TOM CREAN FIRED

[HoosierAloha]

Regardless of how this goes, Crean stating or going. (He is gone) There will be posters stating they're not happy because x,y,z. Glass could have fired Crean the minute after the final regular season game and people would complain.

[Dalton26]

You can't tell me that Dakich doesn't know anything. But he also isn't going to share either because he continues to say he thinks Crean should be the coach at IU.

Dakich is smart. I don't for a second believe he thinks Crean should be the coach, but if he says Crean should be fired that won't help his ratings because people won't want to call in to call him an idiot. Personally I'm a huge fan of Dakich.

 

Does JMV have sources for IU stuff? I know he does for the Colts but IU I'm not sure. I also believe Dakich knows what is going not that he'll say anything on the topic because he likes supporting Crean on the radio because it keeps people calling arguing which keeps his ratings up. 

What did JMV say?

 

[recker222000]

As I keep saying (if Glass was indeed planning to keep Crean which no one still knows through all this) if the push back is from donors with their wallets that's huge and could make a difference. If it's just average Joe fans bombarding him with emails or media pressure that does very little.

My fear is it has not gotten bad enough yet. We need another dumpster fire year to really get 100% apathy which is really sad.

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[ap2345]

2 minutes ago, Dalton26 said:

Dakich is smart. I don't for a second believe he think Crean should be the coach, but if he says Crean should be fired that won't help his ratings because people won't want to call in to call him an idiot. Personally I'm a huge fan of Dakich.

What did JMV say?

I 100% agree on Dakich and JMV I guess said he thinks Crean will be back. I'm not sure on the JMV front because I didn't personally hear it.

[Aaron]

If Glass decides to keep Crean he will sink with him if things go badly next year (very likely) just as Greenspan sank with Sampson (which is ironic since from what I've heard Greenspan did not want Sampson but had it pushed on him by Herbert). 

[IUHAHN81]

Realistically I don't think any of us truly expect a banner every yr.  I've said this a million times to people.  Look at all the 5 star talent that the current blue bloods get.  Kansas, Kentucky, NC, Duke etc.  And look how many national championships they have.  Indiana is right there.  Even the current blue bloods don't win it every yr.  But we DAMN sure expect to be in the same conversation as those schools.  No matter how bad things get, look at this picture.  IU means something!  Always will!  This is OUR school, OUR state!  Fred, this is on u pal!

[HoosierAloha]

If Glass decides to keep Crean he will sink with him if things go badly next year (very likely) just as Greenspan sank with Sampson (which is ironic since from what I've heard Greenspan did not want Sampson but had it pushed on him by Herbert). 

Glass' job depends on how he handles this situation. If he screws it up he'll be gone within a few years. Right now, he's able to say Crean wasn't his hire. Before you start with the extension crap the way he did it saved money, believe it or not. The pressure is on him to remove that coach and get a successful one. If Fred doesn't make a change soon he'll be gone. If he makes a bad hire when the move takes place, he's gone. Fred might be a lot of things in your mind but ignorant he is not.

[recker222000]

Glass' job depends on how he handles this situation. If he screws it up he'll be gone within a few years. Right now, he's able to say Crean wasn't his hire. Before you start with the extension crap the way he did it saved money, believe it or not. The pressure is on him to remove that coach and get a successful one. If Fred doesn't make a change soon he'll be gone. If he makes a bad hire when the move takes place, he's gone. Fred might be a lot of things in your mind but ignorant he is not.

Or maybe his job doesnt depend on it. Maybe the admins are just fine with crean. Because if it did i think even glass would not be dumb enough to go down with crean.

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[HoosierTrav]

What did JMV say?  

 

Dakich may be an intelligent man but pride and arrogance can make the smartest seem foolish. Dakich doesn't have a humble bone in his body. The guy was an AWFUL coach, yet speaks in absolutes (as if he's the rain man of basketball) and talks down to everyone. He has serious psychological issues. Have you seen how he reacts to a dissenting opinion? Borderline elementary school behavior from a grown man. Dakich, outside of his stellar play against Jordan, is a total embarrassment to IU imho.

 

.........oh.....fire tom crean.

[recker222000]

I still dont understand why we owe a guy we paid 30 million dollars a soft landing. Yes he turned it around but that was six years ago. He has not met expectations and its not our job to find him new employment. This whole fiasco is like the twilight zone.

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[Redandyz]

38 minutes ago, recker222000 said:

My fear is it has not gotten bad enough yet. We need another dumpster fire year to really get 100% apathy which is really sad.

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I had the same thought the other day. Maybe as fans on the lunatic fringe we forget that we have a lot of boosters who send their checks "For the Glory" without much thought, and always will. I had a conversation with a booster the other day that said the voices of concern often have to become deafening before they are even heard, because the admin sees them  as petulant problem children. They did say that the concern is as loud as it has been in years, since the Davis years, but they were not sure what the outcome may be.  Maybe it will take a year like Mike Davis' last before something is done. Hopefully not, but that does seems more and more possible.

[rebelhoosier848891]

We are one day closer to the answer Hoosier Nation---status quo or change? This old Hoosier says it is time for a change!


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[ap2345]

When it comes to the soft landing crap all I have to is if Bobby Knight can be fired anybody can be fired.

[ClapFaster]

59 minutes ago, Schreckbagger said:

Need to get Trump involved in these negotiations.
Tom..... You're Fired
Billy....Wanna job

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Drain the swamp!

[hoosha61]

I think John Groce could do great things here..

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AND he's a Hoosier!

[HoosierSadaseci]

8 hours ago, Maynard said:

1. If the narrative of the national media, that Crean will ultimately decide whether or not he leaves, is true, then things have gotten WAY out of control for Glass.  He cannot allow the coach of any program to exert that sort of power.  Basically, Crean is holding Indiana hostage if this is true. 

2. The Road Game: It would not be good for Crean or the University to have a half-filled Assembly Hall booing Crean throughout an NIT game that they might very well win.  If Crean is already gone this makes a lot of sense.  If he is still going to be around, the boo birds are going to be ready next season.  Rumor has it that a Fire Tom Crean group is growing among the students, as rallies are being planned.  Some students have been reports receiving emails and signing up.

3. The Coaching Search: Unless Glass has put out feelers and KNOWS that he has a legitimate shot at a Bennett, Donovan, etc.  He is completely foolish to wait on Tom Crean.  "We'd love to hire you coach Donovan/Bennett, but we have to get permission from our current coach first."

4. Insiders:  Its hard to know what to make of the insiders.  Many people have multiple motives for putting out information.  I love the forums, but those who operate them aren't hurt at all by the swirling, constantly changing rumors, this all keeps us glued to the screen clicking refresh.  Others love the attention they get when they release vague snippets.  I am not criticizing anyone specifically, it is just difficult to distinguish between all of these people with unknown motivations.

Ultimately time will tell.  I am very optimistic that he is gone.  I hope that his best days are in front of him.

Good stuff, Maynard. 

[yogisballin]

Assuming a loss. Thursday or Friday release makes sense. (Good or bad)

Bury it in the excitement of the games.

I think Glass really, really wants to give him another year. I think he is starting to realize he might not be able to without a major fallout. Not sure what to expect.



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This is what I'm expecting IF Glass doesn't get options 1-4. He will somehow feel that it will be in the programs best interest to "hang in there 1 more year."

Oh dear word, idk what I'd do then. Become a Butler fan after 34 years?


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[Alford Bailey]

8 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Assuming a loss. Thursday or Friday release makes sense. (Good or bad)

Bury it in the excitement of the games.

I think Glass really, really wants to give him another year. I think he is starting to realize he might not be able to without a major fallout. Not sure what to expect.



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The late Friday afternoon press release. Glass classic.

[Sknits nad]

Crazy how so many people are calling for Glass's head and saying he is an idiot, when no announcement has been made.  He isn't leaving the decision up to Crean, he has already reached out to other coaches.  He isn't leaving the decision up to Crean, he would be torpedoing his own job.  He isn't leaving the decision up to Crean because next year would be toxic and more importantly his boss won't let donors close their check books for an entire year.  If Crean had an option of deciding to come back and make top 10 money or go to a football school and make maybe half that he would have already decided to stay.  Glass hasn't publicly backed him for a very obvious reason.  Settle down, Crean is gone.

[RobPoff]

The late Friday afternoon press release. Glass classic.

Most big news is released on Friday after 5 in hopes people forget about it by Monday or in hopes something else happens over the weekend...and they're able to prepare for all of the interviews and press conference questions for Monday. That's not Glass specific.


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