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1 minute ago, str8baller said:

If we win Monday night Dolson doesn’t have a leash. He’ll be like one of those billionaire’s dogs. He can crap on the floor, puke up last nights pot roast, and the servants will rush in to clean it up and apologize.  We’ll all laugh about how endearingly wacky he is. 
 

Nobody is gonna care about this basketball program. 

Sadly the last part seems to be true thus far. You can just tell there is very little excitement around the progrum right now and all the focus is on football (rightfully so).

 

my fear for the basketball program is that, football will sustain success and basketball money/support fades away thus limiting us even further. 
 

I’ll probably get nailed to the wall for this one…..but honestly the football run has done very little for me, mainly because I don’t really enjoy football like most do. It’s neat to see, and I watch every single game. But it doesn’t leave me feeling the way I do when IU basketball is good. 
 

I’m 34 years old so really the best teams I’ve seen were from 2000 and on that I can specifically remember. I’d say the Crean years were my most memorable because of the few runs we went on…albeit sweet 16s we were still in the national spotlight. We were talked about….now not at all. Literally none but us cares about IU basketball, the diehards….its tough to watch what once was fade away and see another sport take over….

Posted
5 minutes ago, FortWayneHoosier said:

Sadly the last part seems to be true thus far. You can just tell there is very little excitement around the progrum right now and all the focus is on football (rightfully so).

 

my fear for the basketball program is that, football will sustain success and basketball money/support fades away thus limiting us even further. 
 

I’ll probably get nailed to the wall for this one…..but honestly the football run has done very little for me, mainly because I don’t really enjoy football like most do. It’s neat to see, and I watch every single game. But it doesn’t leave me feeling the way I do when IU basketball is good. 
 

I’m 34 years old so really the best teams I’ve seen were from 2000 and on that I can specifically remember. I’d say the Crean years were my most memorable because of the few runs we went on…albeit sweet 16s we were still in the national spotlight. We were talked about….now not at all. Literally none but us cares about IU basketball, the diehards….its tough to watch what once was fade away and see another sport take over….

A couple of us posted on this in a different thread a few weeks back, but football being so bad is the only thing that’s allowed the basketball team to retain support through 25 years of futility. That’s now over. No more free rides. 
 

For me, I love IU basketball more than any other sporting team. But it’s really nice to see excellence in another sport and football is my 2nd favorite. Excellence in itself is a draw, no matter the form.  
 

It’s whatever…hope springs eternal. Maybe Devries mounts a February charge. Maybe Cuban sweeps in for portal season and buys us a Final Four team. I didn’t expect to win this game. The crap basketball just gets old.

Posted
2 minutes ago, str8baller said:

A couple of us posted on this in a different thread a few weeks back, but football being so bad is the only thing that’s allowed the basketball team to retain support through 25 years of futility. That’s now over. No more free rides. 
 

For me, I love IU basketball more than any other sporting team. But it’s really nice to see excellence in another sport and football is my 2nd favorite. Excellence in itself is a draw, no matter the form.  
 

It’s whatever…hope springs eternal. Maybe Devries mounts a February charge. Maybe Cuban sweeps in for portal season and buys us a Final Four team. I didn’t expect to win this game. The crap basketball just gets old.

Thank you for the reply. I don’t normally get this down but wow this stretch has been tough. 

Posted
13 minutes ago, FortWayneHoosier said:

Sadly the last part seems to be true thus far. You can just tell there is very little excitement around the progrum right now and all the focus is on football (rightfully so).

 

my fear for the basketball program is that, football will sustain success and basketball money/support fades away thus limiting us even further. 
 

I’ll probably get nailed to the wall for this one…..but honestly the football run has done very little for me, mainly because I don’t really enjoy football like most do. It’s neat to see, and I watch every single game. But it doesn’t leave me feeling the way I do when IU basketball is good. 
 

I’m 34 years old so really the best teams I’ve seen were from 2000 and on that I can specifically remember. I’d say the Crean years were my most memorable because of the few runs we went on…albeit sweet 16s we were still in the national spotlight. We were talked about….now not at all. Literally none but us cares about IU basketball, the diehards….its tough to watch what once was fade away and see another sport take over….

I was one of the biggest Woodson haters, but I can’t find it in myself to become a Devries hater. What’s the point? The Devries hire showed that no one was coming to save iubb. If we fire him after a few years, recent history shows the next coach won’t be much better. I watch a game like tonight’s second half and just come away thinking yup, that’s IU basketball. The iubb fanbase gets a lot of flack, but apathy is 100x worse than misdirected passion. Apathy is right where the fanbase is going. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Don’t fault the man for being right.  He got dunked on quite a bit because of paper victories.  He gets to take a victory lap.  Bout the closest this teams going to get to one 

Fair. 
But I do think this team can still play itself into contention- not on the road though, unless somehow Tucker finds his mojo again 

Posted
Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I was one of the biggest Woodson haters, but I can’t find it in myself to become a Devries hater. What’s the point? The Devries hire showed that no one was coming to save iubb. If we fire him after a few years, recent history shows the next coach won’t be much better. I watch a game like tonight’s second half and just come away thinking yup, that’s IU basketball. The iubb fanbase gets a lot of flack, but apathy is 100x worse than misdirected passion. Apathy is right where the fanbase is going. 

Agreed. I can’t bring myself to hate on Devries either it’s way too early. But we have held out hope in the past and it didn’t work out like most said it wouldn’t. I understand we aren’t gonna be a final 4 team every single year, but we gotta be competitive. I think we still have some opportunities to steal a few games here upcoming. This Iowa game could really turn the tides on the energy this team is lacking. Iowa is good but not Michigan good. They are beatable and we are blessed it’s at home. Our winless record on the road needs to change asap. 

Posted
1 minute ago, str8baller said:

Actually reminds me exactly of woody, but just a different style. You pretty much know when a team is going to exploit your weakness and you can’t do anything about 

He's going to do the necessary things to ensure we can recruit at an elite level globally. That was his intention but he fumbled the ball a bit coming in the door. Next years roster will be bigger in the paint, more physical and our perimeter players longer and more athletic. 

Posted
9 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

You enjoy your bleak negativity- it actually makes you happy. Lol 

I can assure you it doesn’t.  The past 2 football seasons have been glorious fun.  
 

But I’ve always had a good eye for things.  The board attacks me incessantly for posting what has proven to be true all along. 
 

I celebrate the wins. Believe me.  Year 1 DeVries was critical, I put a lot of stock into getting off on the right foot and so should have he.  His job has become much harder for him by not building a good enough team in year 1.  Minimal expectation are the tournament.  
 

But you don’t aim for minimal expectations and that is this teams ceiling. Always was.  

Losing formula from jumpstreet. Frustrating to know it, see it and not be able to do anything about besides post to my fellow fans. 

Posted

Winning at Michigan State was always going to be hard, but collapsing after being tied at 53 was frustrating and disheartening.  This team was talented enough to hang with Michigan State on the road for 3/4ths of the game.  The lack of on court leadership and determination was evident during the collapse. A senior laden team shouldn't have these issues.  The good news is that these issues that can still be corrected.  

Posted
43 minutes ago, FortWayneHoosier said:

Sadly the last part seems to be true thus far. You can just tell there is very little excitement around the progrum right now and all the focus is on football (rightfully so).

 

my fear for the basketball program is that, football will sustain success and basketball money/support fades away thus limiting us even further. 
 

I’ll probably get nailed to the wall for this one…..but honestly the football run has done very little for me, mainly because I don’t really enjoy football like most do. It’s neat to see, and I watch every single game. But it doesn’t leave me feeling the way I do when IU basketball is good. 
 

I’m 34 years old so really the best teams I’ve seen were from 2000 and on that I can specifically remember. I’d say the Crean years were my most memorable because of the few runs we went on…albeit sweet 16s we were still in the national spotlight. We were talked about….now not at all. Literally none but us cares about IU basketball, the diehards….its tough to watch what once was fade away and see another sport take over….

Lucky for you (and us), Pam Witten wants IU to be great at everything:  Biz school, Music School, Chemistry, etc., including football and basketball.  :) 

Posted
19 minutes ago, BA47591 said:

He's going to do the necessary things to ensure we can recruit at an elite level globally. That was his intention but he fumbled the ball a bit coming in the door. Next years roster will be bigger in the paint, more physical and our perimeter players longer and more athletic. 

That’s good to hear. I look forward to it.  
 

It’s certainly not easy to coach an under-talented team on 6 months notice, so I can forgive some of the awful execution too so long as there’s an eye towards fixing that next year too. 

Posted
24 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I was one of the biggest Woodson haters, but I can’t find it in myself to become a Devries hater. What’s the point? The Devries hire showed that no one was coming to save iubb. If we fire him after a few years, recent history shows the next coach won’t be much better. I watch a game like tonight’s second half and just come away thinking yup, that’s IU basketball. The iubb fanbase gets a lot of flack, but apathy is 100x worse than misdirected passion. Apathy is right where the fanbase is going. 

What??  No!!

Don't lose faith just because the IU management team made terrible hire after terrible hire.  Don't let the Sunshine Pumpers convince you that every hire is fantastic just to see the truth.

Devries was a terrible hire.  I have no idea what made Dolson think he would be good. Same for 4 years of Woodson.  Dude just doesn't understand successful basketball.

But you need to understand that Dolson just made a terrible choice.  There is a positive outcome out there, we just can't trust Dolson to do it.  We can easily get the right guy.  We have the resources, the funding, the fanbase to return quickly.  We just need to pick the right person to react quickly and make it happen.  Dolson ain't that guy, but I have faith the donor money will help

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