017 Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 Archie isn't ready to leave Bloomington yet. Can't blame him. Chris007 1
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Archie isn't ready to leave Bloomington yet. Can't blame him. The question is, why can't this be the energy every single game? Class of '66 Old Fart 1
Trish Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 THE ARCHIE MILLER BANDWAGON HAS FIXED IT'S BLOWN TIRE! WE'RE BACK ON THE ROAD! HoosierAloha, Str8Hoosiers and IUc2016 3
cthomas Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 Don't know if it's just me, but CAM seemed more feisty than usual in his post game presser. Even cut one questioner off mid question. woodenshoemanHoosierfan, ALASKA HOOSIER and HoosierAloha 3
IUc2016 Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Treesh said: THE ARCHIE MILLER BANDWAGON HAS FIXED IT'S BLOWN TIRE! WE'RE BACK ON THE ROAD! Haha I love Archie, have always been one of his biggest supporters/defenders but we need some consistency. Last night was awesome, but lets keep it going. Beat Rutger. HoosierAloha, jk34, kottke and 2 others 5
Bowhunter Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 Happy for the team and coaching staff for a great win! I am very confused at what I just witnessed. Consistency will keep the lights on. I will be happy to eat crow if Archie is the answer. IU basketball when I was growing up was Indiana consistently in the tournament and around the top of the Big 10. That’s what I am hoping for moving forward.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners lillurk, ALASKA HOOSIER and HoosierAloha 3
Honkyman Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 Happy for the great win at Iowa. I hope IU is turning the corner. However, one game is not the measure of a successful season. After similarly defeating Iowa last year, IU was blown out by Michigan in the very next game. Hoping for the best the rest of the season. But based on the pattern over Archie's tenure, one can't help but fear the worst. lillurk and JaybobHoosier 2
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