Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Silat Player 271]

12 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

He was a Freshman, I would expect his numbers would increase his sophomore year.  I could see his assists go up to at least 4 and his turnovers decrease to 2 while shooting at least 32% or higher from 3.  Would those numbers be satisfactory for a sophomore point guard?  I’m not say this is going to happen but most freshman players improve some during their sophomore year.

I could see us landing Rice, Carlyle, Hickman and either Ballo/Payne.

 

I guess a fair question to ask would be, "Will his numbers improve the 'typical' amount for a Sophomore when changing from one team to another?"

Sure. You typically see the most growth in most players from Frosh to Soph years due to them getting used to the speed of the college game, strength of the players, hitting the weight room themselves, etc... But, also part of that is also getting acclimated to the off/def system of the college team that they're on. 

Changing teams/coaches might affect that. I'm not sure that a Soph Rice should be expected to see such a large jump in his shooting percentage, especially early in the season. 

Need to hold back some of that sweet sweet money for more shooters...

[dwtaylor1055 1,392]

Did we just get a commitment before an actual visit?

[realTomCrean 1,482]

9 minutes ago, rcbowla said:

More like struck a massive eyebrow raise and inquires of what in the actual hell he was talking about. There's no crow in the vicinity that need be eaten at this point.

Sir appreciate the commentary but as @Alford Bailey and @Chris007 have said this is the Portal w/ IU interest thread. It is not the analyze realTomCrean thread. I suggest you move forums with your reply. 

[Chris007 43,367]

1 minute ago, Silat Player said:

I guess a fair question to ask would be, "Will his numbers improve the 'typical' amount for a Sophomore when changing from one team to another?"

Sure. You typically see the most growth in most players from Frosh to Soph years due to them getting used to the speed of the college game, strength of the players, hitting the weight room themselves, etc... But, also part of that is also getting acclimated to the off/def system of the college team that they're on. 

Changing teams/coaches might affect that. I'm not sure that a Soph Rice should be expected to see such a large jump in his shooting percentage, especially early in the season. 

Need to hold back some of that sweet sweet money for more shooters...

Also would add how will his numbers change when changing conferences. I don't follow the Pac-12 much but I tend to believe the defense is a little better in the BT

[Silat Player 271]

Just now, Chris007 said:

Also would add how will his numbers change when changing conferences. I don't follow the Pac-12 much but I tend to believe the defense is a little better in the BT

 

Just now, Chris007 said:

Also would add how will his numbers change when changing conferences. I don't follow the Pac-12 much but I tend to believe the defense is a little better in the BT

The play is definitely more rugged in the B1G. No question about that.

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2 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

Sir appreciate the commentary but as @Alford Bailey and @Chris007 have said this is the Portal w/ IU interest thread. It is not the analyze realTomCrean thread. I suggest you move forums with your reply. 

I will add that you got special treatment by getting the thread off-topic, not having your post deleted, and not having a mod quote you to tell you that you were in the wrong thread. So you should thank all mods. Not sure you could walk a day in my shoes. 

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1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Also would add how will his numbers change when changing conferences. I don't follow the Pac-12 much but I tend to believe the defense is a little better in the BT

That is a good point but I think you can extrapolate a little better scoring output as well. Washington St was 322nd in tempo last year. 15 ppg in that system for a freshman says a lot. 

[IUFAN1976 2,677]

18 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

We're all just speculating, doesn't cost anything. I'm not that excited about Rice & Carlyle, but others seem to be. I will be a little surprised if IU signs 3 incoming guards though. That would be 7 on the roster (3 new, Galloway, Cupps, Newton & Leal.) Could be a good thing though, depending who they are. 

Ballo is definitely a presence....but man his game is ugly and that FT shooting will give me an ulcer. 

Well start stocking up on these, Tums, Alka-Seltzer, Milk of Magnesia, Maalox, Mylanta, and Rolaids, because you might need them when we sign Ballo, lol

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7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Also would add how will his numbers change when changing conferences. I don't follow the Pac-12 much but I tend to believe the defense is a little better in the BT

If you mean, B1G basketball is more boring and results in less points = a little better defense,  then I agree... 

I guess all in all... I hate having to watch B1G basketball. 

[IUFAN1976 2,677]

5 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

 

The play is definitely more rugged in the B1G. No question about that.

Hopefully that changes soon and offenses are a little more free flowing, especially with Edey leaving 

[IUFAN1976 2,677]

12 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

Did we just get a commitment before an actual visit?

Not yet 

[cleeter 2,098]

A person on Trilly discord, who has been spot on in the past, was willing to say that Rice will be a Hoosier.

Also already been in communication with another prospect also. But not saying who that is.

Not my words, but wanting to pass along


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18 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

Hope there is a commitment this weekend. He is visiting IU. DO NOT let him leave without one. Would be a very nice start. 

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26 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I will add that you got special treatment by getting the thread off-topic, not having your post deleted, and not having a mod quote you to tell you that you were in the wrong thread. So you should thank all mods. Not sure you could walk a day in my shoes. 

All starkness aside I do appreciate the mods and BtownBanners members

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1 hour ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

Rice put up very similar stats to JHS in his only year at IU(don't recall where I saw the side by side comparison of the two kids).  Rice was worse for his 3pt shooting though between the two.  If Rice puts up the same numbers or slightly better and ups his 3pt % to say 35%ish it is fair to say he may only be in Indiana for one year depending how the season go.  

So not only are we going to land him but now he's going to have such a great year that he'll go pro after 1 year at IU? Man, the off season hype is always something amazing to watch.

[IUFAN1976 2,677]

ITH reports that Rice is visiting this weekend:

https://www.insidethehall.com/2024/04/11/report-washington-state-transfer-myles-rice-planning-iu-visit-this-weekend/

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The sniping back and forth and complaining about mods and what is or is not on topic looks a whole like the Peegs boards ha. Regardless, some mostly rambling thoughts on potential roster construction as we see IU's targets emerge and visits scheduled...

-At guard, IU is very close to securing a commitment from Myles Rice. Appears we just need to not screw up the visit this weekend. Rice is a very good first domino to fall. He has a great story (cancer survivor), is a sophomore by year but is old by age so you'd hope he can be a leader with maturity, very good at getting to the basket, athletic, his FT% suggests his three-point shooting could improve quite a bit next season, plus-defender with good size. 

-IU is favored for Kanaan Carlyle. He and Rice are apparently quite tight. High potential with multiple years of eligibility. Not a good perimeter shooter but I do think he helps IU quite a bit. 

-If we succeed and added Rice and Carlyle, that's a big upgrade in the background and then we can swing big to hopefully land Ryan Conwell. I would imagine that would remove Connor Hickman. Heck, landing Rice and Carlyle might remove Hickman anyway. Conwell is a better player but Hickman would be a nice addition as well. The one thing missing from that backcourt (if adding Rice and Carlyle) is a proven knockdown shooter but the ability to penetrate and get downhill with the ball and have some dynamism from our backcourt is a major upgrade from what we had in 2023-2024.

-That brings us to the frontcourt. Nothing is unanimous but nearly all of us want to see IU play more time with one big instead of two. As much as I want to see that for long stretches, it does seem grounded in reality. Mike Woodson told everyone, he believes what IU did systematically on offense worked, we just needed better shooters/guards to execute it. So, with that as a near pre-requisite...I think Oumar Ballo is the best option on the board at center. I know IU's ceiling with him isn't particularly sky-high but he sure does raise the floor (in my opinion). Advanced analytics are not everything but his Box Score Plus/Minus (BPM) is 8.1...the exact same as Ware's was last season. He's a monster physically, an elite rebounder and an above-average rebounder (including a really good offensive rebounder). He's also very good in the lob game on pick and rolls, something that could be really effective with Myles Rice and some with Trey Galloway (don't know about Carlyle with that as Stanford didn't really try that). Ballo is not as good of a passer out of post sets as Amari Williams is but he's better at basically everything else than Williams is (same thing for Payne). The big red flag is FT shooting for Ballo. Ideally, IU lands Ballo and somehow convinces Ben Humrichous to play 20-25 minutes. They could do lineups with Malik-Ballo, Malik-Humrichous, Humrichous-Ballo, Mgbako-Ballo, etc...Lord knows Malik gets in enough foul trouble that there would still be minutes available. Selling Humrichous on that will not be easy though. 

-If IU added Carlyle/Rice/Conwell, the perimeter defense would be SOOOO much better than it was last season. Whew, that's a lot of rambling and it's likely all for naught anyway as the end result will probably look much different than the expectations anyway. Go Hoosiers.

Edited April 11 by HoosierHuddle

[dwtaylor1055 1,392]

8 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

So not only are we going to land him but now he's going to have such a great year that he'll go pro after 1 year at IU? Man, the off season hype is always something amazing to watch.

Better call JHS and tell him he shouldn’t have entered the draft when he was a top 20 pick all along with the stats he produced. 
 

I never said Rice was/is a lock to leave IU after one year, could I see it if he improves with similar or better stats and a big jump in 3pt %? sure why not, similar stats netted JhS a top 20 pick.  

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8 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

So not only are we going to land him but now he's going to have such a great year that he'll go pro after 1 year at IU? Man, the off season hype is always something amazing to watch.

I would for sure think a marginal improved year from Rice and he goes pro. 

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1 minute ago, btownqb said:

I would for sure think a marginal improved year from Rice and he goes pro. 

Careful you might get called out with this comment above