New Basketball Staff Thread

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1 minute ago, Asha’man said:

I think that’s already been announced he is going to Iowa. 

Yes, I didn't realize how long ago Hovadipo had made that comment, things are changing very quickly, it hard to keep up!

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7 hours ago, schoosier said:

I would bet CDD keeps a couple of staff members to ease the transition as well as give input on potential returning players. Hope Hulls & Calbert can be retained. 

Nope

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1 hour ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

So Did someone say Frazier won’t stay on with Hodges? If that’s the case does everyone think Frazier will come to IU? If so, I would think someone would leak that soon

I was listening to a West Virginia podcast and that was what they were saying. This was before Hodge was named but they did not make any suggestions about where he would go 

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7 hours ago, schoosier said:

I would bet CDD keeps a couple of staff members to ease the transition as well as give input on potential returning players. Hope Hulls & Calbert can be retained. 

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2 hours ago, Josh said:

That's interesting that the GM would report to the coach.  Seems like maybe he/she should have a different title, not that it matters.  Just from a business perspective seems odd to me

We already know it’s Cody!!  Wink wink!

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2 hours ago, Josh said:

That's interesting that the GM would report to the coach.  Seems like maybe he/she should have a different title, not that it matters.  Just from a business perspective seems odd to me

In college, that's not really weird. The coach is in charge of all aspects of the program.

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Just now, Silat Player said:

In college, that's not really weird. The coach is in charge of all aspects of the program.

I don't know, GM Andrew Luck just fired his coach.  It seems to be the opposite to me, the GM is in charge of all aspects of the business.  Again...not that it matters I guess just confounds me as a business executive

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1 hour ago, eddy4iu said:

Nope

Correct. They are all gone

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2 hours ago, Josh said:

I don't know, GM Andrew Luck just fired his coach.  It seems to be the opposite to me, the GM is in charge of all aspects of the business.  Again...not that it matters I guess just confounds me as a business executive

I think it’s a school by school basis at this point.  The GM at Michigan isn’t over the football coach. But the GM will go on recruiting trips to go over all the NIL and financials with the player and family once the recruitment gets serious enough. The GM sets the NIL structure by position and works with the collectives to ensure the amount of funds will be available. Which then allows the head coach to know which players are realistic or not. It also lets them spend more on areas the HC’s system values more. Think OSU at WR and Michigan at RB. 

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8 hours ago, Josh said:

I don't know, GM Andrew Luck just fired his coach.  It seems to be the opposite to me, the GM is in charge of all aspects of the business.  Again...not that it matters I guess just confounds me as a business executive

I think that’s a special situation. Luck wouldn’t take that job to be bossed around by some low level P5 coach. He’s probably more like the “AD specifically for football “ there.  And quite frankly Stanford doesn’t care care enough to acquiesce to some athletic coach anyhow. 
 

I think in college from a business perspective, the football and basketball coach are basically like the CEO/President of their own little 20 - 100mil dollar business. The GM is going to be like the CFO. Head assistant COO. So on and so forth.  
 

In pro sports it’s a little different unless the coach has reached a certain status. Guys like Andy Reid, Bill Belichek, Popovich, Phil Jackson would have essentially been more powerful than their GMs, but that’s a rare arrangement. 

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51 minutes ago, str8baller said:

I think that’s a special situation. Luck wouldn’t take that job to be bossed around by some low level P5 coach. He’s probably more like the “AD specifically for football “ there.  And quite frankly Stanford doesn’t care care enough to acquiesce to some athletic coach anyhow. 
 

I think in college from a business perspective, the football and basketball coach are basically like the CEO/President of their own little 20 - 100mil dollar business. The GM is going to be like the CFO. Head assistant COO. So on and so forth.  
 

In pro sports it’s a little different unless the coach has reached a certain status. Guys like Andy Reid, Bill Belichek, Popovich, Phil Jackson would have essentially been more powerful than their GMs, but that’s a rare arrangement. 

If you go back in history there was a time when the biggest coaches were also GM.  I think it was Jimmy Johnson who started that saying “if you want me to cook the meal, I want to but the ingredients.”   That is basically the college model — coach rules everything.  But it’s too big of a job for one person.  So bringing in help to handle the money and player personnel makes sense.  What you call them is irrelevant.  

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10 hours ago, MrBBall said:

Correct. They are all gone

Calbert is my all-time favorite player.  I even bought his Bullets jersey when he went pro.  

I could not respect Hulls more.  He came to IU when we were at rock bottom, he got his @$$ completely kicked for two years, but he stuck with it and won a B1G title.  You can't be more of a Hoosier than Hulls.

While I love these guys as players, I don't know if they are good assistants and/or if they fit with CDD's system.  It appears they aren't a fit, and while it hurts, I'm glad we are seemingly not providing any favoritism towards former players with respect to coaching positions... as we know that can be slightly detrimental (or if it's the head coach, devastating).

Of course though, with former players like this we should always be welcoming them back, trying to keep them involved where we can, and keeping them in mind for any jobs they can get on their merits.

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35 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Calbert is my all-time favorite player.  I even bought his Bullets jersey when he went pro.  

I could not respect Hulls more.  He came to IU when we were at rock bottom, he got his @$$ completely kicked for two years, but he stuck with it and won a B1G title.  You can't be more of a Hoosier than Hulls.

While I love these guys as players, I don't know if they are good assistants and/or if they fit with CDD's system.  It appears they aren't a fit, and while it hurts, I'm glad we are seemingly not providing any favoritism towards former players with respect to coaching positions... as we know that can be slightly detrimental (or if it's the head coach, devastating).

Of course though, with former players like this we should always be welcoming them back, trying to keep them involved where we can, and keeping them in mind for any jobs they can get on their merits.

Reply well said. I would always want alumni around and bring in the locker room and engaged. It can’t hurt. 

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1 hour ago, Golfman25 said:

If you go back in history there was a time when the biggest coaches were also GM.  I think it was Jimmy Johnson who started that saying “if you want me to cook the meal, I want to but the ingredients.”   That is basically the college model — coach rules everything.  But it’s too big of a job for one person.  So bringing in help to handle the money and player personnel makes sense.  What you call them is irrelevant.  

Bill Parcells "If they want you to cook the dinner, at least they ought to let you shop for some of the groceries"

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1 hour ago, Golfman25 said:

If you go back in history there was a time when the biggest coaches were also GM.  I think it was Jimmy Johnson who started that saying “if you want me to cook the meal, I want to but the ingredients.”   That is basically the college model — coach rules everything.  But it’s too big of a job for one person.  So bringing in help to handle the money and player personnel makes sense.  What you call them is irrelevant.  

As Josh pointed out, it was Parcells. But the same era and same sentiment. Those guys eventually got surpassed by teams with competent GM/Coach arrangements where the GM was left to do his job more independently.  
 

The question is, will college sports follow that path. I could actually see it in football. You get a couple GMs who build monster rosters within their budget every year, and some university may hand them a certain amount of independent control and tell the coach to just coach.
 

I think basketball will likely remain as it is now. Coach is in charge. 

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31 minutes ago, str8baller said:

As Josh pointed out, it was Parcells. But the same era and same sentiment. Those guys eventually got surpassed by teams with competent GM/Coach arrangements where the GM was left to do his job more independently.  
 

The question is, will college sports follow that path. I could actually see it in football. You get a couple GMs who build monster rosters within their budget every year, and some university may hand them a certain amount of independent control and tell the coach to just coach.
 

I think basketball will likely remain as it is now. Coach is in charge. 

A traditional professional GM has a lot more business to conduct during the season and little fundraising. I think we're all getting caught up in the title with our preconceived ideas of what a sports team GM is. It's less about title and more about the different role and responsibilities a college GM would have. Director of recruiting, general manager, director of basketball personnel, whatever. What is the role and responsibilities?
 

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2 hours ago, str8baller said:

As Josh pointed out, it was Parcells. But the same era and same sentiment. Those guys eventually got surpassed by teams with competent GM/Coach arrangements where the GM was left to do his job more independently.  
 

The question is, will college sports follow that path. I could actually see it in football. You get a couple GMs who build monster rosters within their budget every year, and some university may hand them a certain amount of independent control and tell the coach to just coach.
 

I think basketball will likely remain as it is now. Coach is in charge. 

Yeah, I had Parcells first, but switched to JJ cause he was who I remember making the change from college to pro during that era.  

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4 hours ago, PartyintheVillas said:

A traditional professional GM has a lot more business to conduct during the season and little fundraising. I think we're all getting caught up in the title with our preconceived ideas of what a sports team GM is. It's less about title and more about the different role and responsibilities a college GM would have. Director of recruiting, general manager, director of basketball personnel, whatever. What is the role and responsibilities?
 

Yea…NBA GMs have to deal with their byzantine salary cap. College ones will have to renegotiate everything every year. Deal with recruiting and transfers. With so many moving pieces in football I can see it being the sport most likely to adopt its pro football counterparts role—and it seems Luck has—whereas basketball stays coach dominated.

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On 3/24/2025 at 10:22 AM, go iu bb said:

I agree, Rosemond could be a HC. Someone posted close to the end of the season IU's record when each of the assistants had the scout. His was by far the best record. He also has a lot of recruiting connections in the south east and we were successful in getting some of them.

Walsh seems to be a decent recruiter. His name was brought up by a lot of recruits we had a chance with and a few we landed. He could help someone.

Hunter seems to be over rated. He was supposed to be this great recruiter but has been ok at best. An assistant under 2 losing coaching staffs that spanned 8 years. Maybe a low major would take a chance on him as a HC but I don't know with that recent resume.

Rosemond - I hope Mike White has already called him? 

Walsh - Was done a disservice being promoted to the role of 3rd assistant and given the tri-state territory as his first gig. On his watch, he lost McNeeley, Mullins and Moreno. We all know it wasn't his fault. Ohio State seems likely. 

Hunter - He got his reputation years ago and had a track record in the NE working with bigs. The string of bigs he's associated with at Georgetown is impressive. He'll get a good gig. 

Cheaney - Doesn't want to be a bench coach. The recruiting and time away isn't in his plans. I'm not sure about Hulls. 

I anticipate an impressive staff that works as a unit and quickly set an identity. 

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On 3/22/2025 at 2:18 PM, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Saw Galan post thoughts. Staff possibly being Barnett, Preston Murphy, Drew Adams, and Norton so far.

That's a good one.