They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Chris007]

Just now, 68Hoosier said:

I like the thought of some of the players because that is all we have to be happy about right now. I wouldn't say I'm giddy over Woodson though.  We have to make the best of the cards we are delt and that is what we have for now.  If I could personally discard some of the cards and change my hand I would - Fire Woodson :)...   

It's just absolutely ridiculous that some people get reminded what the name of the thread is and others don't. Do it for everyone or no one at all. We should all be able to discuss that some guys who we are recruiting in the portal might not make us feel warm and fuzzy because of past seasons. 

[68Hoosier]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

It's just absolutely ridiculous that some people get reminded what the name of the thread is and others don't. Do it for everyone or no one at all. We should all be able to discuss that some guys who we are recruiting in the portal might not make us feel warm and fuzzy because of past seasons. 

Agreed...

[IUCrazy2]

23 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

It's just absolutely ridiculous that some people get reminded what the name of the thread is and others don't. Do it for everyone or no one at all. We should all be able to discuss that some guys who we are recruiting in the portal might not make us feel warm and fuzzy because of past seasons. 

Nothing matters until November.  We are going to get players in the portal.  We have gotten good guys in the past.  I think we will get Rice and Conwell and a decent 5 then we will fill in role players from there.

You will have a team capable of doing some things in the Big Ten.  We will hear all summer about how these guys are the next coming.  Last year's team was touted as more talented than the JHS/TJD team.  We literally do this every year and have been doing it most years since Bob Knight was fired.  We are the "Help is on the way" program.

I am not buying the hype this summer.  I would encourage everyone else to stay grounded as well.  Our fanbase looks stupid every year when we talk all summer about how we are going to do this and that and these players are oh so much more talented than what this or that other program has and then we get our butts handed to us during the year.  Anyone predicting a record should take into account TJD's last season.  I'll be shocked if that isn't our ceiling.

[Hornsby]

Nothing matters until November.  We are going to get players in the portal.  We have gotten good guys in the past.  I think we will get Rice and Conwell and a decent 5 then we will fill in role players from there.
You will have a team capable of doing some things in the Big Ten.  We will hear all summer about how these guys are the next coming.  Last year's team was touted as more talented than the JHS/TJD team.  We literally do this every year and have been doing it most years since Bob Knight was fired.  We are the "Help is on the way" program.
I am not buying the hype this summer.  I would encourage everyone else to stay grounded as well.  Our fanbase looks stupid every year when we talk all summer about how we are going to do this and that and these players are oh so much more talented than what this or that other program has and then we get our butts handed to us during the year.  Anyone predicting a record should take into account TJD's last season.  I'll be shocked if that isn't our ceiling.

There are people on Twitter who are already talking top ten team nationally next year based on guys they claim Woodson is going to land. Lots of these accounts suddenly seemed to appear towards the end of the year.

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[Home Jersey]

I'm sure everyone has seen Dan Hurley's clip after a tough loss to Villanova in his second year at UConn, where he said "You better get us now. You better get us now, because it's coming." On McAfee's show before the title game, they played the clip for him and asked how he knew. Hurley makes a comment about sometimes the fans just need to hear something from the Head Coach. Skip to 2:45 in the vid, that full response is worth a listen.

This past season could have been handled so differently by the staff... now we've got a deeply fractured fanbase and sucky basketball team... that trajectory is unlikely to change without major play style changes. Confidence in IUBB... interest in following the normal news cycle this offseason... financial and emotional investment in the program, personally, all on the decline, unfortunately. 

As @WayneFleekHoosier wisely put it the other day... shut up and win.

Full Quote: 

“Number one you’re the coach at UConn and the tradition and history is rich here. The fans, obviously, the expectation is you’re going to be amongst the best. We weren’t very good but we were starting to turn the corner. The culture was coming together, the talent was improving, we started getting pros in the program. You know (chuckles), ya gotta say something to your fan base at that point. Because we weren’t there yet and I think when you’re the coach of a big brand program you gotta have some swagger, some confidence, because people are going to be on your a$$ anyway.”

[Ghost of Rick Majerus]

Whatever happened with all those rumors about IU hiring a GM and changing up the staff? I guess that was just total nonsense?

And why haven't we hired Kenny Payne yet? :)

[LIHoosier]

4 minutes ago, Ghost of Rick Majerus said:

Whatever happened with all those rumors about IU hiring a GM and changing up the staff? I guess that was just total nonsense?

And why haven't we hired Kenny Payne yet? :)

Kenny's getting a disguise together to look like a student; some of the portal targets are gonna get more money than a GM or Chief of Staff would get.

[Chris007]

12 minutes ago, Ghost of Rick Majerus said:

Whatever happened with all those rumors about IU hiring a GM and changing up the staff? I guess that was just total nonsense?

And why haven't we hired Kenny Payne yet? :)

Mike Woodson doesn’t need no GM. He was in the NBA for 25 years. Kenny Payne can find his own job.

[AZ Hoosier]

25 minutes ago, Ghost of Rick Majerus said:

Whatever happened with all those rumors about IU hiring a GM and changing up the staff? I guess that was just total nonsense?

And why haven't we hired Kenny Payne yet? :)

It was all smoke and mirrors. Just like Matta and Fife. IMO, it was never was going to be something that Woodson would allow. He's busy doing his job.

[Hornsby]

It was all smoke and mirrors. Just like Matta and Fife. IMO, it was never was going to be something that Woodson would allow. He's busy doing his job.

Staff shakeup, new shooting coach, etc. Sounds like it was all smoke and mirrors.

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[Bankshot]

Mike Woodson… the college basketball version of “all hat, no cattle”.

All the attitude with none of the success.

[Chris007]

10 hours ago, Hornsby said:

Staff shakeup, new shooting coach, etc. Sounds like it was all smoke and mirrors.

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Has Todd Leary started working with the players on shooting yet? Didn't he say that if Woodson was brought back he was going to spend the summer at Cook Hall working with the players on FT shooting and 3pt

[Hoosier DaDa]

On 4/8/2024 at 11:19 PM, Hornsby said:

Amazing defense purdue shot four threes.

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Purdue shot 7 threes hitting only 1

[Feathery]

11 hours ago, Hornsby said:

Staff shakeup, new shooting coach, etc. Sounds like it was all smoke and mirrors.

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I was skeptical of the staff shakeup angle. Who would want to come here as an assistant if the entire staff could be out the door in a year? Always seemed more likely to me that the staff stayed intact and would try and fix the issues. 

[JSHoosier]

Kentucky fans wanted a new coach and will get one because Arkansas poached Cal. IU needs a new coach and is stuck because they refuse to fire a 2nd team AA from over 40 years ago and no one else would want him.

[Ryno6284]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

Has Todd Leary started working with the players on shooting yet? Didn't he say that if Woodson was brought back he was going to spend the summer at Cook Hall working with the players on FT shooting and 3pt

I think Todd said he would love to help with shooting, but Woody has never talked to him.

[DChoosier]

32 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

I think Todd said he would love to help with shooting, but Woody has never talked to him.

In a podcast with Coyle he mentioned offering to help with shooting but the staff wasn’t interested. Leary has said MM has by far the best stroke on the team and that it was apparent the very first time he saw MM take a single jumper. Called it perfect form.

Claimed he could have quickly helped Gunn and Cupps as they each have, according to Leary, minor, easy to fix issues with their shots.

[Ryno6284]

5 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

In a podcast with Coyle he mentioned offering to help with shooting but the staff wasn’t interested. Leary has said MM has by far the best stroke on the team and that it was apparent the very first time he saw MM take a single jumper. Called it perfect form.

Claimed he could have quickly helped Gunn and Cupps as they each have, according to Leary, minor, easy to fix issues with their shots.

Goes to show Woody’s elitist mentality! That is my biggest problem with him, be humble my man!

[go iu bb]

51 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Open up my MSN page today and see a story speculating on where Robbie Avila might go. Thinking it's a done deal that he's headed to SLU, just for fun -- I click on it.  It includes us, PU, Illinois and Wisconsin -- in addition to SLU. 

It was penned by someone named John Canady of SportsGrid (whatever that is). Anyway, this is what it said about IU ... 

Indiana Hoosiers©Provided by SportsGrid

Mike Woodson has done a great job in Indiana, building a more than competitive roster. With multiple talented prospects set to join the Hoosiers, the team may be on the verge of putting together a historic season. Adding a talent like Robbie Aliva would only help them do that. If the big man were to want to stay in Indiana, perhaps a step up in competition while staying local could be a good selling point.

 

Let's break this down. 
Mike Woodson has done a great job at Indiana. ... No
Building a more-than-competitive roster ... Depends on what that roster is for. If it's for intramurals, yes. It it's to compete in the upper half of the B1G and get an NCAA bid -- probably not. 
Multiple talented prospects set to join the Hoosiers ... Where? 
On the verge of a historic season ... Huh? 
 

Sorta makes you wonder how much research "reporters" from these fringe websites actually do -- and why what they write has to be taken with a grain of salt. 

I saw one on FB that made me laugh. It had SLU, of course, but also Duke, Tennessee, Illinois, and IU. 

Also, to your post, "a historic season" could include historically bad and being one of the first teams to miss the B1GT.

[Hornsby]

Has Todd Leary started working with the players on shooting yet? Didn't he say that if Woodson was brought back he was going to spend the summer at Cook Hall working with the players on FT shooting and 3pt

Yeah doesn't he own some shot school now? He went from being very critical of Woodson to basically singing his praises like overnight last year.

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