(2021) PG Khristian Lander to Western Kentucky U.

[Walking Boot of Doom]

Michigan is to be feared with Howard and Boosters back in the fray. Watch out, not just for Lander but in general.


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Meh. Let’s see how he is as a coach.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Meh. Let’s see how he is as a coach.


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I think we get Lander, but I think the 5 star market is open for business at UM again. Coaching? Eh, we will see but talent can win despite if you have enough of it.


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[goonaha]

Back from suspension to ring the money bell. So original.

[Walking Boot of Doom]

I think we get Lander, but I think the 5 star market is open for business at UM again. Coaching? Eh, we will see but talent can win despite if you have enough of it.


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There are only a couple programs able to go that route: UK and Duke. I don’t see Michigan being there ever.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

There are only a couple programs able to go that route: UK and Duke. I don’t see Michigan being there ever.

 

 

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Kansas, UNC, Arizona. UCLA off and on. Lowkey Michigan State. Syracuse of yesteryear. Memphis trying to play it this year. We’ll see on Michigan.

 

I don’t put it past Ohio State or Michigan when it comes to athletics.

 

 

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[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Khristian Lander @khristianlander

Wolverines we here!

 

And in response:

TJD @TrayceJackson

Nah

 

[SlamaJamaSisley]

55 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Khristian Lander @khristianlander

Wolverines we here!

 

And in response:

TJD @TrayceJackson

Nah

 

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Memphis offered.

[HinnyHoosier]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Memphis offered.

As expected.

But man, they are becoming yet another turd that just won't flush. (Yes, an uncouth reference. But it's end of week and my patience is thin!)

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Screw Memphis. How about that?


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[HinnyHoosier]

 

 

Anyone happen to catch this?

 

Edit: I don’t have IG otherwise I’d try to look it up

 

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[FCHoosier]

1 hour ago, HinnyHoosier said:

 

 

Anyone happen to catch this?

 

Edit: I don’t have IG otherwise I’d try to look it up

 

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IG Live recap:

Three schools recruiting him hardest are the three schools he has taken an official to (IU, UL, Michigan). Indiana visit was taken to build relationship with coaches and not necessarily to win him over with campus/facilities as he has been there many times over the years. Talks to coaches about twice a week. Leal and Galloway are on him often about teaming up. Mentioned he is around a lot of people who would like to see him at IU but doesn’t feel the pressure. The Louisville visit was a way to get comfortable with players and coaches. Enjoyed their version of midnight madness and was impressed with Donovan Mitchell being there. Talks to coaches about same as IU and talks to new recruit Jay Scrubb. Played in an open gym with current and future players. Talked about how Michigan visit was cold and rainy but liked the Big House. Just beginning to build a relationship with new staff but grew up liking them so doesn’t need to be won over by the programs history. Would like a Duke offer but that is the only blue blood he wants to begin recruiting him. Don’t remember him mentioning a commitment timetable.
 

Hopefully covered it all and can give everyone a good idea of where he is at.

[mjtavier]

1 hour ago, HinnyHoosier said:

 

 

Anyone happen to catch this?

 

Edit: I don’t have IG otherwise I’d try to look it up

 

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Yeah didn’t say too much. He talked briefly on his 3 official visits so far. Said IU / Louisville / Michigan were the three schools in contact with him the most and that Leal and Galloway talk to him about coming to IU. He was asked if there was one school that he hopes he gets an offer from and he said Duke. No shock there. 

[mjtavier]

1 minute ago, FCHoosier said:

IG Live recap:

Three schools recruiting him hardest are the three schools he has taken an official to (IU, UL, Michigan). Indiana visit was taken to build relationship with coaches and not necessarily to win him over with campus/facilities as he has been there many times over the years. Talks to coaches about twice a week. Leal and Galloway are on him often about teaming up. Mentioned he is around a lot of people who would like to see him at IU but doesn’t feel the pressure. The Louisville visit was a way to get comfortable with players and coaches. Enjoyed their version of midnight madness and was impressed with Donovan Mitchell being there. Talks to coaches about same as IU and talks to new recruit Jay Scrubb. Played in an open gym with current and future players. Talked about how Michigan visit was cold and rainy but liked the Big House. Just beginning to build a relationship with new staff but grew up liking them so doesn’t need to be won over by the programs history. Would like a Duke offer but that is the only blue blood he wants to begin recruiting him. Don’t remember him mentioning a commitment timetable.
 

Hopefully covered it all and can give everyone a good idea of where he is at.

Yup this is spot on. 

[Brass Cannon]

7 minutes ago, FCHoosier said:

IG Live recap:

Three schools recruiting him hardest are the three schools he has taken an official to (IU, UL, Michigan). Indiana visit was taken to build relationship with coaches and not necessarily to win him over with campus/facilities as he has been there many times over the years. Talks to coaches about twice a week. Leal and Galloway are on him often about teaming up. Mentioned he is around a lot of people who would like to see him at IU but doesn’t feel the pressure. The Louisville visit was a way to get comfortable with players and coaches. Enjoyed their version of midnight madness and was impressed with Donovan Mitchell being there. Talks to coaches about same as IU and talks to new recruit Jay Scrubb. Played in an open gym with current and future players. Talked about how Michigan visit was cold and rainy but liked the Big House. Just beginning to build a relationship with new staff but grew up liking them so doesn’t need to be won over by the programs history. Would like a Duke offer but that is the only blue blood he wants to begin recruiting him. Don’t remember him mentioning a commitment timetable.
 

Hopefully covered it all and can give everyone a good idea of where he is at.

Duke the only blue blood recruiting him. Yikes that hurts but it’s the truth sadly. 

[JaybobHoosier]

Yeah didn’t say too much. He talked briefly on his 3 official visits so far. Said IU / Louisville / Michigan were the three schools in contact with him the most and that Leal and Galloway talk to him about coming to IU. He was asked if there was one school that he hopes he gets an offer from and he said Duke. No shock there. 

Hope Duke will stay away then!!


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[cthomas]

The reality is that we will have to start performing on the court like a perennial top ten team before this and future generations of kids start viewing us that way. Currently, our realistic recruiting shopping list rarely includes kids who receive offers from the Dukes, Kentuckys, UNCs, and etc. More often than not, unless the check is really big, kids who can go anywhere they want go where they can realistically have a shot at a national title. Honestly, I can't blame them.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

The reality is that we will have to start performing on the court like a perennial top ten team before this and future generations of kids start viewing us that way. Currently, our realistic recruiting shopping list rarely includes kids who receive offers from the Dukes, Kentuckys, UNCs, and etc. More often than not, unless the check is really big, kids who can go anywhere they want go where they can realistically have a shot at a national title. Honestly, I can't blame them.

Sad and true.


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[Old Friend]

2 hours ago, cthomas said:

The reality is that we will have to start performing on the court like a perennial top ten team before this and future generations of kids start viewing us that way. Currently, our realistic recruiting shopping list rarely includes kids who receive offers from the Dukes, Kentuckys, UNCs, and etc. More often than not, unless the check is really big, kids who can go anywhere they want go where they can realistically have a shot at a national title. Honestly, I can't blame them.

I'll yin to your yang a little.   In a prior thread, most people who replied agreed that a better strategy at Indiana was "get old and stay old."  The talent differential of a 4* kid who is a senior in college vs. a 5* kid who's a freshman in college is negligible at worst, and favors the older, more experienced player at best.

I have no interest and I don't think Archie has an interest in recruiting kids who are NBA bound before they ever hit college campuses.  The pressure of that - a need to be successful with multiple top kids every year - is not bearable for any coach nor program who's not doing that successfully already.   Recruiting those players wouldn't be successful at Eastern Wyoming any more than it would be at Indiana.

My bigger point is this.  Archie Miller has landed 2 consecutive Indiana Mr. Basketball winners (Langford and Jackson-Davis), and has likely landed a 3rd as I think Leal is the one to beat this season if not Galloway).   He landed Ohio's Mr. Basketball a year ago.  His list of recruits is full of 4* players...all of whom look to be at least contenders at Indiana - meaning we might land them.   

Indiana plays in a different world than Duke.  Than Kentucky.  I'm not sure I agree with North Carolina because they tend to have more experienced players; and I think Indiana will soon be on that level.   I don't think Archie wants to go down a path of having to land several top-tier recruits year in and year out.  That's one formula, but I don't think that's Indiana's formula.  Virginia, Michigan State, Michigan, Wisconsin, and others have shown the OTHER formula - recruit good players who stay, get old and stay old - works just as well if not better in some cases.  Texas Tech had a shot last season and they didn't have a single top 100 recruit.  What they DID have?  Really smart basketball players; experience; length; depth; shooters; and good defenders.  31-7.   But...statistically?   They were very average.  They weren't the best at anything except shooting % on both sides of the ball, which is a big one I realize.  They didn't dominate anything in their own conference, let alone nationally.  But....they were an absolute b!tch to play against because the pieces fit and they were able to play within Chris Beard's system and thrive in it.   I think Indiana is building something similar, and I think there's a reason many "top names" don't include Indiana on their list.  I'm not sure I really care very much.

My point in that is building a program around older players makes the pieces fit on a more regular basis than trying to find immediate contributors year in and year out.   It took Archie maybe an extra year to get this right; and I think early on he was trying to recruit a different way than he is now.  I suspect you will all be very happy with Indiana's program if you'll just let it play out.   And thank me later.   =)

So.....I guess I think it doesn't matter how some top tier recruits view Indiana.  5 years ago, Indiana sent 2 of the top 4 picks to the NBA draft.  Victor Oladipo by himself has made Indiana University cool again in the eyes of local college recruits, and I know that because I hear it relatively often.  IU is on their radar; and Archie is landing those players.  He is also having relative success outside the state, and is obviously attractive to very good players.  

[cthomas]

I wasn't advocating for the the one and done players at all. I really like the direction CAM is going and how the program is being built. If Lander wants an offer from Duke, then I'm not sure he fits what Indiana is trying to do. I was trying to say that those type of players don't view IU as being on the same level as the perennial top ten programs. And, won't until our on court performance is similar. Personally, I like watching kids develop over three or four years and getting to know them a little bit. I like the continuity that comes from kids playing together over time. As much as I liked Langford, he didn't help at all in terms of building the program in my opinion. I get that CAM had to recruit Romeo, but the timing was all wrong for a player like him. This is the long way around of saying I believe that getting old and staying old is best approach for IU.