College Bball Thread

[HoosierHoopster]

20 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/kansas-holds-bill-self-kurtis-townsend-off-road-for-july-live-recruiting-period-as-ncaa-case-drags-on/

Amazing this has been going since 2019

[Demo]

Seriously,  just look at this for a minute.

[LIHoosier]

Furman was about 60 places higher in the NET than they were last year.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Field of 68 is releasing their Top 25 players of the last decade. They have released their 21-25 shots so far. 

25. Paolo Banchero(Duke)

24. Fred VanVleet(Wichita State)

23. Armando Bacon(North Carolina)

22. RJ Barrett(Duke)

21. Victor Oladipo(Indiana)

 

So a couple things... It'll be interesting to see if TJD or Yogi are in the Top 20 which I don't believe they will be. Also that Cody Zeller is guaranteed to not be, even though Vic is 21st. For whatever reason, Zeller is just underrated at this point as a Hoosier. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

5 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Field of 68 is releasing their Top 25 players of the last decade. They have released their 21-25 shots so far. 

25. Paolo Banchero(Duke)

24. Fred VanVleet(Wichita State)

23. Armando Bacon(North Carolina)

22. RJ Barrett(Duke)

21. Victor Oladipo(Indiana)

 

So a couple things... It'll be interesting to see if TJD or Yogi are in the Top 20 which I don't believe they will be. Also that Cody Zeller is guaranteed to not be, even though Vic is 21st. For whatever reason, Zeller is just underrated at this point as a Hoosier. 

Zeller over Oladipo all day as a college BB player. Both excellent!  Love them both, but if I’m drafting a CBB team, I’m taking Zeller.  
 

also, Armando BacoN is his new name forever. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

35 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Zeller over Oladipo all day as a college BB player. Both excellent!  Love them both, but if I’m drafting a CBB team, I’m taking Zeller.  
 

also, Armando BacoN is his new name forever. 

Bacon was definitely an autocorrect lol. 

 

I think Vic's story definitely boost him up. Not that he wasn't really good, but I think over the last 10 seasons, I'd put Cody and Yogi above him as a Hoosier. But that's just my opinion. They just released their 16-20 as well. 

[Stuhoo]

Walking in Boston with 15 year old son. Near the US Constitution in Charlestown, we see an outdoor basketball court.

Me: “I think that’s where Paul Revere and John Adams used to play.”

My son: “With Bohannon.”

 

[Uspshoosier]

 

[str8baller]

7 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Zeller over Oladipo all day as a college BB player. Both excellent!  Love them both, but if I’m drafting a CBB team, I’m taking Zeller.  
 

also, Armando BacoN is his new name forever. 

Absolutely. He was our best cbb player since Jeffries. Maybe even before that. 

[Stuhoo]

Yogi ended up being a better college player than Cody or Vic.

#hot take

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

9 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Yogi ended up being a better college player than Cody or Vic.

#hot take

You can make that argument. I'd still take Zeller. He without a doubt changed the entire program. We won 12 games before he got here and then won 26 his freshman year. And we can all thank him for Yogi coming in. But Yogi definitely has that argument and 2 B1G titles under his belt. 

[coonhounds]

Yogi ended up being a better college player than Cody or Vic.

#hot take

Don't agree he was better than vic and Cody but really wish he was older and was playing his junior senior level with Cody and vic cause even with crean that could have been a championship team

 

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[Brass Cannon]

Senior Yogi may have been better but I am not sure if I would say that.  To me Cody his second year was unstoppable by any player or opposing coach. Crean was the only person that could and did slow him down 

[Stuhoo]

27 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Senior Yogi may have been better but I am not sure if I would say that.  To me Cody his second year was unstoppable by any player or opposing coach. Crean was the only person that could and did slow him down 

Junior Yogi was pretty special too.

[Brass Cannon]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Junior Yogi was pretty special too.

True. Sometimes hard to remember because the team wasn’t so great 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

2 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

Senior Yogi may have been better but I am not sure if I would say that.  To me Cody his second year was unstoppable by any player or opposing coach. Crean was the only person that could and did slow him down 

Zeller has really became super underrated for some reason. I guess people feel he should have been way better. I don't know. I don't know. I think if Crean would have done some things differently he could have dominated more. But the narrative around him is just weird to me. 

[HoosierHoopster]

4 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Zeller has really became super underrated for some reason. I guess people feel he should have been way better. I don't know. I don't know. I think if Crean would have done some things differently he could have dominated more. But the narrative around him is just weird to me. 

Cody was so dominant, and agree he could've done even more. One of the best former IU players imo. At the same time, Vic was unstoppable as a junior, a monster defender who could dominate anyone, and Yogi was genuinely special all around. I can't rank those guys against each other, just can't, different positions, each became an incredible player at IU (and that's remembering how people used to bash Yogi for running into traffic and leaving his feet with nowhere to go as a frosh -- funny looking back at that now).

[Demo]

Hell of a hire. Dude knows everybody and he gets great effort out of kids.

[BGleas]

22 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Zeller has really became super underrated for some reason. I guess people feel he should have been way better. I don't know. I don't know. I think if Crean would have done some things differently he could have dominated more. But the narrative around him is just weird to me. 

Completely agree. Zeller was dominant from the second he stepped foot on campus. Not sure why people tend to minimize it or forget it?

I think maybe part of it is just that he only stayed 2 years, where a guy like Yogi and even TJD now stayed 4 years. I also think what plays into that is we wanted Zeller to be our sort of Tyler Hansbrough or someone similar. Someone that stayed even when he could have left. 

I really think that is part of it. But regardless, I still think Zeller is the most important, best, whatever you want to call it, player/recruit since the Crean era started. 

[Brass Cannon]

2 hours ago, BGleas said:

Completely agree. Zeller was dominant from the second he stepped foot on campus. Not sure why people tend to minimize it or forget it?

I think maybe part of it is just that he only stayed 2 years, where a guy like Yogi and even TJD now stayed 4 years. I also think what plays into that is we wanted Zeller to be our sort of Tyler Hansbrough or someone similar. Someone that stayed even when he could have left. 

I really think that is part of it. But regardless, I still think Zeller is the most important, best, whatever you want to call it, player/recruit since the Crean era started. 

I would agree.  Zeller showed the world we can be good without Bob Knight.  These recruits were at least alive during those years.