They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[jbeaman9 1,089]

10 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Sorry if this is old news. I went back a few pages. IDS is claiming they met with the team last night and no responsibilities will change as of now.

https://x.com/ZachOsterman/status/1887900785054278122

[OKHOOSIER 4,042]

3 minutes ago, PartyintheVillas said:

Let him "control the narrative" in this way. Ultimately, it's a short term PR issue that fades away by the start of next season at the latest. It does no lasting damage to the university or program. He's out at the end of the season, and then he can go do and say whatever he wants, but he will fade into relative obscurity, and his coaching career at Indiana will be remembered for the record and results, not the way he went out. The leadership and decision makers at IU just need to stay professional and on course. Mike Woodson failed with on the court results in black and white, that will speak for itself.

I do have some small defense for Woodson that I believe he is receiving racist and threatening messages. Unfortunately, we do have that dark corner of our fanbase, like many other fanbases. However, there is no credible threat IMO, just really bad people able to talk nonsense digitally without the threat of being punched in the face for being shity racists. 

On this we agree, but not because he’s a bad coach. Southern Indiana (and much of the state whether anyone wants to acknowledge it) is not some bastion of racial inclusion. And in many areas much worse than places I’ve lived in the Deep South. It’s sad, but it’s reality. 
 

[realTomCrean 1,756]

12 hours ago, Trish said:

What’s better than coming home to your family and your childhood state? 

It’s Indiana. It’s Indiana. 

™️ 

[Dave from Dayton 3,511]

1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

I don't believe that. Where are these racist threats you speak of? Do you have proof?

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[PartyintheVillas 359]

3 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

Anyone sending racist or threatening messages to a coach is an absolute incel idiot. 

That being said, show me a losing coach at a major athletic program anywhere that doesnt get wingnut messages of a threatening nature from lunatic fans? It comes with the job. 

Yep that was my point. It still doesn't make it right, and we should all still condemn it. Receiving those messages, as non-threatening as they may actually turn out to be, is not something anyone deserves. Call him a terrible basketball coach, call him lazy, call him old, call him aloof, but yes I have personally heard people say that Indiana U needs to stop hiring n-word coaches, and a simple search on x can find others.

[Brass Cannon 25,148]

Letting him ride out the year is just further proof we don’t have standards and terrifies me for the next hire. 
 

 

[Hoosierfanyuh 3,085]

Admin did take a calculated risk to do this all now right before the UM game.

[Trish 12,249]

2 minutes ago, moyemayhem said:

Maybe they should chant "We can do better than Dusty."

Stevens is options 1-3.

Anything outside of that, we're canceling the program and funding football. Football school! 

[bodsbums 182]

At this point, the only thing that matters to me is allowing Dolson to get on with his job and getting a replacement lined up ASAP. Personally, I feel no need to rehash the Woody era. I have already stated my preference for him to be removed immediately, but I don’t know that it really matters that much. 
The portal will open up quickly, and the new coach needs to be in place to do adequate portal evaluation and current player evaluation as it surely seems we will be replacing nearly our entire roster. Personally, there are very few players that I have any interest in returning, but the new coach might feel differently, and I am open to giving guys a second chance with proper coaching in a better system.

[Mr. Hoosier Pride 812]

Osterman has a Hot Board 1.0 .... something tells me Zach may frequent BTB

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[Alford Bailey 12,518]

Best if Woodson does finish the season. I want no part of an interim guy getting hot. Still gives Dolson a great start on the new guy.

[Home Jersey 10,659]

Just now, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Admin did take a calculated risk to do this all now right before the UM game.

IMO only - admin did the smart thing and wanted to remove him before the UM game. Mike and Quinn couldn’t stand for that so they blew up that plan as one last F U to Dolson before Woodson is ousted. He deserves to be booed from the minute he walks in Assembly Hall til the minute he walks out. 

[Hornsby 2,858]

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Either way I don't believe it. How many times have we seen this claimed in real life and later find out it was made up. Without proof I'm not buying it. Woodson is going to make himself a victim in all of this imo.

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[OKHOOSIER 4,042]

1 minute ago, bodsbums said:

At this point, the only thing that matters to me is allowing Dolson to get on with his job and getting a replacement lined up ASAP. Personally, I feel no need to rehash the Woody era. I have already stated my preference for him to be removed immediately, but I don’t know that it really matters that much. 
The portal will open up quickly, and the new coach needs to be in place to do adequate portal evaluation and current player evaluation as it surely seems we will be replacing nearly our entire roster. Personally, there are very few players that I have any interest in returning, but the new coach might feel differently, and I am open to giving guys a second chance with proper coaching in a better system.

I’d take anyone who wants to stay honestly. Assuming of course we land a competent coach. Rice, in particular, but really all of them have been misused in an unforgivable fashion. Rice would be a top-5 PG in a tempo offense that spreads out the court. Even Ballo who benefits from this system offensively, is pulled way too far out on defense and in the screen and roll game. I’m convinced there is a good team here and would love to see what a good coach could do with it. 

[Home Jersey 10,659]

4 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Letting him ride out the year is just further proof we don’t have standards and terrifies me for the next hire. 
 

 

Brother, the way I see it, is this is just further proof of Quinn letting everyone know he is The Man and you’re not going to play with him in the slightest. Even if he is on his way out. Scumbag! 

[tyappleg 4,049]

I'll preface this by saying I want him out of the program today.  But I do think from an optics perspective for possible future coaches, it does make the program look better to let him have his retirement.

EDIT: but if they go out and lose by 20+ to Michigan on Saturday and the students are chanting for Dusty May, those positive optics go out the window.

[Brass Cannon 25,148]

1 minute ago, tyappleg said:

I'll preface this by saying I want him out of the program today.  But I do think from an optics perspective for possible future coaches, it does make the program look better to let him have his retirement.

If our next coaches is afraid that he might get fired after failing miserably for just shy of 4 years then I don’t think he’s the right guy

[Artie86 2,482]

8 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I’d take anyone who wants to stay honestly. Assuming of course we land a competent coach. Rice, in particular, but really all of them have been misused in an unforgivable fashion. Rice would be a top-5 PG in a tempo offense that spreads out the court. Even Ballo who benefits from this system offensively, is pulled way too far out on defense and in the screen and roll game. I’m convinced there is a good team here and would love to see what a good coach could do with it. 

....great post. I feel the same way. I really feel a number of these players are plain, old spoiled brats that don't respect their coach and have been allowed to carry on without being held accountable.

If a player wants to stay, especially if it's a successful and highly respected coach he might just want to stay because he finally can be coached and managed by a good coach. jmo

[Hoosier DaDa 3,236]

18 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

huh? lol.... because Brad Stevens would ensure those 3 types of kids aren't playing for Purdue and playing for Indiana. what are you talking about? 

I'm agreeing with him. 

My bad misunderstood your post. 

[AZ Hoosier 8,599]

23 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Sorry if this is old news. I went back a few pages. IDS is claiming they met with the team last night and no responsibilities will change as of now.

Well, if this is "new news", then tomorrow should be interesting for all parties concerned...