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OliviaPope40

IUBB @ Duke- 11/27 @ 9:30

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Has Romeo honestly looked NBA ready to you at all this season? I love that he’s humble and soft spoken, but I haven’t seen any fire like a guy projected to play in the NBA next year. I think he comes back for another year knowing he’s getting two five stars to come leave a legacy at IU similar to Cody. Don’t forget, we have a Top 50 freshman out injured, and a really good young PG getting valuable experience this year. Listen, Duke is an NBA G-League team. Let’s just admit that and stop wondering why we can’t compete. If the one and some rule doesn’t exist their starting lineup wouldn’t be here. Archie is fine. Our system is fine. We’re just getting smoked by the McDonald’s All-American team. Take your beating and move on. Kentucky did. 

Gonzaga didn’t. They competed every single play. They also played smart basketball. Neither of which we are remotely doing.


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You know I thought DeRon did alright when he wasn’t hacking. Fitzner outside of shooting the ball.... Never ever should he bring the ball up. I’m starting to see a lot of Troy Williams in Justin Smith. He’s either going to be zero or hero. Robert Phinsee I think hasn’t played too bad. You knew the refs would take Juwan out of the game. You have to beat Duke at Duke with your best player on the bench. Never have I watched a game at Duke where a team’s best player isn’t in foul trouble by half. I would like IU to clean it up in the second half. Take the momentum carry it to Northwestern. People saying fire Archie... Please..... Archie still has Crean’s players... Oh and uh majority of his team is young. Wait 4 years before saying anything. 

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Has Romeo honestly looked NBA ready to you at all this season? I love that he’s humble and soft spoken, but I haven’t seen any fire like a guy projected to play in the NBA next year. I think he comes back for another year knowing he’s getting two five stars to come leave a legacy at IU similar to Cody. Don’t forget, we have a Top 50 freshman out injured, and a really good young PG getting valuable experience this year. Listen, Duke is an NBA G-League team. Let’s just admit that and stop wondering why we can’t compete. If the one and some rule doesn’t exist their starting lineup wouldn’t be here. Archie is fine. Our system is fine. We’re just getting smoked by the McDonald’s All-American team. Take your beating and move on. Kentucky did. 
LMAO Romeo is gone!!!!!

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We need the 2019 class to be a knockout one. We don't have a single returning player next year besides those from the 2018 class to build with. No strength, shooting, or court awareness. Does anyone expect Justin Smith or Green to take freshmen under their wing next year and show them how it's done?

This is going to get worse before it gets better. Still have a pretty decent shot at the NCAAs this year but then Morgan and Romeo are gone. It's nice to have Romeo this year but it's more shine than substance regarding where this program is at right now. We need thick upperclassmen to push 5* freshmen around a la the way Adrien Payne did at MSU. Phinisee is who the next three years should be built around. Get him some shooters, slashers, and size, and then let him facilitate playing 28 mins a night. 

I don't question what Archie is trying to do. I just think that this is going to take a few years for him to really get a foundation set. Other than Morgan, Crean left him nothing to work with. This isn't going to be a Kentucky or Duke reload. It is a rebuild but if fans are patient enough we should get there, and it'll look more like Gonzaga with the occasional one-and-done type talent sprinkled in than a Duke or Kentucky, which is fine by me. That's how you have sustained success.

Only Duke can really even play the freshmen-heavy card these days anyway. There just aren't enough kids like that to go around and they tend to cluster around one or two programs. The college basketball landscape is going to change dramatically over the next 5 or so years with K and Roy likely retiring and the end of one-and-done. If IU fans want long term sustained success we need to ride out these rough patches early on. Quality upperclassmen win big games. We have one.

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1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Archie is going to have to start winning me over.

I’ve been giving blind faith. No mas.

Archie’s job is to be able to compete with Dukes and beat them on occasion. We are miles away.



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Can you imagine next year without Brooks or TJD? I don’t see any possibility we are better next year..

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1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Archie is going to have to start winning me over.

I’ve been giving blind faith. No mas.

Archie’s job is to be able to compete with Dukes and beat them on occasion. We are miles away.



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Well we almost beat Duke last year.

And to be fair, this Duke team annihilated Kentucky in a neutral court environment.

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16 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

This is just a simple case of men vs. boys. They're bigger, stronger and better at every position. 

Since they’re hyping the general, I don’t think he could take ours and beat theres. Green would not be playing and Smith would set picks and shoot 7’ bank shots. Non effort would not be tolerated either.

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1 minute ago, Hoosier Guy said:

It was a bad first half. We’ll see what happens to begin the second half. IU will be fine either way. But I want to see marked improvement in the four categories I mentioned

I love your optimism man. I really do. It’s better than the alternative, imo. But man! You really serve yourself up on a silver platter sometimes brotha. 

And this team is bad. Really bad. Time for you to start tempering your expectations. We turn the ball over as bad as a Tom Crean led team (against good and bad teams) and score the ball worse than the Vonleh/Stanford Robinson team. 

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1 minute ago, Magnanimous said:

We need the 2019 class to be a knockout one. We don't have a single returning player next year besides those from the 2018 class to build with. No strength, shooting, or court awareness. Does anyone expect Justin Smith or Green to take freshmen under their wing next year and show them how it's done?

This is going to get worse before it gets better. Still have a pretty decent shot at the NCAAs this year but then Morgan and Romeo are gone. It's nice to have Romeo this year but it's more shine than substance regarding where this program is at right now. We need thick upperclassmen to push 5* freshmen around a la the way Adrien Payne did at MSU. Phinisee is who the next three years should be built around. Get him some shooters, slashers, and size, and then let him facilitate playing 28 mins a night. 

I don't question what Archie is trying to do. I just think that this is going to take a few years for him to really get a foundation set. Other than Morgan, Crean left him nothing to work with. This isn't going to be a Kentucky or Duke reload. It is a rebuild but if fans are patient enough we should get there, and it'll look more like Gonzaga with the occasional one-and-done type talent sprinkled in than a Duke or Kentucky, which is fine by me. That's how you have sustained success.

Only Duke can really even play the freshmen-heavy card these days anyway. There just aren't enough kids like that to go around and they tend to cluster around one or two programs. The college basketball landscape is going to change dramatically over the next 5 or so years with K and Roy likely retiring and the end of one-and-done. If IU fans want long term sustained success we need to ride out these rough patches early on. Quality upperclassmen win big games. We have one.

Smith and Green teaching freshmen how it's done?  Who's going to teach those two how it's done?

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