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26 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Every situation is different, but absent a Kenny Payne style meltdown or a complete player revolt some sane minds have been consistently saying that March will be the end (other sane minds have disagreed). I suppose consecutive 25+ point losses could still prompt that implosive change and given the road ahead that’s possible but not likely.

After the Iowa and Illinois games a complete meltdown looked imminently possible but we followed that debacle with a road win and two straight competitive losses. So for now, on we go to the end of the season before Woody’s departure is official.

Yeah, but Friday's coming... followed closely by Tuesday...

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First, you guys are hilarious. Reading the pages I missed on a long travel day is great.  I guess I missed the chance to drop the bomb that coaches were informed yesterday that Woody is being ret

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The “compromise” by Dolson to let this go down this way saved us some good cash on the buyout. Lot of litigation today. Make no mistake about it, this was not Woody’s decision to retire. 

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20 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

True. But while “competitive losses” are a shitty standard, that’s the standard for avoiding mid-season replacement, with all the bad PR and hyper-drama that would accompany it. 

Does anything change after the Friday/Tuesday double crap fest?

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3 hours ago, RoadRage said:

Today Dakich spent the first hour of his show ranting about how much IU is paying assistants and others connected to the program. Hunter and Rosemond are making $500K each and Randy Wittman is making $130K as a consultant. DD says it is money laundering! He also doubled down on Ballo telling Woody to F off and he might be reading this forum because he said people on message boards saying he doesn't know what he is talking about are full of it!

Dan Dakich can F off. And he isn't reading this forum.  EVERY Indiana forum knows he doesn't know what he's talking about.

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32 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

Lou Watson quit at the end of the season, while Knight wasn’t fired during the season, nor was Davis, nor Dakich, nor Crean, nor Miller. Sampson was. In football, Pont, Corso, Cameron, DiNardo, Lynch, Wilson and Allen were all at the end of the season. Wyche left for the Bengals, Mal was let go the week before the season ended.

Nonsense. Historically inaccurate  that only can exist on the back of semantics.   
 

Just because I like to be entertained I would love to hear you and scottR and AH explain to me how Sampsons resignation was a “firing” but  Davis’ wasn’t and was a true “resignation.”  
 

Oh I remember now…Davis wanted to let his adoring fans at IU down easy as he climbed the coaching ranks to take on the All Time Great Blazers of UAB!!!  Thanks for the early notice, Mike! 
 

Whatever happened to that Davis character? The way he left here successfully, clearly using the IU job as a stepping stone, he’s gotta be coaching the Lakers by now. Maybe even the Olympic team! 

 

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2 hours ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Not sure I understand the comparison. 

What did TKR do during his FR year? and he was even of age. Jack Benter is a name to remember that RSing now for Purdue. 

TKR never left a 29-6 Big Ten champion Purdue's rotation.  Bryson Tucker has and it's a team has Anthony.Leal. in the rotation.

Your thought that Bryson Tucker 'should be redshirting' is absurd.  No one is redshirting' McDonald's AA's unless there is just that much immense talent above them.

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I think KathywithaC is correct that he isn’t getting fired mid season, for now. I think a lot of fans are projecting a tire fire because of the games coming up. But they aren’t losses yet. Lose the next 4-5 games and then things might change quickly. But as of now he still has a path to a tournament birth. IU won’t fire a coach on this position. Let Woodson fail on his own terms. No need to rush a firing until it’s good enough for the big boosters. Their money is needed for future recruiting for both football and basketball. 

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4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

TKR never left a 29-6 Big Ten champion Purdue's rotation.  Bryson Tucker has and it's a team has Anthony.Leal. in the rotation.

Your thought that Bryson Tucker 'should be redshirting' is absurd.  No one is redshirting' McDonald's AA's unless there is just that much immense talent above them.

No. TKRs FR year he RS. He was ranked 44th in his class... 

Sorry my opinion is "let's do what's best for the kid"

Bryson should be kept and developed. There's a lot there to work with. 

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@KathywithaC - Is the athletic department working with the men's basketball program on how to handle negative fan reactions, like chants of "Fire Wiodson"? 

Surely the powers that be are aware of the fan displeasure, how it's manifesting itself, and the negative impact it has on the program.

I'm not surprised to learn a change will not be made during the season, and based on how quickly things move after the season one must surmise that the athletic department, the president, board, donors and other stakeholders are already in conversations about how to move forward in March. 

Would you say this is accurate? Nothing official being done, but conversations among this group and research being conducted now to move quickly when it's time to be official.

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2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

No. TKRs FR year he RS. He was ranked 44th in his class... 

Sorry my opinion is "let's do what's best for the kid"

Bryson should be kept and developed. There's a lot there to work with. 

You can't just 'keep' a player in today's day where they can freely transfer.

Your opinion of 'let's do what's best for the kid' doesn't mean the kid or the parent agrees with that.  And the truth is that I do not think what is best for Bryson Tucker is for him to redshirt, particularly if his plans are not to play college basketball for four years.  If we wanted what was best for the kid, then I would have told him to go somewhere else where he could have received actual coaching.  What exactly would a redshirt have done for him this year when he would have been learning under the same non-coaching?

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2 minutes ago, Asha’man said:

I think KathywithaC is correct that he isn’t getting fired mid season, for now. I think a lot of fans are projecting a tire fire because of the games coming up. But they aren’t losses yet. Lose the next 4-5 games and then things might change quickly. But as of now he still has a path to a tournament birth. IU won’t fire a coach on this position. Let Woodson fail on his own terms. No need to rush a firing until it’s good enough for the big boosters. Their money is needed for future recruiting for both football and basketball. 

at this point it's not JUST about the losses.....the team is a cancer. Before you come at me with "were you there?" comments. No I wasn't. But I trust  the info I've heard on this board and outside this board that tells me this program is imploding on itself and it starts at the top.  If it were just about the losses, sure, let it play out.  The issue goes deeper than that and it's coming to a head with fans booing their team.  You can argue if that's petty or not but it's happening....

It's not just about losses anymore, it's about removing the issue, monitoring the interim to ensure that crap isn't happening any longer and start fixing the culture of IU Basketball.  

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