Archie Miller's staff at Indiana will be Bruiser Flint, Tom Ostrom (Dayton) and Ed Schilling (UCLA),

[MikeRoberts]

Isn't training for basketball and football very different? This guy is a football guy... very confused why so many are stoked about this


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[Dalton26]

16 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Isn't training for basketball and football very different? This guy is a football guy... very confused why so many are stoked about this


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He has worked with players in the NBA, MLB, MLS, and the NFL. His most notable clients are just from the NFL. His program isnt sport specific he works to make you the best possible athlete. Here are some quotes from AJ Green and Luke Kuechly.

 

AJ Green
6x NFL Pro Bowler | Top 10 Draft Pick
“I’ve known Clif Marshall since my rookie year in the NFL. I’ve used him as my personal trainer because he believes in training the Total Athlete. His performance program focuses on improving fast twitch muscle which is exactly what I need to continue to play at a Pro Bowl level each year with the Bengals. I have appreciated his wisdom as it has made me more of a complete athlete.”

Luke Kuechly
NFL Defensive MVP | Top 10 Draft Pick
“I’ve spent each of my NFL Off Season training with Clif Marshall. I like his holistic approach that allows me to train speed, power and stamina all in the same session. His workouts are always specific to my position.”

 

From everything I've read on him each workout he does with an individual athlete, he creates it specific to what that athlete needs.

[AKHoosier]

16 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Isn't training for basketball and football very different? This guy is a football guy... very confused why so many are stoked about this


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Marshall certainly has his share of credentials and an ample portfolio of clients, so he definitely looks like he knows what he's doing.  However, I tend to think that the S&C coach's impact is pretty overrated.  I bet teams like UNC, Duke, etc. don't even know who their strength and conditioning coordinator is.  Football is a different story because it's more physical and there are more injuries.

Just be in shape, lift weights, and eat well.  

[Dalton26]

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Marshall also worked as a consultant to some of the top NCAA athletic programs in the country including the Men's Basketball Programs at Xavier University and University of Dayton.

 

[MikeRoberts]

He has worked with players in the NBA, MLB, MLS, and the NFL. His most notable clients are just from the NFL. His program isnt sport specific he works to make you the best possible athlete. Here are some quotes from AJ Green and Luke Kuechly.
 

AJ Green
6x NFL Pro Bowler | Top 10 Draft Pick
“I’ve known Clif Marshall since my rookie year in the NFL. I’ve used him as my personal trainer because he believes in training the Total Athlete. His performance program focuses on improving fast twitch muscle which is exactly what I need to continue to play at a Pro Bowl level each year with the Bengals. I have appreciated his wisdom as it has made me more of a complete athlete.”

Luke Kuechly
NFL Defensive MVP | Top 10 Draft Pick
“I’ve spent each of my NFL Off Season training with Clif Marshall. I like his holistic approach that allows me to train speed, power and stamina all in the same session. His workouts are always specific to my position.”

 

From everything I've read on him each workout he does with an individual athlete, he creates it specific to what that athlete needs.

Seems he has specialized on football. Would prefer to see quotes from russel Westbrook and Lebron james than football guys. My question about training differences was a rhetorical question because they are very different, just like playing and coaching different sports.

Who is amongst that list of NBA guys he has been training lately?


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[Dalton26]

9 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Seems he has specialized on football. Would prefer to see quotes from russel Westbrook and Lebron james than football guys. My question about training differences was a rhetorical question because they are very different, just like playing and coaching different sports.

Who is amongst that list of NBA guys he has been training lately?


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He also worked with the Xavier and Dayton basketball teams, and helped UK's strength and conditioning coach prepare workouts for the NBA combine. it seems like he specialized in athletic training as a whole not just football

[BtownStrength]

He also worked with the Xavier and Dayton basketball teams, and helped UK's strength and conditioning coach prepare workouts for the NBA combine. it seems like he specialized in athletic training as a whole not just football

This. No coach would turn down working with NFL players in order to specialize. Most good S&C coaches are equipped with the knowledge to train athletes across several sports. One could seek out a certain specialty (with an open mind) or just fall into one due to a great job opportunity, but his resume looks balanced. Really excited about this hire.

[MikeRoberts]

Think what you will but his entire bio on their website is all about football. He might have dabbled in basketball from time to time but he is a football guy through and through.

http://www.ignitionapg.com/index.php/about-ignition/our-staff-2/clif-marshall/

 

 

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[Brass Cannon]

55 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Think what you will but his entire bio on their website is all about football. He might have dabbled in basketball from time to time but he is a football guy through and through.

http://www.ignitionapg.com/index.php/about-ignition/our-staff-2/clif-marshall/

 

 

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You act like Football players and basketball players have different muscle groups and such. Training is about understanding how the human body works and responds to training. 

[MikeRoberts]

You act like Football players and basketball players have different muscle groups and such. Training is about understanding how the human body works and responds to training. 

I don't act like that. I act like there is a difference between training to play basketball and training to play football. The way one trains for each is very different.


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[Brass Cannon]

Just now, MikeRoberts said:

I don't act like that. I act like there is a difference between training to play basketball and training to play football. The way one trains for each is very different.


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Yeah but trainers understand how the human body works and as long as they know the needs of the athlete they can adjust quite easily. 

Not sure what's hard to understand about that

[kottke]

6 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Yeah but trainers understand how the human body works and as long as they know the needs of the athlete they can adjust quite easily. 

Not sure what's hard to understand about that

100% agree. 

[Walking Boot of Doom]

Yeah but trainers understand how the human body works and as long as they know the needs of the athlete they can adjust quite easily. 
Not sure what's hard to understand about that

I don't think Mike is saying that this guy doesn't know how to train basketball players. He doesn't get why everyone is so excited about a guy who has great football recommendations, but no evident recommendations from basketball players.

This guy is probably great at his job, but we will have to see. Like Mike said, it'd be nice to see reviews from prominent basketball players instead of AJ Green.


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[Hoosierfan2017]

Speed, quickness, agility, strength. You need that for both sports. Sure it's not exactly the same, but still. We're not asking Marshall to coach them basketball, he's here to make them bigger, faster and stronger. The guy is obviously good enough and smart enough to train top NFL players, so I'm not worried about him being able to tailor his training approach to suit basketball players. He has some prior experience with Xavier and Dayton too so that's nice. I'm excited to see what he can do with De'ron this summer. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

Marshall has his Twitter all updated! Also I'm not sure if anyone has already posted it but here's his comments on taking the job.

[Jeff_Boy_Ardee]

I don't act like that. I act like there is a difference between training to play basketball and training to play football. The way one trains for each is very different.


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I feel like it is safe to say he will train basketball players as basketball players not as football players. He is not a football trainer trying to train basketball, he's an athletic trainer that trains athletes for their specific needs and sports. It will be okay.

[waitingon6]

As with everything Archie has done thus far, I trust this hire is a home run!
Also, knowing Eddie for over 30 years, he is going to be huge game changer in a lot of areas.

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[SlamaJamaSisley]

#archieknows


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[Dalton26]

Think what you will but his entire bio on their website is all about football. He might have dabbled in basketball from time to time but he is a football guy through and through.
http://www.ignitionapg.com/index.php/about-ignition/our-staff-2/clif-marshall/
 
 
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Think what you will but he was also a consultant with two college programs and helped the S&C coach set up programs at another. It seems like you're trying to find any excuse to complain about this.


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[hoosierbannerd]

Looks like the sandpit might still be used..

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