AH1971 Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 Just now, Golfman25 said: make shots or score? There is a difference. I wasn’t aware there was an alternate way of scoring without making shots. When did this new concept come into play? thebigweave 1 Quote
Deserthoozier Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 36 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said: Gotta get a cap in play in the future and regulation applicable across D1. This unregulated wild west will kill mid-majors fast. Sure I’m glad IU has NIL money but man this is bad overall for the college game and needs fixing soon. Cant say I have the answers but hope we see progress in the right direction soon Putting a cap in place would just revert back to teams that will/have aggressively cheated in the past to find ways around the new ‘rule’ - and pay over it, under the table. Not sure about your faith in the NCAA’s ability to enforce rules equitably, but mine is less than zero! The wild west is liberating to programs like IU…who have major fan bases and financial supporters—but didn’t have admins willing to do things under the table like most of the elite teams over the past 30 yrs. Wild West (free market) has at least provided us with an opportunity to swim in the same pool with some recruits, and maybe even be competitive. FYI .. it was never the drop ceilings! I get that free market ruins the purity of the game, wrecks continuity, potentially crushes mid-major long term competitiveness…but this is big business now, not idealistic amateurism. That still exists…just in non-revenue college sports! thebigweave, Hardwood83, AZ Hoosier and 2 others 5 Quote
hoosierbannerd Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 Just now, Trish said: Who is committing today? I'm commiting to getting fresh mulch in my flowerbeds... rcbowla 1 Quote
Trish Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, hoosierbannerd said: I'm commiting to getting fresh mulch in my flowerbeds... Hire someone to do that! It’s Masters Sunday! choosierred1 and IH8PU 2 Quote
Golfman25 Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, AH1971 said: I wasn’t aware there was an alternate way of scoring without making shots. When did this new concept come into play? Really, you don't know the difference. TJD was a scorer, who couldn't make a shot to save his life. Edey too. Pretty much, everything was under the basket. Quote
AH1971 Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 Just now, Golfman25 said: Really, you don't know the difference. TJD was a scorer, who couldn't make a shot to save his life. Edey too. Pretty much, everything was under the basket. Rice scored like Edey or TJD last year? Got it. Shot making isn’t limited to making 3 pointers, as hard as that is to believe for some. Quote
Golfman25 Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 8 minutes ago, Deserthoozier said: Putting a cap in place would just revert back to teams that will/have aggressively cheated in the past to find ways around the new ‘rule’ - and pay over it, under the table. Not sure about your faith in the NCAA’s ability to enforce rules equitably, but mine is less than zero! The wild west is liberating to programs like IU…who have major fan bases and financial supporters—but didn’t have admins willing to do things under the table like most of the elite teams over the past 30 yrs. Wild West (free market) has at least provided us with an opportunity to swim in the same pool with some recruits, and maybe even be competitive. FYI .. it was never the drop ceilings! I get that free market ruins the purity of the game, wrecks continuity, potentially crushes mid-major long term competitiveness…but this is big business now, not idealistic amateurism. That still exists…just in non-revenue college sports! End the pro draft rules. Let the high school kids go directly to the NBA. Home Jersey, Stuhoo, Class of '66 Old Fart and 1 other 4 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 8 minutes ago, Deserthoozier said: Putting a cap in place would just revert back to teams that will/have aggressively cheated in the past to find ways around the new ‘rule’ - and pay over it, under the table. Not sure about your faith in the NCAA’s ability to enforce rules equitably, but mine is less than zero! The wild west is liberating to programs like IU…who have major fan bases and financial supporters—but didn’t have admins willing to do things under the table like most of the elite teams over the past 30 yrs. Wild West (free market) has at least provided us with an opportunity to swim in the same pool with some recruits, and maybe even be competitive. FYI .. it was never the drop ceilings! I get that free market ruins the purity of the game, wrecks continuity, potentially crushes mid-major long term competitiveness…but this is big business now, not idealistic amateurism. That still exists…just in non-revenue college sports! College sports as they currently exist are bastardized versions of professional sports. They’re professional sports without salary caps and without contracts. Players can come and go as they please, playing for whoever they want in a given season. It’s a terrible setup and needs to be corralled big time. cthomas, Class of '66 Old Fart, Geometry Hoosier and 1 other 4 Quote
Golfman25 Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, AH1971 said: Rice scored like Edey or TJD last year? Got it. WTF you talking about? You don't know what shotmaking is vs scoring. Whatever. His stats speak for themselves. He's light on the 3 point %, period. Maybe he makes that "jump." Or gets over the hump. Quote
AH1971 Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 5 minutes ago, Golfman25 said: WTF you talking about? You don't know what shotmaking is vs scoring. Whatever. His stats speak for themselves. He's light on the 3 point %, period. Maybe he makes that "jump." Or gets over the hump. He wasn’t a great 3 point shooter by %, that’s been discussed ad nauseam. He could still shoot off the bounce, pull up in PnR, and get to the hole and finish. He shot over 80% from the line. Those are all shot making qualities. IU has had one shot making guard in 3 years whose first year stats rival Rice. Quote
Magisterium Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 38 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: A cryptic tweet - two guards? Rice and Kanaan? Rice and Hickman? Kanaan and Hickman? My bet is he’s insinuating Rice and Hickman with Hick visiting today. we shall see! Is Howard still on staff? Thought I read somewhere that he was heading to Ann Arbor to work for Dusty May. Quote
Feathery Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: College sports as they currently exist are bastardized versions of professional sports. They’re professional sports without salary caps and without contracts. Players can come and go as they please, playing for whoever they want in a given season. It’s a terrible setup and needs to be corralled big time. Sounds like the workplace to me. only way to solve this is to make them employees and have collective bargaining with the players union, which needs to form. Then they will have revenue share from the tv contracts. This has been discussed as a reason for conference expansion for awhile. The schools know they will have to share revenue eventually and are getting front of it so when they do share they will still have the 50-60 mil per school they had before. Going to be a few years yet but it will get sorted. Home Jersey 1 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 16 minutes ago, AH1971 said: I wasn’t aware there was an alternate way of scoring without making shots. When did this new concept come into play? Drivers/slashers/free throws are very different than 3 point shooting. The later is what we have been missing Golfman25 1 Quote
dwtaylor1055 Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, Magisterium said: Is Howard still on staff? Thought I read somewhere that he was heading to Ann Arbor to work for Dusty May. Believe he is still IU Quote
Golfman25 Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, AH1971 said: He wasn’t a great 3 point shooter by %, that’s been discussed ad nauseam. He could still shoot off the bounce, pull up in PnR, and get to the hole and finish. He shot over 80% from the line. Those are all shot making qualities. IU has had one shot making guard in 3 years whose first year stats rival Rice. Who said they did? Quote
AH1971 Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 1 minute ago, MikeRoberts said: Drivers/slashers/free throws are very different than 3 point shooting. The later is what we have been missing Guards who can score and create is what we’ve been missing lol. Quote
AH1971 Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 1 minute ago, Golfman25 said: Who said they did? Who said what did? Quote
MikeRoberts Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 6 minutes ago, AH1971 said: Guards who can score and create is what we’ve been missing lol. Lol, X and Trey could score and create. They weren’t much of a threat from behind the arc. A combo of Reneau and Ballo under the basket is a death sentence if we don’t have knock down 3 point shooters Adillac 1 Quote
AH1971 Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 1 minute ago, MikeRoberts said: Lol, X and Trey could score and create. They weren’t much of a threat from behind the arc. A combo of Reneau and Ballo under the basket is a death sentence if we don’t have knock down 3 point shooters The $100 bet I extended to you yesterday is still on the table. Quote
dwtaylor1055 Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 Amir Williams cancelled his Florida visit - still visiting st Joe, creighton, IU and Kentucky all by next Monday. thebigweave 1 Quote
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