College Bball Thread

[wirenuts]

First #1 seed to fall? I'm thinking Xavier, losing to missouri

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[Hoosier Guy]

11 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

In a giant upset, the 1st team Dookie V complains about not making the tourney is......OKLAHOMA ST!

Damn, I had the Notre Dame/Uof6/USC trifecta.

It baffles me how Notre Dame would’ve been in if not for Davidson stealing the bid. And Oklahoma State not being in is ridiculous. If Oklahoma is in, Oklahoma State should be too

[LIHoosier]

Oh boy, someone's complaining about their flight to Boise

[Hoosier82]

It’s interesting watching the ESPN bracketology show and seeing Davis, Bilas, and Greenberg talk about Sean Miller and Arizona as if they had not totally threw him under the bus a few weeks ago on Gameday.


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[Uspshoosier]

Fort Wayne down 3 with 4 sec left. Central Michigan looks like they will be winning and moving on in CIT


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[Uspshoosier]

Abilene Christian/ Drake about to tip-off on cbssports network. This will be my first time watching a Abilene Christian game. Mid major Monday


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[LamarCheeks]

This Atlanta columnist says between Crean and Matta for the Georgia job, he'd take ... Matta. Geez, tough call on that one. 
However, I was puzzled a little by these comments: 

"It took Crean forever to get the Hoosiers hurryin’ again ... "

"My worry with Crean: If you can’t win enough to suit Indiana, one of the few places where basketball is a bigger deal than football, what assurance is there that he’d win enough at a place that reached its one and only Final Four at the expense of Michael Jordan?" 

As to the first comment. I actually thought for all Crean's faults, he did a pretty remarkable job in getting the program up and running again, considering what he had to work with. The problem was after that -- he couldn't sustain the little success he did have, recruit in-state and coach in big games. 

As for the second comment -- I would think that would be the whole point. At Indiana, the expectations are very high -- as they should be. We want to go to the NCAAs every year and compete for national titles. If Crean were to go to Georgia and have the kind of record he did at Indiana, I would think they'd be pretty pleased. ... Heck, they fired Mark Richt because he didn't win enough to suit the football fan base. If Richt wanted to coach football at IU, I certainly wouldn't say no. 

https://www.myajc.com/blog/mark-bradley/georgia-post-fox-choices-thad-matta-tom-crean/q5VipzTSUtKgHQZHss4rDJ/

[Uspshoosier]

Can confirm @GoodmanESPN report that Mark Gottfried - yes, THAT Mark Gottfried - is expected to be named the next head coach Cal-State Northridge.
Aloha one of your favorite coaches back coaching


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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Mid majors are upset and correctly in my opinion

http://www.sportingnews.com/amp/ncaa-basketball/news/mid-major-coaches-upset-ncaa-tournament-quadrant-setup-cuts-chances/1n0mlydm7jiuw1fog443mvyrjo?__twitter_impression=true

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[MoyeNeeded]

Alot of talk on the Louisville sports talk radio that Painter and Alford are on the list of coaches they will be contacting about the HC job. Also talk of Chris Mack since his wife is from there. Somehow they believe that they are going to get a big name to come in and rebuild the program even with 4yrs probation and not knowing what the NCAA is going to do about FBI deal. Can't see anyone with a name wanting to come in with more questions to be answered. Personally want to see them have a hard time so I can rag them like their fanbase did ours during our search. I would like them to hire local coach Scotty Davenport from Bellarmine.

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[TheWatShot]

2 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

This Atlanta columnist says between Crean and Matta for the Georgia job, he'd take ... Matta. Geez, tough call on that one. 
However, I was puzzled a little by these comments: 

"It took Crean forever to get the Hoosiers hurryin’ again ... "

 

I agree with them here. It took Crean way too long to get going. There was no excuse to be a last-place team in his third season. Crean isn't capable of adapting to what he's given. It has to be his players, his system, his way.

[LIHoosier]

If you have a chance, please shed a tear for the exclusion of TV Teddy from the NCAA tournament.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22737287/ted-valentine-not-officiate-ncaa-tournament

[HoosierHoops1]

1 hour ago, TheWatShot said:

I agree with them here. It took Crean way too long to get going. There was no excuse to be a last-place team in his third season. Crean isn't capable of adapting to what he's given. It has to be his players, his system, his way.

I disagree. Arguably, the best 2 players from his 1st year transferred after it, the best player from his 2nd year missed it, and year 3, with injury. maybe not last place, but no good reason to be top 10.

Junior Nick, Junior Malik and Sophomore Mo in year 3 we would have been a lot better.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I disagree. Arguably, the best 2 players from his 1st year transferred after it, the best player from his 2nd year missed it, and year 3, with injury. maybe not last place, but no good reason to be top 10.
Junior Nick, Junior Malik and Sophomore Mo in year 3 we would have been a lot better.

Recruit better like UNC/Kansas/Kentucky/UCLA after coaching changes.

But I guess if you are trying to do it relatively clean........there ya go.


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[HoosierHoops1]

4 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Recruit better like UNC/Kansas/Kentucky/UCLA after coaching changes.

But I guess if you are trying to do it relatively clean........there ya go.


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You know good and well Indiana didn't "have a coaching change" it was an unprecedented situation.

UNC sucked with Matt Dougherty, Can't count Kansas, Can't count UCLA. Can't ever count Kentucky, when you're talking about other teams.

 

[HoosierHoops1]

We'll find out soon, just how NOT EASY it is to replace a top coach.

UCONN just demonstrated it this weekend. Took UNC to a 3rd coach,. They're gonna get another chance to find out in the next few years. Liable to take Duke longer because they were NOTHING before K and will likely be nothing after K. More likely than we were. Same with Syrexcuse.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

We'll find out soon, just how NOT EASY it is to replace a top coach.
UCONN just demonstrated it this weekend. Took UNC to a 3rd coach,. They're gonna get another chance to find out in the next few years. Liable to take Duke longer because they were NOTHING before K and will likely be nothing after K. More likely than we were. Same with Syrexcuse.
 

UConn surely isn’t Indiana when it comes to basketball. Duke. We will see.

Indiana did it to themselves however. Syracuse Recently went through a worse scandal than us and came out nearly unscathed.

Heck Louisville will rebound better than we did and their situation makes ours look like child’s play.


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[HoosierRobbie]

Alot of talk on the Louisville sports talk radio that Painter and Alford are on the list of coaches they will be contacting about the HC job. Also talk of Chris Mack since his wife is from there. Somehow they believe that they are going to get a big name to come in and rebuild the program even with 4yrs probation and not knowing what the NCAA is going to do about FBI deal. Can't see anyone with a name wanting to come in with more questions to be answered. Personally want to see them have a hard time so I can rag them like their fanbase did ours during our search. I would like them to hire local coach Scotty Davenport from Bellarmine.

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Louisville fans are delusional. They also think there is zero chance that Romeo goes to IU. They are a salty bunch towards IU for some reason.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

UConn surely isn’t Indiana when it comes to basketball. Duke. We will see.

Indiana did it to themselves however. Syracuse Recently went through a worse scandal than us and came out nearly unscathed.

Heck Louisville will rebound better than we did and their situation makes ours look like child’s play.


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I’ll back off this comment about Louisville because I don’t know, but my guess is their record over the next 3 years will blow our record with the first 3 years of Crean out of the water.


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[HoosierHoops1]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

UConn surely isn’t Indiana when it comes to basketball. Duke. We will see.

Indiana did it to themselves however. Syracuse Recently went through a worse scandal than us and came out nearly unscathed.

Heck Louisville will rebound better than we did and their situation makes ours look like child’s play.


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Uconn recently has had a run similar to Indiana '76-87'

Doesn't Syracuse situation prove my point, not yours? That the situation that Tom Crean walked into is unprecedented. 

Unless things really get way worse, whomever takes over at Syracuse will walk into a better day 1 roster and situation.

Indiana had 19 f's because we actually do grade basketball players.