IUBB @ MSU- Game Thread

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[JSHoosier]

For as aggravating as Smith was at times, he had a pretty big game with a double double.  13 points, 10 rebounds with 3 blocks and 2 assists for good measure.  Morgan was well on his way to another double double, he had 5 points and 6 boards.

Forrester didn't play a lot of minutes, but contributed 2 points, 4 boards and a block.

Great game overall.

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1 hour ago, jbell833 said:

Do we play better without Morgan??? Maybe we play better team ball and don't try to force it down low every possession. Did Crean ever win at MSU?


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My answer is, no, they do not. 

Indiana was in this game from the start (even while Juwan was playing).  He had 5 points, 6 rebounds, and two assists in 13 minutes.  The team as a whole just played better from start to finish than they have in a long while.  The team blocked out (48 rebounds) and chased down loose balls.  The team knocked down shots from outside (50%).  The team played better defense and limited turnovers (only 13).  I don't believe the improved play was because Juwan had to leave the game prematurely.  Perhaps the team rallied a bit more because of his injury, but either way, they played hard and with a different energy from the start than we've been seeing.  And, as relieved I am to say that, it irritates me and makes me wonder how many of the losses could have been victories had the team played with this same fire in their guts all season.  

Whatever the reason, whether they felt a desperation to get a win or because the coaching staff was finally able to light a fire under their *sses, they won with a strong effort and a lot of energy.  If the latter, then I hope their *sses aren't allowed to cool off any.

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1 hour ago, schoosier said:

Yes 3 big ones at the end. I haven’t seen his minutes but he played a lot just coming back. His play along with us hitting some big 3s, rebounding and Mich St awful free throw shooting was the difference. 

12 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists and 1 block in 25 minutes.

[HoosierAloha]

My answer is, no, they do not. 
Indiana was in this game from the start (even while Juwan was playing).  He had 5 points, 6 rebounds, and two assists in 13 minutes.  The team as a whole just played better from start to finish than they have in a long while.  The team blocked out (48 rebounds) and chased down loose balls.  The team knocked down shots from outside (50%).  The team played better defense and limited turnovers (only 13).  I don't believe the improved play was because Juwan had to leave the game prematurely.  Perhaps the team rallied a bit more because of his injury, but either way, they played hard and with a different energy from the start than we've been seeing.  And, as relieved I am to say that, it irritates me and makes me wonder how many of the losses could have been victories had the team played with this same fire in their guts all season.  
Whatever the reason, whether they felt a desperation to get a win or because the coaching staff was finally able to light a fire under their *sses, they won with a strong effort and a lot of energy.  If the latter, then I hope their *sses aren't allowed to cool off any.

This is where I’m at. If we would have seen this effort for whole games we could have easily been 7-4 in conference rather than 4-7. I hope this team doesn’t believe that they should win just because they play hard but that you play hard to have a chance to win. There are opportunities to go in the right direction but there needs to be consistent effort.


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[LamarCheeks]

I wonder: Does Izzo still have a burr up his butt that his pal Crean got fired? I listened to about three-quarters of his post-game presser and it was all about how it was his fault they lost, they haven't been practicing well because they're afraid of injury, etc. The only bit of credit he gave us was to say that Devonte played pretty well. C'mon, man -- for the first time in a long time, our fellas played their a$$es off. And you wanna talk about injuries and getting hurt -- we lost probably our most important player in the first half and he didn't return, on top of missing Hunter all season and Thompson for about 99 percent of it. And De'Ron is very limited (though he was a lion tonight), McBob was a no-go and has been ailing all season and Rob sat out for about three weeks. Don't cry to me about injuries. We're the poster child for wounded hoopsters. 

[RaceToTheTop]

Went to the Red Cedars board for Michigan State and read their game thread.  Great read.  Half think the refs were on the take (LOL) but pretty much to a man they thought IU deserved to win and played much harder.

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2 hours ago, reconmkd said:

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I believe he's been shown to have some connections in the past, yes?

[pappy1865]

Do we play better without Morgan??? Maybe we play better team ball and don't try to force it down low every possession. Did Crean ever win at MSU?


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Again, watched most of the game while making dough bartending (over 300 in tips on an 1100 dollar bar....) Deliberately scrolled back to quote this. Saw in the horrid Facebook page the same thing. Not saying anything against you jbell, but the hate shown towards Morgan on that page was insane. Just plain stupid. Morgan goes the whole game? It's over in regulation. On the page they're suggesting HE'S the problem in the locker room. Sorry. Not buying it. Had a good crowd at the Shrine bar for the end with several rounds of shots bought after!



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[Rico]

Soooooo......I just walked off the ice.  What did I miss?

[Bailey7878]

This is where I’m at. If we would have seen this effort for whole games we could have easily been 7-4 in conference rather than 4-7. I hope this team doesn’t believe that they should win just because they play hard but that you play hard to have a chance to win. There are opportunities to go in the right direction but there needs to be consistent effort.


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We need the next two at home and the ncaa could still hapen but we gotta hold iowa down. They can score.

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[Whoozhers]

MSU 8 of 22 from the line. Thank you Spartans!



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[schoosier]

7 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

 

I wonder: Does Izzo still have a burr up his butt that his pal Crean got fired?

 

Yes, only because his hand picked replacement whom he regularly destroyed no longer coaches at Indiana. Izzo did say IU deserved to win albeit took most of his presser to say it. He also said it was his fault for the team not being prepared and that they had a bad week of practice. His mentor always had a difficult time saying that first part. Obviously, he was very subdued; but I can’t help but feel he knows Indiana is on our way back. Recruiting is the key and keeping KB home and other Hoosier greats from playing at MSU really hurts his program.

[Hillsdale87]

Green hit some big shots, but he should NEVER be the primary ball handler.

Agreed that it's not ideal, but in a game where Phinisee isn't giving you anything, I'm not sure we've got a better option. Green and Durham needed to be playing over him. Romeo makes just as many head scratching decisions, and Al is just not a good enough ball handler to consistently deal with the defensive pressure.

He wasn't recruited as a PG, and it's pretty clear why. He has some PG skills and probably has the best court vision on the team, but he's too loose with the ball at times. He actually made the right decision on that step through, but was just too careless about it.


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[Whoozhers]

Down goes Sparty and Wolverines same day in the Mitten State!!! [emoji106][emoji459]


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[Walking Boot of Doom]

Yes, only because his hand picked replacement whom he regularly destroyed no longer coaches at Indiana. Izzo did say IU deserved to win albeit took most of his presser to say it. He also said it was his fault for the team not being prepared and that they had a bad week of practice. His mentor always had a difficult time saying that first part. Obviously, he was very subdued; but I can’t help but feel he knows Indiana is on our way back. Recruiting is the key and keeping KB home and other Hoosier greats from playing at MSU really hurts his program.

He’s pissed cuz Archie took it to him in East Lansing and will deal him another blow when Keion commits.

Izzo is a scumbag too. Look at the stuff that’s gone on in his program with zero consequences...


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[Hoosier Guy]

I hope Michigan State loses every game. That entire university is scum

[Whoozhers]

Nice to spoil their Espn Game Day fest! Cheery on the cheesecake [emoji106]
Way to go HOOSIERS!!![emoji459]


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[HoosierAloha]

Nice to spoil their Espn Game Day fest! Cheery on the cheesecake [emoji106]
Way to go HOOSIERS!!![emoji459]


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I read somewhere that IU is 3-0 on College Gamedays. That can’t be accurate can it? I remember the one against Michigan at home but what was the other one?


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[Uspshoosier]

I read somewhere that IU is 3-0 on College Gamedays. That can’t be accurate can it? I remember the one against Michigan at home but what was the other one?


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Michigan St 2008


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