Summer of 2018

[Brass Cannon]

Archie also described Justin Smith as “much more explosive and in much better shape.”

[poppedcolla]

Jeff Goodman ranking Indiana at 20 for the preseason.

https://watchstadium.com/news/jeff-goodmans-2018-19-college-basketball-preseason-top-25-rankings-09-10-2018/

Last season: 16-15, 9-9 in Big Ten

Archie Miller got his guy when he kept Romeo Langford in-state. The Hoosiers became nationally relevant that day as well. Langford is a prolific scorer and will team with Juwan Morgan to give the Hoosiers a couple of all-league guys. De’Ron Davis will help up front, but the key for IU will ultimately be point guard play. Ultimately, I’m betting on the duo of Miller and Langford.

 

[Brass Cannon]

Wow Archie said last year at times we had no PG 

[ElectricBoogaloo]

51 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Wow Archie said last year at times we had no PG 

Where is this being said? Radio show?

[Brass Cannon]

4 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

Where is this being said? Radio show?

Yeah first story on inside the hall has a link

[NRT137]

On 8/30/2018 at 11:19 AM, Stuhoo said:

 

I think that Edwards is really, really good, but he was their leading scorer last year; not sure how much he will increase his total in that category.

He can become a much better facilitator, but the catch with that is that last year he was sharing the ball with Mathias, VEdwards, and PJ Thompson, all knockdown 3pt shooters, and Haas at the rim. His options are so much less skilled this year. 

If some true unknows don't develop into legitimate scoring threats, Carsen Edwards could end up with a season like Talor Battle, DJ Newbill, or Tim Frazier when they were the only gunslingers on mediocre Penn State teams.

Purdue will defend with Painter as coach (I think), but if either Edwards or Haarms misses significant time they are really screwed vis a vis depth.

Let's put it this way - if Romeo or Juwan missed time we would likely insert a guy likeJerome Hunter, Al Durham, or Fitzner into the starting lineup. If Edwards or Haarms isn't in the game, Purdue is very low on options. They only have three guards on their roster that can even contemplate playing with the ball in their hands and only one non walk-on big who has ever seen the court in a D1 game.

 

Is anyone else excited over Evan Fitzner? I wouldn't be surprised if he started. What if we had Juwan, McRoberts and Fitzner on the court with Devonte and Langford? That'd be a huge starting lineup, like Kentucky big. According to ESPN, Fitzner has played 1898 minutes of NCAA basketball, while Davis has only played 753. That's 2.52 times more time. Plus Fitzner has a 3 point shot at +40% beyond the arc the past 3 seasons at Saint Mary's, and the other 4 that I mentioned above also have +25% 3 pointers (except for Langford). IDK, from the stats and experience standpoint I'd expect Fitzner to play more than Davis.

[Hardwood83]

41 minutes ago, NRT137 said:

Is anyone else excited over Evan Fitzner? I wouldn't be surprised if he started. What if we had Juwan, McRoberts and Fitzner on the court with Devonte and Langford? That'd be a huge starting lineup, like Kentucky big. According to ESPN, Fitzner has played 1898 minutes of NCAA basketball, while Davis has only played 753. That's 2.52 times more time. Plus Fitzner has a 3 point shot at +40% beyond the arc the past 3 seasons at Saint Mary's, and the other 4 that I mentioned above also have +25% 3 pointers (except for Langford). IDK, from the stats and experience standpoint I'd expect Fitzner to play more than Davis.

I actually expect a starting line-up with: Fitzner, Morgan, Smith, Romeo and Green. How long he plays will likely depend more on his D then his offense, IMO. 

[NRT137]

48 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

I actually expect a starting line-up with: Fitzner, Morgan, Smith, Romeo and Green. How long he plays will likely depend more on his D then his offense, IMO. 

No, because McRoberts played 150 more minutes than Smith last season, and McRoberts has 3 more years of experience. Plus you'd probably want 3 guards rather than 2 F's and a center since Miller passes it around the arc a lot before scoring and is into transition offense (better with guards). Devonte, Langford, McRoberts, Morgan, and Fitzner is 3 seniors, 1 junior and a freshman. That's an old roster, probably would be the oldest in the big ten. Just depends on what defense you're going for I guess.


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[mdn82]

No, because McRoberts played 150 more minutes than Smith last season, and McRoberts has 3 more years of experience. Plus you'd probably want 3 guards rather than 2 F's and a center since Miller passes it around the arc a lot before scoring and is into transition offense (better with guards). Devonte, Langford, McRoberts, Morgan, and Fitzner is 3 seniors, 1 junior and a freshman. That's an old roster, probably would be the oldest in the big ten. Just depends on what defense you're going for I guess.


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I love McBob. More than most here actually. But I would be shocked if he is starting over Smith. McBob brings steadiness. He is a perfect off the bench player. His experience off of the bench would be a fantastic tool to have. Smith is our third best player. He has had a great summer. Finished the year strong. He just gives us more than what McBob can. IMO


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[NRT137]

I love McBob. More than most here actually. But I would be shocked if he is starting over Smith. McBob brings steadiness. He is a perfect off the bench player. His experience off of the bench would be a fantastic tool to have. Smith is our third best player. He has had a great summer. Finished the year strong. He just gives us more than what McBob can. IMO


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McBob did have 17 starts last year


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[mdn82]

McBob did have 17 starts last year


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I know this but the talent around him has got a lot better. That’s a good thing.


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[HoosierAloha]

I love McBob. More than most here actually. But I would be shocked if he is starting over Smith. McBob brings steadiness. He is a perfect off the bench player. His experience off of the bench would be a fantastic tool to have. Smith is our third best player. He has had a great summer. Finished the year strong. He just gives us more than what McBob can. IMO


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Completely agree with this. If Fitzner can start I'd go with Fitzner, Morgan, Smith, Romeo, and Green. McBob definitely has a role on this team but it's as one of the first off the bench to bring energy and defense. Hopefully, he'll have improve his shot and has the confidence in taking them when open.


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[Brass Cannon]

Agreed Fitz should start  Mcroberts should definitely get time off the bench. I’d say

Green, Langford, Smith or Hunter, Morgan, Fitzner. 

 looking at Derons advanced statistics he wasn’t as ineffective on defense as I remembered   Could see him being a force off the bench  Him, Al, Smith or Hunter and Mcroberts could be a stellar core off the bench.  

 

[cthomas]

It's great to have options. I think RP is going to have a more significant role this year than many are anticipating. He is exactly what we didn't have a year ago.

[ebridges24]

3 minutes ago, cthomas said:

It's great to have options. I think RP is going to have a more significant role this year than many are anticipating. He is exactly what we didn't have a year ago.

hopefully Devonte is exactly what we didn't have a year ago

[NRT137]

It's great to have options. I think RP is going to have a more significant role this year than many are anticipating. He is exactly what we didn't have a year ago.

ESPN said Robert was a “solid” point guard

 

 

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[LIHoosier]

9 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

Wow Archie said last year at times we had no PG 

At least we know some of us can believe what we see.

[Hoosier DaDa]

McBob did have 17 starts last year


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But that was last year and how can you start someone over Smith since he has 100 inch vertical.

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[schoosier]

1 hour ago, LIHoosier said:

At least we know some of us can believe what we see.

Green has to really step it up this year. Much better talent behind him now, and RP is a true pass first PG. 

[Napleshoosier]

If Smith can be that Troy Williams slasher with an outside shot Morgan is going to have plenty of room to work down low.


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I think Smith will be a lot better than Troy. He was out of control most the time. Jmo


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