College Bball Thread

[Banksyrules]

Just now, Banksyrules said:

I don’t know how many minorities are actually on this board. I’m one of them and I only speak about myself. For me personally even with graduate degrees and an MBA from UNC/IU and even being financially well off your aware of it 24/7. It’s not always right at ya like a KKK member out to get you but it’s constantly there. There really is no right or wrong, it’s just always there and something I always have to be aware of. When people here say “watch it be about race” I kind of roll my eyes a bit because I just don’t think people get it. As a minority, I always have to think about my surroundings and how to converse with people. It’s “watch it be about race” because as a minority your taught to always know your surroundings and to think about how to engage with people.  As a minority, I have to ask myself the way Gard grabbed Howard, would have he done that to Izzo or Painter? It’s not fair to maybe ask that question but because we live in that world we constantly have to ask that question. Just my point of view and I’m closed on this particular topic.     

By the way I think both men are in the wrong here.  

[IU - Kaulie]

3 hours ago, Chris007 said:

First off it was a bush-league timeout by Gard. Your up 15 who cares if they're pressing, their not going to score 15 in 15 seconds. Teach the walk-ons how to break the press in the next 5 minutes of practice.

Howard was going to blow by Gard, He said I'll remember that next year (so what), but then Gard puts his hands-on Howard. Howard clearly says twice Don't touch me. 1 game suspension for Gard right there. 

Howard IMO should get a 3-5 game suspension for doing his part. Wisconsin assistants 1 game for their roles, maybe 2 for the one who his hands-on Michigan players to escalate all of this. 

 

Agree 100%

I will add it looked like UW staff put their hands on a UM player.  Their are a lot of calls for Howard to be fired (I think that is way too extreme) but if a UW staffer did indeed put his hands on a UM player in any way we even if not threatening I think you can make the case that person should be fired.

[HoosierX]

3 hours ago, Chris007 said:

First off it was a bush-league timeout by Gard. Your up 15 who cares if they're pressing, their not going to score 15 in 15 seconds. Teach the walk-ons how to break the press in the next 5 minutes of practice.

Howard was going to blow by Gard, He said I'll remember that next year (so what), but then Gard puts his hands-on Howard. Howard clearly says twice Don't touch me. 1 game suspension for Gard right there. 

Howard IMO should get a 3-5 game suspension for doing his part. Wisconsin assistants 1 game for their roles, maybe 2 for the one who his hands-on Michigan players to escalate all of this. 

 

I’m sorry but I completely disagree with your first point and could very easily make the same point using your exact logic. What do you gain by pressing down 15 with 25 seconds left? You’re not going to win and you’re not going to learn much pressing players at the end of the opposing team’s bench.

If you’re going to do it, don’t get pissed when the other team calls a timeout

[GloryDays]

1 hour ago, hoosierbgh said:

Actual basketball history paints a different story. The roles weren't reversed when John Chaney threatened to kill Calipari and tried to strangle him during a press conference. Very few if anyone called for Chaney to be fired, despite it reportedly being at least the 3rd time Chaney had attacked an opposing coach, in fact he was only suspended one game for that incident. IMO, anyone calling for Howard to be fired is more a product of the current time, of a society prone to regular overreaction and constant handwringing over anything or nothing, than anything racial.

In most cases, the person that reacts gets the worst of the punishment, with the one provoking the attack often experiencing little or no consequence. That pretty much seems to be the philosophy of Badgerball and they've made a living on that for years. Based on what I saw, I think Gard should get a couple games while I expect Howard will get 2-3 times that. Personally, I'd like to see Wisconsin get hammered as much as Michigan but I don't think that is likely. 

Well,in Chaney's defense it was Calamari.

[Chris007]

12 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

I don’t know how many minorities are actually on this board. I’m one of them and I only speak about myself. For me personally even with graduate degrees and an MBA from UNC/IU and even being financially well off your aware of it 24/7. It’s not always right at ya like a KKK member out to get you but it’s constantly there. There really is no right or wrong, it’s just always there and something I always have to be aware of. When people here say “watch it be about race” I kind of roll my eyes a bit because I just don’t think people get it. As a minority, I always have to think about my surroundings and how to converse with people. It’s “watch it be about race” because as a minority your taught to always know your surroundings and to think about how to engage with people.  As a minority, I have to ask myself the way Gard grabbed Howard, would have he done that to Izzo or Painter? It’s not fair to maybe ask that question but because we live in that world we constantly have to ask that question. Just my point of view and I’m closed on this particular topic.     

Thank you that is what I was trying to say but you said it much better. It's sad that we have to think like this but it's the truth. I was blind to it for about 30 years, then married my wife and had my eyes opened. 

[Chris007]

9 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

I’m sorry but I completely disagree with your first point and could very easily make the same point using your exact logic. What do you gain by pressing down 15 with 25 seconds left? You’re not going to win and you’re not going to learn much pressing players at the end of the opposing team’s bench.

If you’re going to do it, don’t get pissed when the other team calls a timeout

I understand. In my year's coaching I just always thought it was BS to call a timeout up a lot. 

[hoosierbgh]

9 minutes ago, Woodson1980 said:

Well,in Chaney's defense it was Calamari.

True, but I think that was before the desire to strangle Calipari was near universal!

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Quite the teaser from The Field of 68

BREAKING NEWS: A five-star recruit will be making a surprise commitment on The Field of 68 at 4:00 p.m. ET today. Make sure to tune in here, especially if you are a fan of the Big Ten ...

[MikeRoberts]

3 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Because if roles were reversed no one would be saying anything about Gard. It's always about race. Black people have been treated differently in this country for the last 200 years.

Seriously Chris, this makes no sense. So you are saying if Gard punched another man in the face after a basketball game, no one would be saying anything? 
he would have already been fired

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, MikeRoberts said:

Seriously Chris, this makes no sense. So you are saying if Gard punched another man in the face after a basketball game, no one would be saying anything? 
he would have already been fired

I'm saying people's first reaction wouldn't be to fire him. Like I saw all day yesterday with Howard. 

[Uspshoosier]

14 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I understand. In my year's coaching I just always thought it was BS to call a timeout up a lot. 

It’s also BS to press a bunch of walk-ons with your starters when you are down a lot 

[IUc2016]

6 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Quite the teaser from The Field of 68

BREAKING NEWS: A five-star recruit will be making a surprise commitment on The Field of 68 at 4:00 p.m. ET today. Make sure to tune in here, especially if you are a fan of the Big Ten ...

KWAME EVANS!!

jk probably somebody to Ohio State or MSU

[bigrod]

4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

It’s also BS to press a bunch of walk-ons with your starters when you are down a lot 

Exactly what I thought. Don't be PO'ed when a coach calls time out in response to what you are doing. He's got his bench in. He is trying to run the game out.

Believe me, I will never be a Gard defender, but in this case, He called time because Howard decided to press his bench players. Howard was still playing ball, but Gard isn't supposed to?

[hoosierbgh]

30 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

As a minority, I always have to think about my surroundings and how to converse with people. It’s “watch it be about race” because as a minority your taught to always know your surroundings and to think about how to engage with people.       

That seems like good, universal advice to me.  If more people thought about their surroundings and especially how they interacted with others before engaging, we'd have fewer incidents like this. Of course, ego, like in this situation, often comes into play to escalate a situation.  

[Hovadipo]

2 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

KWAME EVANS!!

jk probably somebody to Ohio State or MSU

The consensus in the replies is a guy to Illinois which makes my skin crawl. 

[IUc2016]

1 minute ago, Hovadipo said:

The consensus in the replies is a guy to Illinois which makes my skin crawl. 

looks like Kylan Boswell as he has taken two officials recently. Illinois last weekend and Arizona this weekend 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

9 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm saying people's first reaction wouldn't be to fire him. Like I saw all day yesterday with Howard. 

Nah people already hate Gard. They'd be asking for the death sentence. 

[AKHoosier]

1 hour ago, hoosierbgh said:

Actual basketball history paints a different story. The roles weren't reversed when John Chaney threatened to kill Calipari and tried to strangle him during a press conference. Very few if anyone called for Chaney to be fired, despite it reportedly being at least the 3rd time Chaney had attacked an opposing coach, in fact he was only suspended one game for that incident. IMO, anyone calling for Howard to be fired is more a product of the current time, of a society prone to regular overreaction and constant handwringing over anything or nothing, than anything racial.

Be careful, that doesn't support the narrative some are trying to create.

[Banksyrules]

Sooooooooooooooo big game tonight lol

[HoosierTrav]

14 hours ago, Southside said:

The league, and the nation, hell the world for that matters, is way too sanitized. 

Not trying to say violence isn't bad or solves things. What I am saying is that people are both good and bad, and both.... and life overall is grey and always will be despite what utopian ideas you might by in to. 

Human nature.... flaws. And punches lol.... 

Equal rights….. and lefts!