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[Stuhoo]

26 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I've been following IU basketball and college basketball in general longer than you've been alive. I don't need your input on what constitutes a good basketball coach. He lost the fan base after year 2 and when you lose the fan base here, you're done. 

Oh well, onto another cycle of toxicity. It's what we do.

OH YEAH?

Well @Class of '66 Old Fart has been following IU Basketball since Branch McCracken was in diapers and HE thinks that Mike Woodson was always a poopy-@$$ coach and the IU fanbase is jus' ducky, so THERE!

(OF - you are welcome for me making you look... wise).

[iu eyedoc]

13 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I've been following IU basketball and college basketball in general longer than you've been alive. I don't need your input on what constitutes a good basketball coach. He lost the fan base after year 2 and when you lose the fan base here, you're done. 

Oh well, onto another cycle of toxicity. It's what we do.

You may have been and if so...so what. Following doesn't mean understanding. Watching Cosmos doesn't make me an astrophysicist. 

And pretending the fan base dictated CMW demises is the saddest excuse ever.

[Stuhoo]

4 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Mike Woodson had more of a chance than any other college program would've given him. This thread also isn't about Mike Woodson.

1. Spot on target post.
2. It is the slowest of slow seasons :]

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

1. Spot on target post.
2. It is the slowest of slow seasons :]

In regards to it being slow.  At least now we are waiting for football season to start instead of November 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

45 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I think they have a 15 day window to enter the portal now that the coach has been named. Could be mistaken. Also could be mistaken, but pretty sure the players are all on campus already so I'd be a little surprised if any of them end up leaving. Seems worth a shot though.

Can’t find it at the moment but a different window applies to an interim vs new coach. 

[Uspshoosier]

47 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Can’t find it at the moment but a different window applies to an interim vs new coach. 

31 days for an interim I believe 

[Golfman25]

2 hours ago, AH1971 said:

I've been following IU basketball and college basketball in general longer than you've been alive. I don't need your input on what constitutes a good basketball coach. He lost the fan base after year 2 and when you lose the fan base here, you're done. 

Oh well, onto another cycle of toxicity. It's what we do.

If you think Woodson was a good coach, I don’t know what to tell you.  

[AH1971]

11 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

If you think Woodson was a good coach, I don’t know what to tell you.  

Like I said, I don't need anyone's opinion as to what constitutes a good coach.

When your program reaches the level of toxicity that has become IU basketball, it doesn't matter.  

[PartyintheVillas]

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

Like I said, I don't need anyone's opinion as to what constitutes a good coach.

When your program reaches the level of toxicity that has become IU basketball, it doesn't matter.  

 

[iu eyedoc]

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

Like I said, I don't need anyone's opinion as to what constitutes a good coach.

When your program reaches the level of toxicity that has become IU basketball, it doesn't matter.  

How is a top 10 NIL budget, top ten and B1G leading attendance, and state of the art facilities toxic?  Oh damn, I forgot about those 9405 mean,err 9404(AH1971 excluded) mean BTB members

IU needs someone that doesn't listen to anyone but himself, thinks he is  unquestionable program and state royalty, and calls any critic not a real fan. Now where can we find such a man with unfaltering hubris

[AH1971]

7 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

How is a top 10 NIL budget, top ten and B1G leading attendance, and state of the art facilities toxic?  Oh damn, I forgot about those 9405 mean,err 9404(AH1971 excluded) mean members posting bad things about you if you are a HC that refuses to recruit, refuses to adjust, or refuses to put down the scotch and cigar to actually do your job.

How will anyone ever make it?

You think the toxicity around this program started with Woodson? There's a reason why IU is on coach #7 this century.

[Brass Cannon]

4 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

You think the toxicity around this program started with Woodson? There's a reason why IU is on coach #7 this century.

The only one of those coaches that had anything remotely close to success was Tom Crean.  The rest earned every bit of the fanbases ire.  Heck a serious program wouldn’t have given most of them the job much less 4 years 
 

 

[AH1971]

11 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

The only one of those coaches that had anything remotely close to success was Tom Crean.  The rest earned every bit of the fanbases ire.  Heck a serious program wouldn’t have given most of them the job much less 4 years 
 

 

You think IU hires shitty coaches on purpose? The applicant pool gets worse every cycle. Who on Earth is going to stake their career coming here just to be run out by a bunch of dumb and delusional fans who still think it’s 1985?

[WayneFleekHoosier]

15 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

You think the toxicity around this program started with Woodson? There's a reason why IU is on coach #7 this century.

Yes and the administration pre-Dolson is the reason why.  

Nil is our chance to battle on an nearly even playing field.  They gave Woodson top 10-20 money for roster.  They are giving DeVries and actually trying to win.  
 

The admin didn’t care about winning for a long time.  Sampson could have been a generational coach here under the right administration.  
 

So, really we are only on Coach 2 post NIL. Can’t really count the stuff before that especially if trying to blame fans again. 

[iu eyedoc]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

You think the toxicity around this program started with Woodson? There's a reason why IU is on coach #7 this century.

Yeah, it's crazy how so many of those coaches went on to great success once they got away from the glowing swamp surrounding AH. Those, not fired for blowing up the program and given a 5 year show cause penalty, have went on to stack up 0 NCAA tournament wins. That's kind of an unfair stat by me though as 3 of those 4 haven't made a single tournament since leaving IU.  

I guess that IU toxiciy is like herpes, once you've got it, you've got it.

[Pagoda]

6 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

You think IU hires shitty coaches on purpose? The applicant pool gets worse every cycle. Who on Earth is going to stake their career coming here just to be run out by a bunch of dumb and delusional fans who still think it’s 1985?

False.  Cycle one the search committee interviewed no one and we hired Mike Davis.

[iu eyedoc]

7 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

You think IU hires shitty coaches on purpose? The applicant pool gets worse every cycle. Who on Earth is going to stake their career coming here just to be run out by a bunch of dumb and delusional fans who still think it’s 1985?

That you think coaches are run out by fans is incomprehensible.

[JSHoosier]

8 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

False.  Cycle one the search committee interviewed no one and we hired Mike Davis.

And another coach was hired simply because he played here before some of the recruits' parents were born.

Some of the searches have been, let's say, questionable.

This thread sure devolved into IU's struggles to find good coaching. 

[AZ Hoosier]

12 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

You think IU hires shitty coaches on purpose? The applicant pool gets worse every cycle. Who on Earth is going to stake their career coming here just to be run out by a bunch of dumb and delusional fans who still think it’s 1985?

They damn sure did at least once. They hired a mediocre NBA coach who deemed himself worthy of the title "King of Indiana" while preferring to smoke cigars, drink wine and play golf over working the recruiting trail. And they continued to prop him up with tons of cash for the transfer portal and NIL payouts, despite the fact that he could not coach his way out of a wet paper bag.

No one else would even look at him... but IU hired him, extended him and gave him unwarranted raises.

[iu eyedoc]

3 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

And another coach was hired simply because he played here before some of the recruits' parents were born.

Some of the searches have been, let's say, questionable.

This thread sure devolved into IU's struggles to find good coaching. 

So are you saying you are 'team bad hire" and not "team coach destroyed by BTBers?"