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jdailey1981

TOM CREAN FIRED

By jdailey1981, in Indiana Men's Basketball

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hoosierpap    14,300

hoosierpap
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Just now, KYHoosier said:

 

Wow, I never read the forum back then when the accident happened, but I'm curious to know who might have been driving the car that night if it wasn't Holt. 

Fwiw, that was another poster on here. Idk if he wants me to give his name and open the PM flood gates but he's posted today (i believe) and does fairly regularly.

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WayneFleekHoosier    47,428

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I trust the janitor to a degree, but he didn't say a word. Mile...eh. I would LOVE to hear Billy D is in but I'm exercising some caution here for sure


I agree 100%. Mile steered people wrong with the whole Alabama thing, but Janitor also thought that had legs. Both seemed to get that wrong.

I've seen Janitor right 99% of the time but as you said, he didn't really say anything. The plot thickens when IU is on a historic losing streak.

As for Mile, I think he gets scoop but he is really straddling the whole topic and being very noncommittal.


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IU Hoosier41    14,465

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Really? I thought I'd heard it was a girl(friend) who was trashed and underage.


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Why would Holt cover for her? Makes more sense Holt would cover for a player on the team who was on zero tolerance... tis the old rumor anyway


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WayneFleekHoosier    47,428

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Why would Holt cover for her? Makes more sense Holt would cover for a player on the team who was on zero tolerance... tis the old rumor anyway


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IDK. If she was a girlfriend there is reason to protect. Especially if he was significantly more sober.

Although the Hanner thought lines right up.


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Yogi's Picnic Basket    5,004

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Tom Crean's senior night? People are gonna dissect every word of his speech this year even more so than in the past


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I was thinking the same. Crean may give his unformal goodbye speech. Cant wait honestly.

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Brass Cannon    24,083

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1 minute ago, IU Hoosier41 said:

 


Don't think anything was unethical on Crean's part. Hanner just never developed into his potential. I'd put that more on hanner than on Crean honestly


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I would assume that if the janitor knew the truth so did Crean and he let Holt take the fall

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MikeRoberts    6,871

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Exactly.  I want us to move on from Crean too, but some of this is too much.

I hope it ends as amicably as possible, and no IU fan forgets how hard he worked to get us out of a complete sh!tstorm.


I agree with this in general but many people overstate what he did as if he took over a charity case. He took over a head coaching job at a blue blood program making $3mm +. He also could have made the rebuild less of a rebuild. He inherited some really soft sanctions and a team with bad grades. He chose to completely overhaul he team and start with a team of walk-one. There were salvageable pieces on that team and he either forced them out or they left because they didn't want to play for him. There was no reason we had to be so bad for 3 years, that was on him.

I too want this to end and end amicably and I wish him and his family well but we as fans and the school don't owe him anything beyond an additional $4mm and even that is insane. We should treat him and his family with dignity on the way out but the shitstorm he was in and stayed in was partially his own doing and other coaches in similar positions were able to recover quicker.

Not a rant towards you, just have heard over and over for years how grateful we should be for the rebuild work... I just don't see it that way


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Yogi's Picnic Basket    5,004

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Didn't come out til much much later. Police reports all indicated Holt.


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Wow just wow. We got some huge news by Janitors thread just not by him. This really sucks because I liked Holt. Went to the OSU game and him and Stan signed autographs after the game. Asked Stan for a picture he said no he had to sign autographs. Two hot girls went soon after and he gladly got up. Didnt blame him but Holt literally got up for everyone that asked. They had a two item limit and I brought 4 things and couldnt decide. He could tell I was frustrated and followed me out and signed the other two items and even sat and talked to me about my son for a good 2-3 minutes. He was such an awesome kid. We lost a good one and to know it wasnt even his fault makes me wonder what if. For both parties.

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