Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Golfman25]

56 minutes ago, Demo said:

Next up 

How can this be?  It's dead period, no?  

[Kentuckysucks]

Have no fear.  Darian has this.

 

 

[BtownStrength]

2 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

How can this be?  It's dead period, no?  

No in-person contact or campus visits. Calls and texts still allowed 

[ronzo4IU]

Looks like we’re gonna have to settle for table scraps again

[Muskie plays the four]

32 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Don't let the Howdy Doody look fool you.  He's a killer and he's going to go after a lot of our top targets and get them.  Even if he didn't necessarily need or want them.

Dusty will fight kinda known as a hothead when younger. 

[Stuhoo]

9 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Looks like we’re gonna have to settle for table scraps again

Not true.

But what is true is that far more successful programs like UM, Duke, Arizona, etc get first choice.

[Kentuckysucks]

3 minutes ago, Muskie plays the four said:

Dusty will fight kinda known as a hothead when younger. 

You need that in today's environment.  Nice guys finish last.  It's just true.  You want a killer not a nice family guy.  

[Home Jersey]

5 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Looks like we’re gonna have to settle for table scraps again

Too early to start dooming like this

Do want to see us sign a featured player earlier in the portal than we did last year though

[BtownStrength]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

Too early to start dooming like this

Do want to see us sign a featured player earlier in the portal than we did last year though

Getting Burton signed soon would ease some minds. 

[go iu bb]

5 hours ago, tyappleg said:

I for one, trust David Lee with my life.

He tells you to trust him so you know you can. No one who has said "trust me" has ever turned out to be untrustworthy. 

[ronzo4IU]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Not true.

But what is true is that far more successful programs like UM, Duke, Arizona, etc get first choice.

Ok, we get leftovers..

[tyappleg]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

Too early to start dooming like this

Do want to see us sign a featured player earlier in the portal than we did last year though

Just need Adam Olsen to commit now to really get the doomers going. 

(We do really need to get a top portal guy to commit soon to help get the ball rolling though)

[ronzo4IU]

3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Too early to start dooming like this

Do want to see us sign a featured player earlier in the portal than we did last year though

Maybe our deal makers suck and or we are on a tight budget.  

No reason we can’t get some early momentum with 14 mil at our disposal if that number is even close.  
Can’t afford to let everyone else have their pick when we are Indiana..need to nail down a big one fast..show some Cig swagger.  

Indiana has history and name value even if we haven’t been that good for several thousand years.

[Aaron]

I’m still not convinced Dusty at Michigan=Dusty at IU.

I do think his personality alone and reputation would have gotten us into tourney and possibly make second weekend run. However, it definitely seems IU has devoted its NIL resources to football and does not have as much as we’d like for basketball and Michigan pockets are much deeper. I think May took Sweet 16 money and won a title with it and could probably take bubble money here and be in second weekend. However, the difference between not making the tourney and winning title was not Dusty May here at IU. It was respectability and until Hoosiers’ athletic department has enough money to fully feed both sports, only football will be title contender.

Now with that said, until proven otherwise, I am still not convinced DeVries completely understands roster building despite being a solid tactician. Whether number he has to spend is 12 or 14 million (even if 18-20 is ideal), i am not sure this staff gets you have to be willing to ‘overpay’ and bid 4-5 million for 2 stars and fill in rest once you identify a must have. Once you identify said person, you don’t let someone outbid you even if it means a markup from what was initially planned.

Chris Ballard has made this mistake for yrs with Colts of ‘assigning a value’ to players and losing them when they exceed his price. This is the trap I am afraid this staff is falling into and it leads to a lot of mediocrity. 

Devries is a fine coach and will win at exactly level of talent he gets and builds. The question is not his coaching and style, but if he and his staff (especially Ryan Carr) understands the nuances of roster building and this is the unknown so far that has everyone antsy.

 

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, ronzo4IU said:

Maybe our deal makers suck and or we are on a tight budget.  

Maybe! Totally possible

1 minute ago, ronzo4IU said:

No reason we can’t get some early momentum with 14 mil at our disposal if that number is even close.  
Can’t afford to let everyone else have their pick

Lot of truth in this... Easier said than done, but totally doable. We need early momentum with as much roster turnover as we have. So they should be aggressive with their top targets. 

4 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Can’t afford to let everyone else have their pick when we are Indiana..need to nail down a big one fast..show some Cig swagger.  

Indiana has history and name value even if we haven’t been that good for several thousand years.

Don't think the Indiana history or name value resonates with recruits these days. Sad but true. 

Tough to create swagger in the offseason when you didn't make the tournament and are replacing the entire roster without the benefit of the doubt of being a new coach in his first year. Cig swagger is a long ways away.

Other schools can have their pick much more easily than Indiana can today. We've gotta be smarter than them about prioritization and evaluation. 

[Kentuckysucks]

I do think you need to spend $8-9M, land 2 stars like Burton and Bigunda and moneyball the rest of the roster with mid majors.  Clearly DeVries disagrees.

[Uspshoosier]

 

[Jeff Flabjohns]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Well someone has to take our money, wonder who we will pivot to

The finest the SoCon and MEAC have to offer! 

[RaceToTheTop]

5 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

I do think you need to spend $8-9M, land 2 stars like Burton and Bigunda and moneyball the rest of the roster with mid majors.  Clearly DeVries disagrees.

It’s not that cut and dry.  

[Home Jersey]

9 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

I do think you need to spend $8-9M, land 2 stars like Burton and Bigunda and moneyball the rest of the roster with mid majors.  Clearly DeVries disagrees.

It's interesting with how quickly the CBB landscape is changing.

Gotta be forward thinking to gap up ahead of the curve. 

I'm curious about roster construction this go round because it has a ton of implications beyond the obvious.

• What did DDV learn after a year in the B10, style of play, etc. 
• What did he learn after the last portal process
• How effectively has he adjusted to IU with a year under his belt

This is very premature, but what I'm most interested in... what does Ryan Carr observe about the staff's process / way of doing things? In this landscape, some have argued that big money programs could have a GM as their face, not a Head Coach.

Final decisions lay with the staff... But may Carr have the influence with Dolson to share some, ahem, "notes" for next year? And if feedback isn't implemented after Y3, could Carr become the new face of IUBB and have input on the next hire? 

Like I said... very premature and hopefully unnecessary train of thought because DDV delivers in Y2... but the world of CBB is changing quickly and IU can't just try to keep up, they have to try and get ahead. Gotta think outside the box.