They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Golfman25]

55 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Not having a plan in place already makes me less confident in the leadership. One should have been crafted and put on the back burner before they returned from the Bahamas 

Nah.  There is always a plan, especially if a coach is on the hot seat.  Maybe this is the time Dolson officially shared it with others.  But I’ll bet it’s been talked about just in case.   

[Golfman25]

Don’t underestimate the “politics” here.  Frequently the powers that be will “leak” something to pressure the other side.  Would be very easy for Dolson to talk “loudly” about getting rid of Woodson and letting people run with it while, maintaining deniability.  

[Hornsby]

Anyone who thinks Woodson still doesn't have support go read the iu rivals board. Somebody criticized the game they went off on him. He still has his Kool aid followers and they are digging in now

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[coonhounds]

Anyone who thinks Woodson still doesn't have support go read the iu rivals board. Somebody criticized the game they went off on him. He still has his Kool aid followers and they are digging in now

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Lol no thanks. That is terrible

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[hoosierbannerd]

So 4 blowout losses in February triggers an interim for a matter of weeks?

Meh, sounds like they wanna wait till the end of the season.

Gonna just get uglier then.

sigh...

[IUrocker]

I just want this guy gone so bad. His demeanor/attitude just drives me nuts. Only thing I think he’s improved on past couple months or so is that he hasn’t referred to himself in the third person nearly as much, so good for him on that one. I’m sure it’s a downright fact that he’s done after this season, but I wish like heck it’d be sooner than that. Beating his chest and players saying I told you so because they barely beat not very good teams is ridiculous. After 4 years of the same crap and how he’s treated fans/media, does he really deserve to limp through the rest of the season just so he can tell everyone he did his job? 

I don’t like it when we lose, but to be honest, this morning I was kinda mad that we won last night. He’s gonna get to insist he’s doing his job and that the results were the best that could have happened. NO, THEY WERE NOT. I’m sorry, but here’s to hoping I’d rather see us lose to Northwestern by 20 than to beat them by 3 and have Woody throw his hands in the air like we just knocked off a top 5 team. 
Trying to convince myself to just relax and let him ride out the season if he’ll just be gone anyways…I’m just over it, ha. 

[OKHOOSIER]

3 minutes ago, IUrocker said:

I just want this guy gone so bad. His demeanor/attitude just drives me nuts. Only thing I think he’s improved on past couple months or so is that he hasn’t referred to himself in the third person nearly as much, so good for him on that one. I’m sure it’s a downright fact that he’s done after this season, but I wish like heck it’d be sooner than that. Beating his chest and players saying I told you so because they barely beat not very good teams is ridiculous. After 4 years of the same crap and how he’s treated fans/media, does he really deserve to limp through the rest of the season just so he can tell everyone he did his job? 

I don’t like it when we lose, but to be honest, this morning I was kinda made that we won last night. He’s gonna get to insist he’s doing his job and that the results were the best that could have happened. NO, THEY WERE NOT. I’m sorry, but here’s to hoping I’d rather see us lose to Northwestern by 20 than to beat them by 3 and have Woody throw his hands in the air like we just knocked off a top 5 team. 
Trying to convince myself to just relax and let him ride out the season if he’ll just be gone anyways…I’m just over it, ha. 

I’ll probably get roasted for this take, but here goes. There is a small part of me that actually feels bad for Woody sometimes. I don’t like seeing him look lost and generally miserable. Him acting like we just made the final four after beating  that Ohio State team in that fashion was just sad to me. It was admittedly hilarious, but sad. The state of our program is just sad. It’s sad we got here. It’s sad two Hoosier legends have completely tarnished their legacies in the eyes of a not insignificant number of fans and alumni. I say that to say, I agree with you, I just want us to definitively turn the page. Fired, retiring at end of season it matters not to me. I don’t wanna watch him stand there when students start chanting for Dusty if they’ve done nothing by that game. Sorry for the rant, I’m just over it too. 

[Bowhunter]

1 hour ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

So, word I’ve gotten today from someone very close to the situation is “eerily quiet” today. I think the plans are finalized and ready. But Dolson and Co. are being very intentional about optics and want it to go down when the timing is right so that it doesn’t crate red flags in the media and coaching world. I’d say 30% chance a bad loss at NW does it, but a 60% chance blowout losses in Feb. to Purdue, Wiscy, Mich, Mich St. will be the need for the mid-season plan. 

That’s just common sense. No way is administration firing him mid season with a winning record. That just makes them look worse for not firing him after last season. It will be at the end of the season , unless it gets too ugly!

[MikeRoberts]

24 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Nah.  There is always a plan, especially if a coach is on the hot seat.  Maybe this is the time Dolson officially shared it with others.  But I’ll bet it’s been talked about just in case.   

Perhaps. As another poster mentioned, if a mid season move were to be made you do it right after the second back to back 25 point blowouts where your own fans chanted to fire you and filed out early. “If” a plan was already in place they could have moved swiftly right after that game and it would be done with.

 

now instead we have an even bigger mess as you don’t do it after a conference road win and we’re in jeopardy of bringing him back into the hall and getting bood again on national television.

[RaceToTheTop]

52 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I think it’s generally fair to toss out Crean’s first season of walk ons. I’m guessing that was the methodology when he made the list. Comparing those to any of the other losses isn’t really fair to Crean or the players he had IMO

I know there is context, just saying that the list isn't accurate.  I only looked at one season that wasn't mentioned and a game under Woodson that wasn't.  I'm quite sure there are others that aren't on the list.

Edit:  In 2009-10, Crean's second year, IU had 32 and 28 point losses.  So that would move all of Woodson's worst margins out except the 29 point loss to St. Mary's and I'm sure the chart is missing some other games since I've easily found quite a few.  It doesn't make Woodson any better than he is, just saying that the 25 point back to back losses are horrible regardless of them not being in the top ten.

[IUFAN1976]

25 minutes ago, IUrocker said:

I just want this guy gone so bad. His demeanor/attitude just drives me nuts. Only thing I think he’s improved on past couple months or so is that he hasn’t referred to himself in the third person nearly as much, so good for him on that one. I’m sure it’s a downright fact that he’s done after this season, but I wish like heck it’d be sooner than that. Beating his chest and players saying I told you so because they barely beat not very good teams is ridiculous. After 4 years of the same crap and how he’s treated fans/media, does he really deserve to limp through the rest of the season just so he can tell everyone he did his job? 

I don’t like it when we lose, but to be honest, this morning I was kinda mad that we won last night. He’s gonna get to insist he’s doing his job and that the results were the best that could have happened. NO, THEY WERE NOT. I’m sorry, but here’s to hoping I’d rather see us lose to Northwestern by 20 than to beat them by 3 and have Woody throw his hands in the air like we just knocked off a top 5 team. 
Trying to convince myself to just relax and let him ride out the season if he’ll just be gone anyways…I’m just over it, ha. 

I think we all on this thread want him gone!  I wanted him gone the day before yesterday but here we are.  He has made a laughing stock of our basketball program and the university, but I also blame the university too and yet here we are!  The university will drag this out because they think it is bad optic but they will allow this to drag until things get much worse!  Honestly, they pretty much stated what they are all about when they didn’t do anything last year, but he did his job and the called out fans for not being true fans which was probably why the fans did what they did at the Illinois game and yet here we are!  
 

FIRE MIKE WOODSON IMMEDIATELY!!!

[go iu bb]

31 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I know there is context, just saying that the list isn't accurate.  I only looked at one season that wasn't mentioned and a game under Woodson that wasn't.  I'm quite sure there are others that aren't on the list.

Edit:  In 2009-10, Crean's second year, IU had 32 and 28 point losses.  So that would move all of Woodson's worst margins out except the 29 point loss to St. Mary's and I'm sure the chart is missing some other games since I've easily found quite a few.  It doesn't make Woodson any better than he is, just saying that the 25 point back to back losses are horrible regardless of them not being in the top ten.

Why do you want to keep Woodson!? 

[Hornsby]

I just want this guy gone so bad. His demeanor/attitude just drives me nuts. Only thing I think he’s improved on past couple months or so is that he hasn’t referred to himself in the third person nearly as much, so good for him on that one. I’m sure it’s a downright fact that he’s done after this season, but I wish like heck it’d be sooner than that. Beating his chest and players saying I told you so because they barely beat not very good teams is ridiculous. After 4 years of the same crap and how he’s treated fans/media, does he really deserve to limp through the rest of the season just so he can tell everyone he did his job? 

I don’t like it when we lose, but to be honest, this morning I was kinda mad that we won last night. He’s gonna get to insist he’s doing his job and that the results were the best that could have happened. NO, THEY WERE NOT. I’m sorry, but here’s to hoping I’d rather see us lose to Northwestern by 20 than to beat them by 3 and have Woody throw his hands in the air like we just knocked off a top 5 team. 
Trying to convince myself to just relax and let him ride out the season if he’ll just be gone anyways…I’m just over it, ha. 

The problem is at this point the more we win the more we to listen to him say he is doing his job, etc. He is so arrogant and so full of himself it's just beyond nauseous at this point. Other than winning a national title there is nothing he could do to win me back. I am just done with him

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[Hornsby]

Perhaps. As another poster mentioned, if a mid season move were to be made you do it right after the second back to back 25 point blowouts where your own fans chanted to fire you and filed out early. “If” a plan was already in place they could have moved swiftly right after that game and it would be done with.
 
now instead we have an even bigger mess as you don’t do it after a conference road win and we’re in jeopardy of bringing him back into the hall and getting bood again on national television.

Yep should have moved after illinois. The timing was right. Now they are giving him a chance to beat a few bad teams and save himself at least for a few more weeks.

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[LamarCheeks]

1 hour ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Updated list




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This list isn't accurate. 

I was at IU in 1990 and we didn't lose 110-79 that season to Purdue. And the 103-74 loss to MSU was in 2008 -- that falls under Dakich, who had taken over for Sampson. We also did not lose 96-73 to Iowa in 1998. 


 

[12345Brad]

12 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Yep should have moved after illinois. The timing was right. Now they are giving him a chance to beat a few bad teams and save himself at least for a few more weeks.

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If they get buried at NW, it’ll get interesting.  Very tough stretch after that. 

[HoosierInParadise]

It's been said they could fire him tomorrow or Monday...call me crazy, but I'll remain hopeful for that scenario. It's the only solution that doesn't annoy the crap out of me....

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, MikeRoberts said:

Perhaps. As another poster mentioned, if a mid season move were to be made you do it right after the second back to back 25 point blowouts where your own fans chanted to fire you and filed out early. “If” a plan was already in place they could have moved swiftly right after that game and it would be done with.

 

now instead we have an even bigger mess as you don’t do it after a conference road win and we’re in jeopardy of bringing him back into the hall and getting bood again on national television.

Certainly was the time to move.  But my money says Quinn and Co. blocked it. Or the suggestion was made to Mediocre Mike to announce an end of season retirement and he refused, or took it under advisement.  

[Golfman25]

14 minutes ago, 12345Brad said:

If they get buried at NW, it’ll get interesting.  Very tough stretch after that. 

NW is struggling.  What I earlier assumed would be an on the road loss, looks like a possible win.  Allows a couple of home losses and still maintain a .500 big10 record.  

[Hornsby]

Certainly was the time to move.  But my money says Quinn and Co. blocked it. Or the suggestion was made to Mediocre Mike to announce an end of season retirement and he refused, or took it under advisement.  

Yep I think quinn still has way more pull than people think. We thought he was gone last year. Instead we were told to chill and run it back.

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