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19 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

We didn’t even know these guys names two weeks ago lol it’s not the end of the world 

True.  I guess it’s human nature to (i) get anchored to the idea, and (ii) then want what we cannot have.

I don’t really care as long as it’s not impacting recruiting.  I was hoping we might get some assistants on board who bring a player or two.  Still could happen just hasn’t yet and it may not matter I don’t know.

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2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Would have liked to have everyone announced today. Maybe later in the day. Hopefully we don’t get too far past this week without a full staff. 

Yeah my patience is wearing thin but there isn’t even any hints or leaks so makes me think it isn’t really close 

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23 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

Yeah my patience is wearing thin but there isn’t even any hints or leaks so makes me think it isn’t really close 

I have zero patience, I am a petulant man child. Lol. Not reading much into the lack of hints or leaks personally… IMO we’re unlikely to have much of that with DDV being brand new to Bloomington / IU.

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1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

All four of those are, to varying degrees, promotions. Of conference, of resources, and/or of the basketball focus of the schools..

Wasn't that long ago that Musselman left Arkansas for USC.

I wouldn't say that Maryland was that big of an upgrade for Buzz Williams.  A&M has money.  Might not be a basketball centric school, but Maryland hasn't had that much in terms of resources -- which is why Willard left (he was also left off the list of P5 transfers -- Maryland to Villanova).

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2 hours ago, go iu bb said:

You think all that is needed to tell if he's going to be successful or not is the first 1/3 of his first season? lmao

Funny.  There were guys on here saying Woodson wasn't going to be successful before he even got the keys to his office.  

Yes, I'll double down.  We'll know by Jan. 2026 if the program is going in the right direction.  If he looks as clueless as Archie/Woodson, then we know trouble is ahead.  If he looks like a real dude, then we know good things are coming.   

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5 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Funny.  There were guys on here saying Woodson wasn't going to be successful before he even got the keys to his office.  

Yes, I'll double down.  We'll know by Jan. 2026 if the program is going in the right direction.  If he looks as clueless and Archie/Woodson, then we know trouble is ahead.  If he looks like a real dude, then we know good things are coming.   

Well, the big differences between Woodson are DeVries are obvious.

Woodson is a d!ck, DeVries is not.

Woodson had no clue, DeVries has resurrected two programs.

Woodson wanted the title, DeVries wanted the job.

Woodson was a lazy egomaniac, DeVries appears to be a rational human being.

Woodson was a nepotistic hire, DeVries was hired based on his history and his experience.

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1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

All four of those are, to varying degrees, promotions. Of conference, of resources, and/or of the basketball focus of the schools..

That is the basic point that everyone agrees on but a select few posters.  
 

Not everyone wants a promotion or new title or the spotlight. But IU and other schools have proven that the big names with money have the ability to pull guys out of other P5 jobs.  
 

As far as this thread goes, I really don’t care who CDD brings in, mostly because I know little about these guys. This is one area where the coach should get whoever he wants to spend long hours with and not worry about optics or fans. Go hire a bunch of D3 or HS coaches if he thinks they’ll help him win. 

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1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Well, the big differences between Woodson are DeVries are obvious.

Woodson is a d!ck, DeVries is not.

Woodson had no clue, DeVries has resurrected two programs.

Woodson wanted the title, DeVries wanted the job.

Woodson was a lazy egomaniac, DeVries appears to be a rational human being.

Woodson was a nepotistic hire, DeVries was hired based on his history and his experience.

So the arrow is already pointed UP.  :)  

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https://247sports.com/college/indiana/article/indiana-basketball-ranked-third-most-valuable-college-basketball-program-248472294/

I think DD is a good coach. I do believe that we are to a point as a fanbase that if he is able to replicate Creans accomplishments year 4 forward, we'll accept that. 

There are a lot of Wilkersons out there. Some even have multiple years left. 

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3 hours ago, go iu bb said:

So, @Scotty R, if coaches don't want to leave P5 schools for other P5 schools, please explain these moves so far just this year:

Darian DeVries: West Virginia (B12) -> Indiana (B1G) 

Drew Adams: Cincinnati (B12) -> Indiana (B1G)

Buzz Williams: Texas A&M (SEC) -> Maryland (B1G)

Sean Miller: Xavier (Big East) -> Texas (SEC)

As for Devries it was a huge step up from a power power conference team. I said the only power conference coaches that we could get is like Brownell who is at a lower power conference program.

Adams huge step up and probably money

Buzz Williams on known to leave every 6 years and that is his philosophy on coaching. He wants to get out before they run you out.

Sean Miller same as Devries

For the most part what I was saying is that coaches don't make lateral moves and we weren't getting the elite power conference coaches.

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2 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

I have zero patience, I am a petulant man child. Lol. Not reading much into the lack of hints or leaks personally… IMO we’re unlikely to have much of that with DDV being brand new to Bloomington / IU.

That is a good thing because everyone wants to be the first to report these transactions. That is why I wish some of the guys on here wouldn't come on here and report things like they are a done deal. It just gets the fan base excited and when it doesn't happen then they get frustrated. Nothing is a fine deal until it is signed and announced. Heck there are times the contract has been signed and announced and something happens to change things.

 

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1 hour ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Wasn't that long ago that Musselman left Arkansas for USC.

I wouldn't say that Maryland was that big of an upgrade for Buzz Williams.  A&M has money.  Might not be a basketball centric school, but Maryland hasn't had that much in terms of resources -- which is why Willard left (he was also left off the list of P5 transfers -- Maryland to Villanova).

Buzz Williams is just a strange guy who wants to leave every 6 or so years.

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Well applying my iu logic from experience. No news is usually better than the news we're soon to receive. Probably going to hire a bunch of 6th option duds

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1 hour ago, Scotty R said:

As for Devries it was a huge step up from a power power conference team. I said the only power conference coaches that we could get is like Brownell who is at a lower power conference program.

Adams huge step up and probably money

Buzz Williams on known to leave every 6 years and that is his philosophy on coaching. He wants to get out before they run you out.

Sean Miller same as Devries

For the most part what I was saying is that coaches don't make lateral moves and we weren't getting the elite power conference coaches.

So, you believe that West Virginia is a huge step up to Indiana, but Texas Tech to Indiana is a step down or lateral?

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2 hours ago, Scotty R said:

As for Devries it was a huge step up from a power power conference team. I said the only power conference coaches that we could get is like Brownell who is at a lower power conference program.

Adams huge step up and probably money

Buzz Williams on known to leave every 6 years and that is his philosophy on coaching. He wants to get out before they run you out.

Sean Miller same as Devries

For the most part what I was saying is that coaches don't make lateral moves and we weren't getting the elite power conference coaches.

Texas Tech is elite?

Is that why they had to up their assistant's pay in order to keep him from going to lowly Indiana?

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Does anyone know if Iowa or Minnesota have their staffs filled yet? I could look it up but I’m kind of on the lazy side. That would tell me if we’re on pace or behind. 

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