Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[NVFalcons1990 386]

2 hours ago, AH1971 said:

I think we're prioritizing 12 guys for 6 spots but have reached out too much more

Realistically, IU needs four transfers. Six is the max they can take. IU needs:

-2 starting guards

-a defensive 5 who can play 25 mpg whether it be starting or coming off the bench

-a shooting guard/wing

-possibly a backup 4/5

We currently have 7 scholarship players, hardly anybody plays an 11 man rotation and absolutely nobody plays 13 guys.

As far as landing two starting guards, I feel confident where we stand with Myles Rice and then between Perkins, Carlyle, Conwell I think there's your second.

I'm confident that we get one of Payne or Williams for your 25 mpg 5.

Hickman and Malone from NAIA fill the 4th and 5th transfer spots. 

Should be noted that guys are still entering the portal in droves. Up to almost 1500 entries with still 23 days left to go.

 

Good breakdown!  Thanks for putting it out there!

[DChoosier 9,303]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

On a good Big Ten team he should be 9th or 10th man. I don't think that is a stretch.

I agree with that as our greatest need now, which is the exact same need we had this time last year, is to upgrade the perimeter. I really like both Gallo and Cupps but ideally they would be our 6th and 9th guys.

 

[AH1971 2,333]

6 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

On a good Big Ten team he should be 9th or 10th man. I don't think that is a stretch.

Agree that he would be a 9th man type player. Those guys typically avg around 10 mpg which is what I said I believed Cupps would play next year.

[NVFalcons1990 386]

2 hours ago, 68Hoosier said:

If you had to put names to each spot what is a homerun offseason.  

 

-2 starting guards (??)

-a defensive 5 who can play 25 mpg whether it be starting or coming off the bench  (Payne or Williams)

-a shooting guard/wing (Would this be Tucker or someone in addition to him)

-possibly a backup 4/5 (??)

Give me Rice at the point, Conwell or Cade Tyson (Belmont 45.4% from 3 and averaged 16.2 ppg) at the 2.

PG - Rice (Portal)

SG - Conwell or Tyson (Portal)

SF - Mgbako and Tucker (5 star recruit)

PF - Reneau

C - Payne and/or Williams (Portal)

Bench: Galloway, Cupps, Leal, Humrichous (portal) and the D-2 player of year

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 88,132]

20 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

So pointing out the mistakes a coach has made in the past and worrying he will make the same mistakes over because we know how stubborn he is is now called bashing? Wow I can only imagine the free passes you give out in life

This is not the thread.  This thread is for discussing IU portal targets not the current roster or former players.  

[NVFalcons1990 386]

55 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Not to be forgotten, Cupps is a coach's kid.  I can see him developing into a more skilled Leal... being able to get other guys in the right place, coach on the floor type. He also came across as a hard nosed guy.

Every team needs a player like Cupps. Someone who other players respect and listen to. Obviously, as a freshman he hadn't earned his stripes yet. I fully believe Gabe will grow into this kind of role, and we'll be happy he's a Hoosier.

I see him as a pesky Aaron Craft type next year thru his senior year

[NVFalcons1990 386]

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

That's on him

He had a child and his kid and family were from the Mizzou area. Wasn’t that the big reason for him leaving IU.  I think that is what they said.

[Chris007 57,144]

1 minute ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

This is not the thread.  This thread is for discussing IU portal targets not the current roster or former players.  

WOW. Here we go again.

I really like the kid from Evansville.

[68Hoosier 1,097]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

WOW. Here we go again.

I really like the kid from Evansville.

I like him too.

 

Can we develop him to play the 4 / 5 sport next year :).

[HoosierHoopster 7,725]

1 hour ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I wasn’t talking about evaluation from a talent standpoint but rather an attitude/chemistry fit — things that don’t necessarily show up on film.  Some players those are knowns, but guys like Tre White who seems to be a talented player who hasn’t seem to make his team better and will be on his team next year is a guy I would want to have some time with before getting him.  Depends on the player.

I would think the staff would take it into account if a player has a history of transfers and whether or not he made his teams better. Don't get me wrong, fit is important, and it's definitely preferable to get a guy in and meet with him, but we are absolutely terrible right now, we just came off a horrendous season, we need to upgrade our talent, and I would think the concerns you have would be included in how a potential portal pickup is evaluated, with or without meeting with him.

[Chris007 57,144]

5 minutes ago, NVFalcons1990 said:

I see him as a pesky Aaron Craft type next year thru his senior year

Aaron Craft is not in the portal and IU is not recruiting him. :-) Just messing with you.

Hopefully we find a PG in the portal who has IU interest who plays like that

[Silat Player 1,197]

10 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

This is not the thread.  This thread is for discussing IU portal targets not the current roster or former players.  

Yikes. You know the coach and program are in trouble when the mods are making the discussion topics very very specific. LOL. 

So talking about the current roster when talking about portal targets and how things fit together is off-limits now (obviously in an effort to deflect criticism of CMW)? 

Double yikes!

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[DChoosier 9,303]

31 minutes ago, IndyHoops said:

Those are NBA level kids. Again…like Tucker, that’s what Woodson was after. And I and not bashing him, just the facts. It’s completely fine to have that strategy with NIL and the portal.

How many Indiana high school kids is he after? Or 3 star kids? Low 4 star kids? Ya know, the kids Painter brings in every year. 

There are now multiple ways to win these days.

UCONN’s three guards crushed PU’s guards.  One of their three guards is a one and done 5* freshman while the other two guards both arrived at UCONN via the portal. All three are projected to be drafted in the 1st or second round.

[AH1971 2,333]

1 minute ago, Silat Player said:

Yikes. You know the coach and program are in trouble when the mods are making the discussion topics very very specific. LOL. 

So talking about the current roster when talking about portal targets and how things fit together is off-limits now (obviously in an effort to deflect criticism of CMW)? 

Double yikes!

There's over a 1,000 page thread dedicated to that sort of topic.

[NVFalcons1990 386]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

WOW. Here we go again.

I really like the kid from Evansville.

Same here……give me any shooters hitting over that 40% mark from 3’s and 80%+ at the line

[Class of '66 Old Fart 88,132]

1 minute ago, Silat Player said:

Yikes. You know the coach and program is in trouble when the mods are making the discussion topics very very specific. LOL. 

So talking about the current roster when talking about portal targets and how things fit together is off-limits now (obviously in an effort to deflect criticism of CMW)? 

Double yikes!

We have a thread with over a 1,000 pages criticizing Woody so deflecting criticism is laughable.  Unfortunately, we have a number of posters who just can't resist piling on him in almost every thread.  Contrary to what you or others may believe, we do have some followers that want the thread content to match the title of the thread.  They're interested in information on portal targets.  

[68Hoosier 1,097]

15 minutes ago, NVFalcons1990 said:

Give me Rice at the point, Conwell or Cade Tyson (Belmont 45.4% from 3 and averaged 16.2 ppg) at the 2.

PG - Rice (Portal)

SG - Conwell or Tyson (Portal)

SF - Mgbako and Tucker (5 star recruit)

PF - Reneau

C - Payne and/or Williams (Portal)

Bench: Galloway, Cupps, Leal, Humrichous (portal) and the D-2 player of year

 

If i am following your list, this would leave us with two additional sports open.  I think we should fill those as well becuase of potential injury and not panning out.  For me I would still look at Walker, and try to get both of Payne and Williams to fill all the open spots.  

[Chris007 57,144]

7 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

Yikes. You know the coach and program are in trouble when the mods are making the discussion topics very very specific. LOL. 

So talking about the current roster when talking about portal targets and how things fit together is off-limits now (obviously in an effort to deflect criticism of CMW)? 

Double yikes!

Just like the bots on twitter it's happening everywhere. People get their orders.

With all of these visits lined up from guys in the portal with Indiana interest we will be getting commits before we know it. 

I really like the Division 2 kid

[NVFalcons1990 386]

Just now, 68Hoosier said:

If i am following your list, this would leave us with two additional sports open.  I think we should fill those as well becuase of potential injury and not panning out.  For me I would still look at Walker, and try to get both of Payne and Williams to fill all the open spots.  

Totally agree…..we need at least 2 bigs, one to start at the 5 and a backup for Reneau at the 4

[68Hoosier 1,097]

Just now, NVFalcons1990 said:

Totally agree…..we need at least 2 bigs, one to start at the 5 and a backup for Reneau at the 4

and the potential for foul trouble, LOL