2019 Off-Season IU Roster News and Moves

[Hoosierfan2017]

5 minutes ago, Aeggie said:

He didn't live up to his draft position but he has been in the league for seven years which is well over the average length of an NBA career. He certainly didn't leave college too early, staying wasn't going to make him anymore capable of becoming an NBA all-star. He's just not special enough physically at that level. 

He might "only" make 20 or 30 million in his career but I know I wouldn't consider that a failure, personally. 

His physical attributes aren't the problem. He has great size for a point guard at 6'6. His problem was that he's a point guard who can't shoot. Career 40/25/70 splits and a career 47% TS%. He's played for 6 teams in 7 seasons and hasn't played more than 54 games in a year over the past four years. He wasn't some second round or unstaffed player. He was a lottery pick. Maybe staying wouldn't have helped him at all, but it wasn't an outrageous thing for Boeheim to say when you look at how his career has panned out. 

[Deserthoozier]

37 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

MCW is also widely regarded as a bust, so probably not the best example to use. 

Agree. A pretty well compensated Bust!

[Hoosierfan2017]

11 minutes ago, Deserthoozier said:

Agree. A pretty well compensated Bust!

If money is all that matters then not even Anthony Bennett was a bust. Romeo is predicted to be drafted in a similar position as MCW. If he follows the same career trajectory then pretty much everyone would agree that his career was disappointing. 

[Aeggie]

35 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

His physical attributes aren't the problem. He has great size for a point guard at 6'6. His problem was that he's a point guard who can't shoot. Career 40/25/70 splits and a career 47% TS%. He's played for 6 teams in 7 seasons and hasn't played more than 54 games in a year over the past four years. He wasn't some second round or unstaffed player. He was a lottery pick. Maybe staying wouldn't have helped him at all, but it wasn't an outrageous thing for Boeheim to say when you look at how his career has panned out. 

He's been in the league for 7 years which means he's almost certainly been practicing and working on becoming a better basketball player for 50 or 60 hours per week. If he was capable of developing a shot, it would've happened by now. People can't see hand-eye coordination like they can length or height but people have maximum potential there just like in physical categories. I say all of that to say that I've never heard of MCW not being a hard worker so it looks like he's maximizing his potential. I didn't say Boeheim said anything outrageous, but I thought he was wrong at the time and still think he's wrong in hindsight. The point was that reasonable basketball minds frequently disagree on players.

[Deserthoozier]

27 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

If money is all that matters then not even Anthony Bennett was a bust. Romeo is predicted to be drafted in a similar position as MCW. If he follows the same career trajectory then pretty much everyone would agree that his career was disappointing. 

Truth! And if we’ll managed, his family will be set for generations.

[MikeRoberts]

Excuse me, but where in the rule does it say anything about top 100 players only?
And you had better believe the NBA casts a much, much, much broader net to find their players than the top 100 NCAA and international players. The idea that scouts find this process annoying doesn't reflect any conversation I've ever had with a scout.
It's also ridiculous to think that they're going to get the same advice from Archie that they'd get from the league just because we know Archie is a quality coach. They might, they might not. Put a quality player in front of ten quality coaches and they are going to have some different opinions as coaching philosophies obviously vary. Boeheim, a quality coach, thought Michael Carter-Williams wasn't ready for the NBA... Carter-Williams is in his 7th season in the league now. So there's some evidence that a quality coach might disagree with other quality coaching assessments, if you needed any.

I will excuse you for quoting my post and then fabricating your own narrative to reply to. I said none of the things you argue against


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[DChoosier]

11 hours ago, Deserthoozier said:

Agree. A pretty well compensated Bust!

He is 27 and through  the end of this season (his 6th) his total career earnings are 14,250,000.

I’ll have to check old pay stubs but I think that is at least double what I made by the time I was 27. :) 

[RatpigHoosier]

This is probably the most popular thread right now so I’ll use it to wish all of you a Happy Easter. Enjoy your day!


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[LamarCheeks]

I'm on a silly IU facebook fan page -- mostly for amusement purposes. Anyway, a fan (whom I don't know) posted a picture of himself and Justin. Said in his comments that Justin was a very respectful young man. But what got me curious was the cast on Justin's right hand/arm. ... He didn't punch someone, too, did he? LOL! (Seriously, anybody know what happened?)

[HoosierHoops1]

43 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

I'm on a silly IU facebook fan page -- mostly for amusement purposes. Anyway, a fan (whom I don't know) posted a picture of himself and Justin. Said in his comments that Justin was a very respectful young man. But what got me curious was the cast on Justin's right hand/arm. ... He didn't punch someone, too, did he? LOL! (Seriously, anybody know what happened?)

He shot 21.9% from 3. I assume it's because he saw how the wrap elevated Romeo's 3 ball by over 5%.

[RaceToTheTop]

3 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

I'm on a silly IU facebook fan page -- mostly for amusement purposes. Anyway, a fan (whom I don't know) posted a picture of himself and Justin. Said in his comments that Justin was a very respectful young man. But what got me curious was the cast on Justin's right hand/arm. ... He didn't punch someone, too, did he? LOL! (Seriously, anybody know what happened?)

I heard a guy who considered himself a Romeo slept with Justin's girlfriend and Justin punched a wall.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Am I the only one worried that Smith and/or Anderson might bail on us at the proverbial last minute leaving us further in a bind to fill next season's roster?  Realistically, they don't have to officially place their names in the Transfer Portal if they already know where their next landing spot is.  The Transfer Portal is nothing more than an auction house.

[Capt. Crimson]

7 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Am I the only one worried that Smith and/or Anderson might bail on us at the proverbial last minute leaving us further in a bind to fill next season's roster?  Realistically, they don't have to officially place their names in the Transfer Portal if they already know where their next landing spot is.  The Transfer Portal is nothing more than an auction house.

Smith has a lot of potential... think his problem is more motivation driven. 

Anderson looked pretty lost last season when he played. I hope he can make a jump this year. 

[8bucks]

Am I the only one worried that Smith and/or Anderson might bail on us at the proverbial last minute leaving us further in a bind to fill next season's roster?  Realistically, they don't have to officially place their names in the Transfer Portal if they already know where their next landing spot is.  The Transfer Portal is nothing more than an auction house.

I am more worried they stay but wish they had left. We need kids to stay around and get better in the off-season. Something we really haven’t seen much of yet. So if they stay, hopefully they buy in and work.


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[Hornsby]

Am I the only one worried that Smith and/or Anderson might bail on us at the proverbial last minute leaving us further in a bind to fill next season's roster?  Realistically, they don't have to officially place their names in the Transfer Portal if they already know where their next landing spot is.  The Transfer Portal is nothing more than an auction house.

My biggest worry is the lack of three point shooting. I dont see that beins addresses

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[Uspshoosier]

Something to keep track of is the front runner for the NKU job isn’t taking it and another one turned it down so Ostrom’s chances of getting the job look a little better now then it did yesterday.

 

 

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[Feathery]

18 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

My biggest worry is the lack of three point shooting. I dont see that beins addresses

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We will be looking at the guys on the roster to improve. 

Green is already above 40%

Durham already jumped his shot 7% from his freshman year. Another decent jump and he is above 40%. 

Phinisee, healthy, is a 35% or greater shooter next year. 

Those are the 3 guys who will be playing the most minutes regardless of recruits we are looking at to play in the backcourt. 

The hope is a healthy Hunter adds another shooter who is shooting 35/40%. 

[Uspshoosier]

Something to keep track of is the front runner for the NKU job isn’t taking it and another one turned it down so Ostrom’s chances of getting the job look a little better now then it did yesterday.
 
 
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Scratch that NKU hires Darrin Horn as its next coach


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[HoosierInParadise]

I know we need a shooter in the worst way and losing Harris doesn't help, but I can't understand the argument that we NEED more talent to win. Everyone coming back and our recruiting class coming in is a 4 or 5 star (according to 247) coming out of high school except Green, Durham, and Franklin. We have talent, just need development and togetherness. Watford and LQ would be great if it happens, but we really just need guys that are sold out for IU, can shoot the rock, and play nasty D.

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[Crimson and Cream]

15 minutes ago, Feathery said:

We will be looking at the guys on the roster to improve. 

Green is already above 40%

Durham already jumped his shot 7% from his freshman year. Another decent jump and he is above 40%. 

Phinisee, healthy, is a 35% or greater shooter next year. 

Those are the 3 guys who will be playing the most minutes regardless of recruits we are looking at to play in the backcourt. 

The hope is a healthy Hunter adds another shooter who is shooting 35/40%. 

Working the offense to get better looks from 3 would help too. Hopefully Archie spends time reworking the offense this summer like he's done with the defense.