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Posted
2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

the year we were comfortably in with Archie we would have been about a nine seed.

Depending on how the rest of the BTT would have gone.  If they make a run in that then you are looking at a better seed then 9 but it’s an incomplete season that we will never know what might have been 

Posted
21 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

There are also era differences.  Archie could never buy players.  Imagine Woody without NIL and he has to recruit pre-NIL style.  Holy crap I can’t imagine how bad we would have been.

And if Woody doesn’t inherit TJD… his first year probably looks more like his actual third year.

But, at end of the day they both stink so whoever someone thinks is worse I won’t argue much.

Yeah, they are arguing about who is the the tallest midget.  :) 

Posted
1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

IMO Archie had a better hire resume than Woody, but Woody, as soul sucking as he was, had a ‘better’ tenure as IU coach over Archie. Archie was incomparably bad.

Record wise yes. Woody had TJD. Archie has an injured star guard. Woody didn’t “coach” at all.

Posted
12 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Btw, while not in the Big Ten, all bad P5 coaches pale in comparison to the GOAT of bad big program coaches, Kenny Payne!

UL is still paying Payne for another year on that buyout.  Ouch!!

Posted
22 minutes ago, HoosierDevils said:

Archie also had TJD and went 12-15 (7-12) with him. 

Fair - but let's say you have a game with the same players on each team. Do you want Archie or Woody coaching your team? CAM is pretty bad, but I'd take him 10 times out of 10 against Woody. What coaching did Woody ever do?? 

this convo is probably getting old to the Board. Lol

Posted
12 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Fair - but let's say you have a game with the same players on each team. Do you want Archie or Woody coaching your team? CAM is pretty bad, but I'd take him 10 times out of 10 against Woody. What coaching did Woody ever do?? 

this convo is probably getting old to the Board. Lol

Let’s spice up this aging debate: Where would you rank Mike Davis among Woody and CAM?

Just kidding.  No need to torture ourselves.  

Posted
1 hour ago, HoosierDevils said:

Archie also had TJD and went 12-15 (7-12) with him. 

Played that year with no fans in the building for home games so no home court advantage all year and they played the 4 hardest schedule overall that year as well.   He still sucked as coach at IU but some perspective on that season needs to be added 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Is this thing on? How did I go back to being a newbie? Am I still alive?

I enjoy the style of basketball I'm seeing, but it doesn't seem we have enough talent. 

Did you see the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey?  You remember the ending?  That’s what happened.  :)

Posted
1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

Played that year with no fans in the building for home games so no home court advantage all year and they played the 4 hardest schedule overall that year as well.   He still sucked as coach at IU but some perspective on that season needs to be added 

Umm, didn't we beat a ranked Iowa team twice that year?  Like Top Ten both times?  

Posted
7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Is this thing on? How did I go back to being a newbie? Am I still alive?

I enjoy the style of basketball I'm seeing, but it doesn't seem we have enough talent. 

Welcome aboard newbie!!!!!!

Posted
31 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Is this thing on? How did I go back to being a newbie? Am I still alive?

I enjoy the style of basketball I'm seeing, but it doesn't seem we have enough talent. 

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