They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

1 hour ago, bird4par said:

Mike " Bigfoot" Woodson, all the high school & aau coaches have heard about Mike Woodson, they just never see Mike Woodson.  LMFAO

Oh, you mean he's similar to the abominable snowman or Loch Ness monster?

[spe317]

1 minute ago, ap2345 said:

They are doing what Woodson wants on defense. It's not changing. 

That merits a *womp womp* sound. 

[JSHoosier]

Just now, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Oh, you mean he's similar to the abominable snowman or Loch Ness monster?

Yep. Some say his coaching exists but there's no real evidence.

[hoosierbannerd]

So Kathy or any other supposed insider...I know for awhile after RMK, the apparent thought was no basketball coach "bigger than the program".. is that still a prevalent thought within IU admin or the Athletic Department?

[KathywithaC]

40 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Don’t worry, Dolson won’t do a mid-season termination because he doesn’t have a big enough pair!  Like KathywithaC a said in one her post, he will wait. I also find it weird that KathywithaC hasn’t posted for awhile and shows up after we all listened to the Hoosier Hysterics podcast.  I apologize if I am being a little too much of a conspiracy theorist!  Just weird!

He has a “pair”, he just doesn’t use them without a good reason. What did the HH guys have to say? It’s hard to not roll your eyes when thinking of them. They’re big fans but they constantly make people in the AD nervous.

[JSHoosier]

10 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

They are doing what Woodson wants on defense. It's not changing. 

Why guard the 3, it wasn't a point of emphasis when he played.

[KathywithaC]

2 minutes ago, hoosierbannerd said:

So Kathy or any other supposed insider...I know for awhile after RMK, the apparent thought was no basketball coach "bigger than the program".. is that still a prevalent thought within IU admin or the Athletic Department?

I’ve never once heard anyone express a concern about that. 

[Aaron]

3 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Those of you who don't think Dolson doesn't have Woody's exit on his radar are selling him way too short.  IMO getting Woody out has been on his radar for well over a year but he's been hamstrung by Woody's fairy godfathers.  Also, as much as the vast majority of us want him gone, the optics of a mid-season firing wouldn't be a good look for IU barring some kind of public/legal transgression.    Now, should Woody develop some 'health issue' and resign, that would be totally acceptable.  Dolson got us one helluva football coach and I'm highly confident he's already got a list for our next bball coach and he's checking it twice.

Bottom line is Dolson needs to be able to find his man and Buckner get out of way.

Also do NOT want a midseason firing as do not want any chance an interim is considered for permanent role like happened with OSU last year or Mike Davis. For those who want this done now consider this and be careful what you wish for.

After season, 100% get Woodson out of here and let Dolson find his man.

[Stuhoo]

The Hoosier Hysterics are dishing in a major major way from the vantage point of the access they used to have. Like them or hate them, I don't think the hate has been based on them being liars. And they are firing away with all cannons. Brian Evans is teeing it up for them to pile on.

Some highlights (lowlights?) re what they say about Woody?

• Woody had nothing against Matta personally, but shut him out of staff meetings
• Woody has banned players and staff from talking to the Hoosier Hysterics, but players and staff talk to them anyway
• Woody has a complete dis-interest in recruiting. Nickname among high school and AAU coaches? "Bigfoot" - known but never seen.
• Woody and Ya had an actual, legit fistfight during which Woody called Ya a 'beeyotch' as they were separated during a staff meeting.
• Woody had to ask Mark Adams what Flory/Kory Bidunga's name was during the one and only meeting Woody had with Adams about Bidunga.
• When Woody goes to football games he sits in a sky box, never with basketball recruits.
• Woody had a boys club cigar and wine outing when he also had a portal recruit dinner scheduled - Woody told the attendees he would have to leave at 7:00. When it was 7:00 they were having tons of fun. Woody told all that the recruit didn't make it to town and they ordered pizza. The Hysterics soon thereafter found out that the recruit was in town all along and ate dinner without Woody attending.

Whoooooo boy.

[IUFAN1976]

30 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

More likely? We won't do a mid-season replacement because if this season is broken, making Kenya or Calbert interim coach won't 'unbreak' it. 

I agree!  I still like my original plan better!  

[hoosierbannerd]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

The Hoosier Hysterics are dishing in a major major way from the vantage point of the access they used to have. Like them or hate them, I don't think the hate has been based on them being liars. And they are firing away with all cannons. Brian Evans is teeing it up for them to pile on.

Some highlights (lowlights?) re what they say about Woody?

• Woody had nothing against Matta personally, but shut him out of staff meetings
• Woody has banned players and staff from talking to the Hoosier Hysterics, but players and staff talk to them anyway
• Woody has a complete dis-interest in recruiting
• Woody and Ya had an actual, legit fistfight during which Woody called Ya a '*****' as they were separated during staff meetings.
• Woody had to ask Mark Adams what Flory/Kory Bidunga's name was during the one and only meeting Woody had with Adams about Bidunga.
• When Woody goes to football games he sits in a sky box, never with basketball recruits.
• Woody had a boys club cigar and wine outing when he also had a portal recruit dinner scheduled - Woody told the attendees he would have to leave at 7:00. When it was 7:00 they were having tons of fun. Woody told all that the recruit didn't make it to town and they ordered pizza. The Hysterics soon thereafter found out that the recruit was in town all along and ate dinner without Woody attending.

Whoooooo boy.

Point 5 re: Flory- I was literally outside Memorial Gym in Kokomo during the visit... Woodson was clueless and those observing thought there may be "mental issues" going on.

[AZ Hoosier]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

The Hoosier Hysterics are dishing in a major major way from the vantage point of the access they used to have. Like them or hate them, I don't think the hate has been based on them being liars. And they are firing away with all cannons. Brian Evans is teeing it up for them to pile on.

Some highlights (lowlights?) re what they say about Woody?

• Woody had nothing against Matta personally, but shut him out of staff meetings
• Woody has banned players and staff from talking to the Hoosier Hysterics, but players and staff talk to them anyway
• Woody has a complete dis-interest in recruiting. Nickname among high school and AAU coaches? Bigfoot - know of but never seen.
• Woody and Ya had an actual, legit fistfight during which Woody called Ya a '*****' as they were separated during a staff meeting.
• Woody had to ask Mark Adams what Flory/Kory Bidunga's name was during the one and only meeting Woody had with Adams about Bidunga.
• When Woody goes to football games he sits in a sky box, never with basketball recruits.
• Woody had a boys club cigar and wine outing when he also had a portal recruit dinner scheduled - Woody told the attendees he would have to leave at 7:00. When it was 7:00 they were having tons of fun. Woody told all that the recruit didn't make it to town and they ordered pizza. The Hysterics soon thereafter found out that the recruit was in town all along and ate dinner without Woody attending.

Whoooooo boy.

This goes a long way towards defining Woodson's (lack of) character - petty, self-absorbed, egotistical, lazy, arrogant. And despite not doing his job, he's enriching himself off of the university that gave him an opportunity when he was a youngster. Shameful.

[AZ Hoosier]

38 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

More likely? We won't do a mid-season replacement because if this season is broken, making Kenya or Calbert interim coach won't 'unbreak' it. 

It may not "unbreak" it, but it will certainly send the message that Dolson and Indiana are serious about ending this crap-fest and righting the ship... optics be damned, it's the right thing to do. Period.

[IUFAN1976]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

The Hoosier Hysterics are dishing in a major major way from the vantage point of the access they used to have. Like them or hate them, I don't think the hate has been based on them being liars. And they are firing away with all cannons. Brian Evans is teeing it up for them to pile on.

Some highlights (lowlights?) re what they say about Woody?

• Woody had nothing against Matta personally, but shut him out of staff meetings
• Woody has banned players and staff from talking to the Hoosier Hysterics, but players and staff talk to them anyway
• Woody has a complete dis-interest in recruiting
• Woody and Ya had an actual, legit fistfight during which Woody called Ya a '*****' as they were separated during a staff meeting.
• Woody had to ask Mark Adams what Flory/Kory Bidunga's name was during the one and only meeting Woody had with Adams about Bidunga.
• When Woody goes to football games he sits in a sky box, never with basketball recruits.
• Woody had a boys club cigar and wine outing when he also had a portal recruit dinner scheduled - Woody told the attendees he would have to leave at 7:00. When it was 7:00 they were having tons of fun. Woody told all that the recruit didn't make it to town and they ordered pizza. The Hysterics soon thereafter found out that the recruit was in town all along and ate dinner without Woody attending.

Whoooooo boy.

You forgot the most important point made in the podcast, NEPOTISM!!!  
 

NEPOTISM!!!  this reigns throughout the entire program and everyone close to MW has their hand in the cookie jar and they are all getting fat, dumb and rich at all of our expense!

[AKHoosier]

11 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

The Hoosier Hysterics are dishing in a major major way from the vantage point of the access they used to have. Like them or hate them, I don't think the hate has been based on them being liars. And they are firing away with all cannons. Brian Evans is teeing it up for them to pile on.

Some highlights (lowlights?) re what they say about Woody?

• Woody had nothing against Matta personally, but shut him out of staff meetings
• Woody has banned players and staff from talking to the Hoosier Hysterics, but players and staff talk to them anyway
• Woody has a complete dis-interest in recruiting. Nickname among high school and AAU coaches? Bigfoot - know of but never seen.
• Woody and Ya had an actual, legit fistfight during which Woody called Ya a '*****' as they were separated during a staff meeting.
• Woody had to ask Mark Adams what Flory/Kory Bidunga's name was during the one and only meeting Woody had with Adams about Bidunga.
• When Woody goes to football games he sits in a sky box, never with basketball recruits.
• Woody had a boys club cigar and wine outing when he also had a portal recruit dinner scheduled - Woody told the attendees he would have to leave at 7:00. When it was 7:00 they were having tons of fun. Woody told all that the recruit didn't make it to town and they ordered pizza. The Hysterics soon thereafter found out that the recruit was in town all along and ate dinner without Woody attending.

Whoooooo boy.

I would love to know who the portal recruit was. I assume they didn't specify. 

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, IUFAN1976 said:

You forgot the most important point made in the podcast, NEPOTISM!!!  
 

NEPOTISM!!!  this reigns throughout the entire program and everyone close to MW has their hand in the cookie jar and they are all getting fat, dumb and rich at all of our expense!

I didn't think that was much of a revelation. Woody was hired in large part because he knew people? That was part of the calculation from the start and didn't prevent him from succeeding.

[IUFAN1976]

7 minutes ago, hoosierbannerd said:

Point 5 re: Flory- I was literally outside Memorial Gym in Kokomo during the visit... Woodson was clueless and those observing thought there may be "mental issues" going on.

There are issues alright but he’s and QB are the mastermind behind their elaborate Ponzi scheme to swindle millions of dollars from the university!

[KathywithaC]

3 minutes ago, hoosierbannerd said:

Point 5 re: Flory- I was literally outside Memorial Gym in Kokomo during the visit... Woodson was clueless and those observing thought there may be "mental issues" going on.

For people who want to know what has the attention of people like Dolson, you’re getting warmer. There are a couple of other things out there that follow along this same topic that have been brought to Scott’s attention. With all of that, the HH guys are often concerning to people in the AD, and the decision to keep them away from the basketball program was very much supported by the AD. They may try to suggest otherwise, but they would be wrong.

[KathywithaC]

7 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

It may not "unbreak" it, but it will certainly send the message that Dolson and Indiana are serious about ending this crap-fest and righting the ship... optics be damned, it's the right thing to do. Period.

Send it to the players? In the era of NIL, do you think that message only gets to them if you fire the coach they came to play for? Do you think it will make them play better? Be more dedicated? Have more loyalty? Or will this just be something that makes some fans feel better because we’re doing “something”? Remember, we had a football coach win three conference games in three years and we still waited until the season ended to fire him.

[IUFAN1976]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

I didn't think that was much of a revelation. Woody was hired in large part because he knew people? That was part of the calculation from the start and didn't prevent him from succeeding.

But that was the concerning issue they all stated was their biggest concerns, especially Evans!  It was the fact that Nepotism got him hired and he’s used it to help others get profit!  It’s the fact that it’s the biggest issue and the biggest hurdle to get rid of him!