Bracketology and Team Resumes

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Rutgers fans are mad at the following teams...

-Providence

-Nevada

-Utah State

And yes... All 3 of those teams have better resumes than Rutgers. 

[RaceToTheTop]

2 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

I went against almost everything that keeps teams out and still had Rutgers in.   I knew better but put them in anyway.     They had the worst non con sos at 314.  Usually anytime over 300 and you’re on the bubble means no bid.    Take away Q4 games and they were 12-14.   Not being over .500 for Q1-Q3 means no bid. 3-7 since Mag injury and only 1 Q1 win    I ignored these and put them in anyway.  This year needed bid stealers in the worst way.     

I know the committee ending up even having Oklahoma State ahead of them as first team out.  Certainly a strong case that Vanderbilt should be in before them as well.

[go iu bb]

16 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I don't think it was.  The dude has over 35,000 posts on a Rutgers.message.board.

His follow-up gem later in the thread was:

I would be happy to accept our fate if the process was impartial and fair. In this case, the NCAA tournament selection process has proven to be flawed, resulting in irreparable harm to Rutgers if this result stands. This could adversely affect recruiting going forward. We should not accept results from an inaccurate/flawed process.

- The crux of the issue is this:

The committee improperly weighted our Quad 3 losses while discounting our significant wins, especially our Victory over #1 Seed Purdue. This was reported to be the biggest reason we were excluded. The selection committee should taking into account the totality of our resume, and not cherry-picking data points they think relevant.

Ahhhh, poor Rutger.

Counterpoint to the the Rutger fan: screw Rutger. Also, the totality of their resume wasn't good enough. The OOC portion was a total joke. Did I mention screw Rutger?

 

[RaceToTheTop]

11 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I believe that's puts you both ahead of Lunardi?

Credit where credit is due......bracketmatrix hasn't posted scores yet, but Lunardi's beat USPS and mine.  He had a 367, his highest score by 10 points.

[HoosierHoopster]

51 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Credit where credit is due......bracketmatrix hasn't posted scores yet, but Lunardi's beat USPS and mine.  He had a 367, his highest score by 10 points.

Surprising, he’s usually middle of the pack

[HoosierAloha]

Who do you have in your group of ~10 teams who can win it all?

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 hour ago, HoosierAloha said:

Who do you have in your group of ~10 teams who can win it all?

1. Kansas

2. Alabama

3. Arizona

4. Texas

5. Gonzaga

6. Houston depending on Sasser's health

7.UCLA----maybe depending if they can adequately replace Clark?

8. Duke-Talent and hot streak...coaching?

9. Marquette- Maybe, but im not a believer

10. Uconn-  I like them but their road would be tough

 

[IUHoosierJoe]

1 hour ago, HoosierAloha said:

Who do you have in your group of ~10 teams who can win it all?

Based on some tried and true historical metrics: Houston, Alabama, Connecticut, and Texas are in my inner circle.  Close to the circle are UCLA, Kansas, Creighton, and a school I won't name in this sort of a conversation, lol.

[str8baller]

5 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

Who do you have in your group of ~10 teams who can win it all?

Generally you want to be top 25-ish in offense and defense efficiency as measured by Kenpom. 

[HoosierAloha]

40 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Generally you want to be top 25-ish in offense and defense efficiency as measured by Kenpom. 

Is this before the tournament starts or does it include a possible tourney run?

[RaceToTheTop]

7 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

Is this before the tournament starts or does it include a possible tourney run?

Before.  I think like 85 to 90% of the time a team in the top 25 of both offense and defensive efficiency wins the title.

This year it would be:

Connecticut (O:  6, D 18)

Houston (O: 11, D 4)

Texas (O 18, D 11)

Alabama (O 19, D 3)

UCLA (O 25, D 1)

Much shorter list than in past years.  Purdue just misses it -- O 7, D 26, as do Creighton (O 28, D 15) and Kansas (O 29, D 7)

 

[TheWatShot]

1 minute ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Before.  I think like 85 to 90% of the time a team in the top 25 of both offense and defensive efficiency wins the title.

This year it would be:

Connecticut (O:  6, D 18)

Houston (O: 11, D 4)

Texas (O 18, D 11)

Alabama (O 19, D 3)

UCLA (O 25, D 1)

Much shorter list than in past years.  Purdue just misses it -- O 7, D 2, as do Creighton (O 28, D 15) and Kansas (O 29, D 7)

 

I did some research on this recently. The only national champion to not rank in the top 25 for both was 2014 UConn, who was 39th in offense and 10th in defense. 

[hoosierdogg]

On 3/13/2023 at 8:25 PM, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Rutgers fans are mad at the following teams...

-Providence

-Nevada

-Utah State

And yes... All 3 of those teams have better resumes than Rutgers. 

You can add Hofstra to that list!

[str8baller]

On 3/14/2023 at 2:57 PM, HoosierAloha said:

Is this before the tournament starts or does it include a possible tourney run?

I think when I looked at it I used end of season because I don’t have a premium membership. That’s why I added the “-ish” because you could be a team hovering around 25+ range, but ultimately a 6 game run shouldn’t boost a team too much. 

 

20 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

I did some research on this recently. The only national champion to not rank in the top 25 for both was 2014 UConn, who was 39th in offense and 10th in defense. 

And they went on an insane run with Kemba being a one man show on offense. So unless you get something crazy like that the metric holds up pretty well. 

[Uspshoosier]

https://x.com/marchmadnessmbb/status/1707448398872256858?s=46

[Uspshoosier]

https://x.com/davidworlock/status/1730269132296192100?s=46

[IU_FanClub]

Going to need someone to explain to me Andy (idiot) Katz's reasoning for having Nebraska as a 10 seed lol

[RaceToTheTop]

4 hours ago, IU_FanClub said:

Going to need someone to explain to me Andy (idiot) Katz's reasoning for having Nebraska as a 10 seed lol

Although it hasn't been a tough schedule, they are 7-0.  Pom currently projects them to finish 20-11 and 10-10 in conference.

[yogisballin]

On 11/30/2023 at 4:15 PM, RaceToTheTop said:

Although it hasn't been a tough schedule, they are 7-0.  Pom currently projects them to finish 20-11 and 10-10 in conference.

They just got their ***** handed to em at home to creighton. They’ve played nobody

[Uspshoosier]

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_rankings/nitty_gritties/34128
 

IU starts its NET journey out at 137