They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Napleshoosier]

Time to pump some ivermectin in this program!

[Pagoda]

3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

We’ve reached the “players are tweeting at Dakich” point of the season. Luke Goode should probably just stay away from social media..

 

This is grim.

[KathywithaC]

Just now, Napleshoosier said:

Look what else it’s produced!

So you understand why it’s not a “process” issue! Congratulations - you’re in the minority.

[OldBuddy67]

3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

We’ve reached the “players are tweeting at Dakich” point of the season. Luke Goode should probably just stay away from social media..

Dumb move on his part! Dakich knows. IDC how good of a player he was or interim coach at IU, he is spot on with takes!

[68Hoosier]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Let the season play out?
Sure; maybe we will do that.

Make a decision based on the results to date and the long term benefit of the program?!!?

Good lord; unless you’re talking about who the replacement will be, it’s way way WAY past the time for that.

The verdict is in. The jury has spoken. The evidence is irrefutable, extensive, and complete, and the results of the Mike Woodson era are that it will not continue beyond, at most, the end of the season.

 

The verdict was out last year.  he must have appealed to a higher court, LOL

[Muskie plays the four]

4 hours ago, maharkn said:

I think I would take the risk and hire Will Wade

USPS agrees 

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, KathywithaC said:

What “long-thought-out-decisions” are you referring to? You seem to think this is a recent issue with IU, and it’s far from that. But it’s not the process, it’s the leadership. If you have insight into IU, this isn’t revelatory. 

I think people would be more inclined to sign on to these esoteric posts if you were straightforward enough to also agree with and clearly state the obvious; that Mike Woodson has been a failure as the head coach and that he will be replaced very soon, at the latest at the end of this season.

[Golfman25]

29 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

Neither of those interim solutions worked well for us. Look at the landscape of college and pro sports and provide examples of interim coaches, appointed after a coach was fired for performance, succeeded. Ed Orgeron was hired at USC after Pat Haden blew out Lane Kiffin, but his tenure there was short-lived. Temporary fixes are just that - it’s baling wire and duct tape. 

Dude, that is the very definition of Interim.  

[PartyintheVillas]

Just now, OldBuddy67 said:

Dumb move on his part! Dakich knows. IDC how good of a player he was or interim coach at IU, he is spot on with takes!

Dakich might be accurate with this take, but he is also wildly inaccurate, and agenda driven for many others. It's 9 o'clock twice a day no matter what.

[PartyintheVillas]

1 minute ago, Muskie plays the four said:

USPS agrees 

We need to make him a strong @$$ offer

[Mr. Hoosier Pride]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

I think people would be more inclined to sign on to these esoteric posts if you were straightforward enough to also agree with and clearly state the obvious; that Mike Woodson has been a failure as the head coach and that he will be replaced very soon, at the latest at the end of this season.

whoa whoa whoa....a bit of a knee jerk emotional reaction, don't you think?

[KathywithaC]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

I think people would be more inclined to sign on to these esoteric posts if you were straightforward enough to also agree with and clearly state the obvious; that Mike Woodson has been a failure as the head coach and that he will be replaced very soon, at the latest at the end of this season.

Already said he should be replaced at the end of the season unless we make a dramatic turnaround, which is highly unlikely. So, asked and answered.

[Golfman25]

30 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

I don't know who, but it's clear some people in the program have started an anti-fanbase sentiment that has spread quite a bit the past year and half.  We see it with Kathy, but also Woody (true fans), some of the players (y'all need to chill), Tyme, SDB, and a few other posters with some program connection on various boards

Interestingly, as you note, the fans are one of the best things IUBB still has going for it... that and NIL.  

IUBB has been a mess for a long time, but this is a new low.  This program is so incapable of taking responsibility they'll even point fingers at the fans... the fans that are somehow, after 25 years of terrible basketball, still caring, donating, and cheering for any sort of reasonable effort.

My old boss had a saying -- "Business would be great without customers."  You get rid of the fans and there are no expectations.  

[steubenhoosier]

22 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

Name you best interim coaches (Eddie O got fired by LSU - oops, since he wasn’t a qualified HC).

Steve Fischer won a national championship after Michigan let Frieder go. Even the guy last year at Ohio St. did a very good job.

[Golfman25]

31 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

QB cares deeply about the University and the basketball program. Disagree with him all you want, but the “he doesn’t care” stuff is ridiculous, with all due respect.

If he "cared" as you say, why wouldn't he do everything he could to get a competent coach in place?  Instead he forces his unqualified buddy on us.  Please, we may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.  

[tyappleg]

10 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

We’ve reached the “players are tweeting at Dakich” point of the season. Luke Goode should probably just stay away from social media..

Things are fine!

[KathywithaC]

8 minutes ago, PartyintheVillas said:

Now, here come the outright lies. Bob Knight was hired before any current processes and people were put into place. Also, a single data point is not conclusive evidence. Citing Bob Knight is an appeal to emotion in this argument.

By saying that the process is the same that hired Bob Knight, you have completely outed yourself as not an insider. You are another anonymous internet troll with opinions and agendas.

No, the Bob Knight hire was a team effort (Bill Orwig and John Ryan, primarily, with the assistance of a few other key people, all of whom are no longer with us). Quite clear you don’t have the slightest idea about that or this situation.

[PartyintheVillas]

Just now, Golfman25 said:

If he "cared" as you say, why wouldn't he do everything he could to get a competent coach in place?  Instead he forces his unqualified buddy on us.  Please, we may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.  

Right?! No one here is brand new.

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, KathywithaC said:

Already said he should be replaced at the end of the season unless we make a dramatic turnaround, which is highly unlikely. So, asked and answered.

Because that is really the heart of the matter— Cig proved that all of the damaged process is irrelevant when the right guy is running the show.

Sorry—missed your agreed-upon conclusion amongst so much other splaining and splaining and splaining.

 

[Mr. Hoosier Pride]

Just now, KathywithaC said:

Already said he should be replaced at the end of the season unless we make a dramatic turnaround, which is highly unlikely. So, asked and answered.

what is the well thought out, results based decision on the benefit(s) of keeping Mike through the end of the season vs. firing immediately? compare and contrast those benefits with the benefits listed for getting rid of him now. be thorough in your response, i'm quite interested in why it's such an awful idea to get the cancer out now vs. let it eat away at the program another few months.....