(2019) SF Trendon Watford to LSU

[Brass Cannon]

5 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

 

I really think both are truly solid points. You really get the feel of the old guard coming down, and this is just the way it is. I still feel $300k is light for their worth. Nobody can tell me Zion wasn’t worth tens of millions to the NCAA. If you had him in the title game I feel there are many more casual viewers. March Madness is the biggest money maker for the NCAA. That’s a fact, and it is also a star driven viewing experience. The title game was fantastic, but the casual kid watches Zion. He drives ratings. He should get his imo.

 

 

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Your point about Zion brings up a point that is related. 1 of the reasons I want rid of 1 and done is I feel having these stars is bad for the league. I really feel that the superstar discount is beginning to get out of hand in officiating. Both Pro and college. 

[BGleas]

5 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

 

I really think both are truly solid points. You really get the feel of the old guard coming down, and this is just the way it is. I still feel $300k is light for their worth. Nobody can tell me Zion wasn’t worth tens of millions to the NCAA. If you had him in the title game I feel there are many more casual viewers. March Madness is the biggest money maker for the NCAA. That’s a fact, and it is also a star driven viewing experience. The title game was fantastic, but the casual kid watches Zion. He drives ratings. He should get his imo.

 

 

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I agree with your point, the NCAA, ACC, Duke, all the broadcast partners, etc. all made millions off of Zion Williamson. That's absolutely accurate and true. 

But at the same time, Zion himself also made tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars off the exposure and branding he received by playing college basketball. He would not have been the #1 pick if he came right out of high school and the branding and exposure he received playing college basketball will garner him a $100 million shoe deal which would not have happened if he was allowed to go the NBA right out of high school, as well as other endorsements. 

Zion Williamson benefited incredibly by playing college basketball. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

For those still holding out hope, your wait should be over by May 15.

https://www.zagsblog.com/2019/05/07/trendon-watford-remains-uncommitted-aiming-to-decide-by-may-15-signing-date/?fbclid=IwAR33kYJTxuRyTrISjTyx5d5h1iYAuCX6NkDvemorfFPxv1x512uoidNIohU

[bigrod]

1 hour ago, BGleas said:

I agree with your point, the NCAA, ACC, Duke, all the broadcast partners, etc. all made millions off of Zion Williamson. That's absolutely accurate and true. 

But at the same time, Zion himself also made tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars off the exposure and branding he received by playing college basketball. He would not have been the #1 pick if he came right out of high school and the branding and exposure he received playing college basketball will garner him a $100 million shoe deal which would not have happened if he was allowed to go the NBA right out of high school, as well as other endorsements. 

Zion Williamson benefited incredibly by playing college basketball. 

...without even getting a degree from the prestigious Duke University.

Yeah, this seems to be lost in this world of instant gratification.

I get it - it used to be getting a free college education was enough, and then college ball became a huge business. The fact is though, the players wouldn't gain popularity and get exposure if the networks weren't making money off of it. The shoe companies wouldn't be giving millions to the players if they weren't making money off of it. Colleges and coaches wouldn't fight for players to be on their team if they weren't making money off of it. At the end of the day, consumers and taxpayers are footing the bill for the whole thing.

The athletes can say they are being taken advantage of, but they are also benefiting... like almost everyone else. Many players wouldn't be considering leaving school early without the exposure they got from the tournament.

The fact that we haven't come up with a better system for players that really have no interest in college is the problem. But then again, the NCAA has a dog in the fight. Do you think they really want to lose their piece of the pie?

[mdn82]

I agree with your point, the NCAA, ACC, Duke, all the broadcast partners, etc. all made millions off of Zion Williamson. That's absolutely accurate and true. 
But at the same time, Zion himself also made tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars off the exposure and branding he received by playing college basketball. He would not have been the #1 pick if he came right out of high school and the branding and exposure he received playing college basketball will garner him a $100 million shoe deal which would not have happened if he was allowed to go the NBA right out of high school, as well as other endorsements. 
Zion Williamson benefited incredibly by playing college basketball. 

Oh for sure. I absolutely agree both benefited from his time in NCAA. But monetarily is there any other place than the NCAA that Zion doesn’t make $100 million last year? Can you imagine the Zion commercials last year if he could get paid? Imo that would also positively impact the NCAA more than it already did. That isn’t always the case on the flip side obviously.


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[HoosierAloha]

...without even getting a degree from the prestigious Duke University.
Yeah, this seems to be lost in this world of instant gratification.
I get it - it used to be getting a free college education was enough, and then college ball became a huge business. The fact is though, the players wouldn't gain popularity and get exposure if the networks weren't making money off of it. The shoe companies wouldn't be giving millions to the players if they weren't making money off of it. Colleges and coaches wouldn't fight for players to be on their team if they weren't making money off of it. At the end of the day, consumers and taxpayers are footing the bill for the whole thing.
The athletes can say they are being taken advantage of, but they are also benefiting... like almost everyone else. Many players wouldn't be considering leaving school early without the exposure they got from the tournament.
The fact that we haven't come up with a better system for players that really have no interest in college is the problem. But then again, the NCAA has a dog in the fight. Do you think they really want to lose their piece of the pie?

And severely punishing schools for paying players would hamper their ability to keep those players under their umbrella making them millions.

In a perfect world, players are allowed into the NBA/G-League right out of high school. The players choosing to go to school stay 3 years before they’re draft eligible. This will never happen because the NBA doesn’t want that.


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[Deserthoozier]

3 hours ago, BGleas said:

I agree with your point, the NCAA, ACC, Duke, all the broadcast partners, etc. all made millions off of Zion Williamson. That's absolutely accurate and true. 

But at the same time, Zion himself also made tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars off the exposure and branding he received by playing college basketball. He would not have been the #1 pick if he came right out of high school and the branding and exposure he received playing college basketball will garner him a $100 million shoe deal which would not have happened if he was allowed to go the NBA right out of high school, as well as other endorsements. 

Zion Williamson benefited incredibly by playing college basketball. 

Would not have gotten the exposure if went straight to the G league either. Also, probably would have been paid A LOT less!

[BGleas]

1 hour ago, mdn82 said:

Oh for sure. I absolutely agree both benefited from his time in NCAA. But monetarily is there any other place than the NCAA that Zion doesn’t make $100 million last year? Can you imagine the Zion commercials last year if he could get paid? Imo that would also positively impact the NCAA more than it already did. That isn’t always the case on the flip side obviously.


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Tough to answer. He would not have gotten $100 million last summer heading into the NBA season because he wasn't thought of at that level as a player. He wasn't projected to be the #1 pick if he came out last year, so then it would have come down to how good of a rookie season he was having. He he had come right from high school and killed it in the NBA immediately, then he might have earned $100 million in the NBA this past season, but that's an unknown. 

By going to Duke for a year, he'll be a $100 millionaire before he ever steps foot on an NBA court. 

[8bucks]

I mistakenly thought he committed to LSU for some reason.


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[Hornsby]

I mistakenly thought he committed to LSU for some reason.


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On the 15th he will.

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[yogisballin]

Is this thing over yet? Or is everyone assuming it’s LSU. My apologies, I just don’t follow recruiting like I used to years ago


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Is this thing over yet? Or is everyone assuming it’s LSU. My apologies, I just don’t follow recruiting like I used to years ago


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Assumed to be a money/perks offering southern school.

Amazingly LSU considered leaders, with Alabama and Memphis playing along.

Hard not to assume this is a money grab and highest bidder situation. Pretty sad.

Christian never made the big bucks unfortunately. Trendon and family trying to ensure he does.


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[RaceToTheTop]

On 5/7/2019 at 1:27 PM, Hardwood83 said:

I know there are a lot of moving parts- coaches leaving, players transferring and declaring, etc.....but is waiting until the middle of MAY to choose a school really necessary? Obviously it's not just Watford since it's trending this this way for all the top 50 kids, but it just seems silly.  

I don't like it either, but from a top 50 kid point if view I understand it.  At that point you know which coaches are where, what players have transferred, and mostly where players stand in terms of the draft.  I do wonder a little if Harris would have chosen North Carolina had he known that Christian Keeling would transfer to UNC.  That makes 4 freshman guards plus a grad transfer coming in.  And Keeling is very good.

[yogisballin]

Assumed to be a money/perks offering southern school.

Amazingly LSU considered leaders, with Alabama and Memphis playing along.

Hard not to assume this is a money grab and highest bidder situation. Pretty sad.

Christian never made the big bucks unfortunately. Trendon and family trying to ensure he does.


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IF this is a money grab then, let’s play fellas! **** em (the ncaa)


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[HoosierFan1994]

He is announcing next Monday, May 20th at his high school. 

[mdn82]

He is announcing next Monday, May 20th at his high school. 

Since it’s my birthday I wonder if I should ask for a card. Or wait until the 21st for the check to clear.


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[Demo]

Since he’s obviously not coming to Bloomington, I hope the kid picks Bama. I like Nate Oats a lot as a Coach. And I really don’t want to lose the respect for the family that I inevitably will if he plays for an unapologetic scumbag like Will Wade.

[SlamaJamaSisley]

 

[Str8Hoosiers]

Ok... take a guess... based SOLEY on the hats on the table.

MEMPHIS....

LSU hat looks clean Flat bill, IU hat looks old, Alabama hat looks used... Memphis Hat looks clean and new, with a nice pre-bend to the bill....

 

Hey we analyze everything right?

 

[NashvilleHoosier]

My completely uneducated opinion.....LSU. It appears to be the only one he bought a specific size fitted hat.